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Post by The Madrid One Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:26 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:
The Madrid One wrote:the more i read threads the more i understand that higuain WILL BE OUR MAIN STRIKER for years...

No prblema. so long as Benzema can play next to him.
if neymar comes, and with kaka being liked by mou as much as he is, how would that ever happen..

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:59 pm

Btw, Raul is my kind of striker...impacts the game with skill and from many different positions. Not busting on his goalscoring at all. Just saying that he wasn't a box player. He could play there of course and has the goals to show for it... But he was at his best when he was slightly withdrawn and attacking from just outside the box.

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Post by Le Samourai Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:05 pm

sportsczy wrote:Btw, Raul is my kind of striker...impacts the game with skill and from many different positions. Not busting on his goalscoring at all. Just saying that he wasn't a box player. He could play there of course and has the goals to show for it... But he was at his best when he was slightly withdrawn and attacking from just outside the box.

Cool bro I feel the same way , I was just a bit disturbed by the volume shooter comment.Raul rarely took more than 100 shots a season.By contrast a real volume shooter Cristiano took almost 400.
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Post by Guest Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:11 pm

Most of the better strikers go for 125 shots a season at 20 percent efficiency. That's 25 goals. 400 shots is just ridiculous.

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Post by Le Samourai Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:14 pm

Actually TBF he only took about 325 for Real Madrid Laughing
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Post by Giovanni10 Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:39 pm

so... based on the combined stats: Higuain > Raul :coffee:

Suspect

I know I fall into the same category but its not like Higuain will have any sort of a chance against Raul as far as comparisons go.

We are just far to sentimental about Raul- he deserves it though. It wasn't just the goals or even the extra play-making ability. It was more than that, it was the passion, the leadership, breaking himself for the cause- remember that famous cut on the eye? Raul was a warrior.

The great thing about Higuain, is he is starting to show those same traits- he truly gives is all for the club.. we've seen it before, when even as a kid he was stepping off the bench time and again to net the crucial winners for past liga campaigns.

I think Higuain may be considered as special as Raul one day if he sees out his career here.

Quick question: How many of Raul's league appearances in that time period were off the bench as opposed to Higuain?
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:53 pm

Giovanni10 wrote:so... based on the combined stats: Higuain > Raul :coffee:

Suspect

I know I fall into the same category but its not like Higuain will have any sort of a chance against Raul as far as comparisons go.

We are just far to sentimental about Raul- he deserves it though. It wasn't just the goals or even the extra play-making ability. It was more than that, it was the passion, the leadership, breaking himself for the cause- remember that famous cut on the eye? Raul was a warrior.

The great thing about Higuain, is he is starting to show those same traits- he truly gives is all for the club.. we've seen it before, when even as a kid he was stepping off the bench time and again to net the crucial winners for past liga campaigns.

I think Higuain may be considered as special as Raul one day if he sees out his career here.

Quick question: How many of Raul's league appearances in that time period were off the bench as opposed to Higuain?

Can't find exact numbers but at a guess and from memory Higuain has alot more substitute appearances to his name

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Post by Turok_TTZ Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:35 pm

Different playing styles. Higuain is a pure poacher, Raul is more than that but ultimately an SS. The only person I can think of that is closer to Raul's style that is currently in Real Madrid is Benzema.

They both are inefficient in finishing at times, they are more playmakers than they are poachers hence both are more likely to deliver that final pass rather than gun for goal, both can't header (looool), both are selfless/team players. only thing Higuain and Raul share wud be the Passion and the Workrate for the Madrid shirt as well as the ridiculous positioning sense that they both have. Raul is currently the topscorer of cl history, Higuain is nowhere near making progress to reach that far into cl as RVN and Raul have.

But Higuain I trust will be a legend of his own right assuming he stays ofc.
Also need to mention that though both raul and higuain started off as wingers, Raul ended up being a CF not a poacher ST like Higuain. Comparison as a result i feel is a bit unfair becuz as result, Higuain>Raul in finishing efficiency. Im more of a Raul Fanboy than I am a Benz fanboy but I am realistic. Raul at times lets his finishing fail him, reason why Raul still is my hero is that he always came good when it mattered regardless of that.

