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Re: Evra Accuses Suarez of Making Racist Comments?
that's it then, lifetime ban and a eleventy billion dollar fine
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You've gotta be kidding me.
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finally justice is prevailing
kick racism out of football, kick suarez and terry out of football
kick racism out of football, kick suarez and terry out of football
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Sure there is serious proof for the FA to take this action... it's a killer for Suarez.
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video evidence
look at him winding evra up, if you think he was being playful with those words then youre a fool
hes admitted hes said it, but the "it means something different where im from" is such an ambiguious get out that it cant be really be considered
the killer is that evra is fluent in 4 different languages, there is no lost in translation when it comes to evra
RealGunner.. your mom is a fat whore who loves to **** my ****
dont be mad. where i come from, thats a compliment
look at him winding evra up, if you think he was being playful with those words then youre a fool
hes admitted hes said it, but the "it means something different where im from" is such an ambiguious get out that it cant be really be considered
the killer is that evra is fluent in 4 different languages, there is no lost in translation when it comes to evra
RealGunner.. your mom is a fat whore who loves to **** my ****
dont be mad. where i come from, thats a compliment
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cyberman wrote:video evidence
look at him winding evra up, if you think he was being playful with those words then youre a fool
hes admitted hes said it, but the "it means something different where im from" is such an ambiguious get out that it cant be really be considered
the killer is that evra is fluent in 4 different languages, there is no lost in translation when it comes to evra
RealGunner.. your mom is a fat whore who loves to **** my ****
dont be mad. where i come from, thats a compliment
Am i missing summing here?
Wheres this coming from lol?
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Immaculate_Mole wrote:cyberman wrote:video evidence
look at him winding evra up, if you think he was being playful with those words then youre a fool
hes admitted hes said it, but the "it means something different where im from" is such an ambiguious get out that it cant be really be considered
the killer is that evra is fluent in 4 different languages, there is no lost in translation when it comes to evra
RealGunner.. your mom is a fat whore who loves to **** my ****
dont be mad. where i come from, thats a compliment
Am i missing summing here?
Wheres this coming from lol?
It comes from the fact that Suarez said in Urugauy to call someone a "n*****" is just banter.
lol utter bs.
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You could probably call Evra a 'meanie', and he'd make a big deal of it and go crying to the media.
Keyword is still "alleged" , and I don't think anything will happen to Suarez (giving the FA the benefit of the doubt here)
Keyword is still "alleged" , and I don't think anything will happen to Suarez (giving the FA the benefit of the doubt here)
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Be/\/ceCALI wrote:You could probably call Evra a 'meanie', and he'd make a big deal of it and go crying to the media.
Keyword is still "alleged" , and I don't think anything will happen to Suarez (giving the FA the benefit of the doubt here)
There is no "alleged" in this case since Suarez actually admitted calling Evra a "nigreto" or whatever it is said in Spanish. He obviously said it again and again in hopes of winding up Evra.....and it actually worked because I have never seen Evra become so pissed off with another player like he did with Suarez.
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Spanish FA did nothing against racism of busquets and lolbregas even With video proof ...what chances are there against suarez??
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Devil-Is-Red wrote:Be/\/ceCALI wrote:You could probably call Evra a 'meanie', and he'd make a big deal of it and go crying to the media.
Keyword is still "alleged" , and I don't think anything will happen to Suarez (giving the FA the benefit of the doubt here)
There is no "alleged" in this case since Suarez actually admitted calling Evra a "nigreto" or whatever it is said in Spanish. He obviously said it again and again in hopes of winding up Evra.....and it actually worked because I have never seen Evra become so pissed off with another player like he did with Suarez.
"Negrito", it's like saying "mate"!
Anyway, I do not believe Suarez tried to be racist, if I'm used to calling people "mate" in one country, I'll do it without thinking in every country.
However, should there be clear evidence of Suarez actually intentionally being racist, then I shall not defend him. Waiting for that evidence.
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Adit wrote:Spanish FA did nothing against racism of busquets and lolbregas even With video proof ...what chances are there against suarez??
Spanish FA and English FA are different. Justice will be served and Saurez will be punished hopefully.....and hopefully Terry will get punished too.
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Art Morte wrote:Devil-Is-Red wrote:Be/\/ceCALI wrote:You could probably call Evra a 'meanie', and he'd make a big deal of it and go crying to the media.
Keyword is still "alleged" , and I don't think anything will happen to Suarez (giving the FA the benefit of the doubt here)
There is no "alleged" in this case since Suarez actually admitted calling Evra a "nigreto" or whatever it is said in Spanish. He obviously said it again and again in hopes of winding up Evra.....and it actually worked because I have never seen Evra become so pissed off with another player like he did with Suarez.
"Negrito", it's like saying "mate"!
Anyway, I do not believe Suarez tried to be racist, if I'm used to calling people "mate" in one country, I'll do it without thinking in every country.
However, should there be clear evidence of Suarez actually intentionally being racist, then I shall not defend him. Waiting for that evidence.
But suarez was using it in a way to insult