Anywho why the comparison Crimson? Both have different styles and slightly different positions. The way I see it assuming Higuain stays and continues doing well, he wont be the new Raul, Higuain will be Higuain.
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:54 pm

For the last time I never said Higuain was better than Raul, far from it

I just wanted to show the comparisons in their early performances for Madrid because every fregn week AS and Marca call Higuain the new Raul

Just abit of fun that people took way too seriously lmao

The line is similar though despite the differences in play style and position

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Post by StrugaRock Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:12 pm

Crimson wrote:For the last time I never said Higuain was better than Raul, far from it

I just wanted to show the comparisons in their early performances for Madrid because every fregn week AS and Marca call Higuain the new Raul

Just abit of fun that people took way too seriously lmao

The line is similar though despite the differences in play style and position

Well his lob shots are similar to Raul's, also he had Raul and RVN to teach him, he had the best teachers and it's not a coincidence he is this good at what he does
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:54 pm

I find it very funny that Crimson puts forth a comparison of numbers between Higuain and Raul, and 80% of people think he is making a case for Higuain being better, lmao.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:58 pm

Wouldn't a more apt comparison be goals per minute rather than per game?
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:10 pm

goals are just a partial measure of a player like Raul who had skills everywhere... for a poacher, sure.

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Post by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:26 pm

sportsczy wrote:goals are just a partial measure of a player like Raul who had skills everywhere... for a poacher, sure.

Higuain is more than just a poacher ffs, off ya horse

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Post by futbol_bill Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:35 pm

Saetablanca wrote:What Raul did over his whole carreer can not be achieved again. You can compare him in that respect to Casillas, but no other striker in the forseeable future will be able to emerge so young, so versatile, remain in the starting XI for so many years, a fixed presence over many different eras, a true captain and eventually amazing goalscorer as well as even a mediapunta sometimes, a European legend. I cant even entertain the hopes that Higuain can do that. We dont even have anyone in Castilla that can be compared to Raul right now.

How about the name Villa!!!!!!!
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:38 pm

Villa has never been and will never be as great as Raul at club level.
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Post by futbol_bill Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:47 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:Villa has never been and will never be as great as Raul at club level.

I wasn't saying he is (I am Asturian but a Real Madrid fan). I'm just saying you can compare Villa stats to Raul's like Crimseon is doing with Higuain and you will get a similar comparison. And Villa like Raul is also not a #9. Villa does compare if not better than Raul at NT, but you are right re club and europe. But I would venture to say that Villa club numbers are better than Higgy's.
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:52 pm

futbol_bill wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:Villa has never been and will never be as great as Raul at club level.

I wasn't saying he is (I am Asturian but a Real Madrid fan). I'm just saying you can compare Villa stats to Raul's like Crimseon is doing with Higuain and you will get a similar comparison. And Villa like Raul is also not a #9. Villa does compare if not better than Raul at NT, but you are right re club and europe. But I would venture to say that Villa club numbers are better than Higgy's.

Lol that's not a very adventurous statement my friend Very Happy

At the same age Higuain is murdering him tho........

he only had 38 goals in 80 games by the time he was 23 Smile
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Post by S32TABLANCA Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:54 pm

futbol_bill wrote:
Saetablanca wrote:What Raul did over his whole carreer can not be achieved again. You can compare him in that respect to Casillas, but no other striker in the forseeable future will be able to emerge so young, so versatile, remain in the starting XI for so many years, a fixed presence over many different eras, a true captain and eventually amazing goalscorer as well as even a mediapunta sometimes, a European legend. I cant even entertain the hopes that Higuain can do that. We dont even have anyone in Castilla that can be compared to Raul right now.

How about the name Villa!!!!!!!

For Real Madrid, of course. Thats what I meant. Anyway, Villa didnt do all of those things.

Raul>>>Villa. Completely. Forever.

Youre not just hyping him because he's an Asturiano, are you?

Edit: You beat me to it, I didnt see the above posts before commenting. Razz
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Post by futbol_bill Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:00 pm

Saetablanca wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:
Saetablanca wrote:What Raul did over his whole carreer can not be achieved again. You can compare him in that respect to Casillas, but no other striker in the forseeable future will be able to emerge so young, so versatile, remain in the starting XI for so many years, a fixed presence over many different eras, a true captain and eventually amazing goalscorer as well as even a mediapunta sometimes, a European legend. I cant even entertain the hopes that Higuain can do that. We dont even have anyone in Castilla that can be compared to Raul right now.

How about the name Villa!!!!!!!

For Real Madrid, of course. Thats what I meant. Anyway, Villa didnt do all of those things.

Raul>>>Villa. Completely. Forever.

Youre not just hyping him because he's an Asturiano, are you?

Edit: You beat me to it, I didnt see the above posts before commenting. Razz


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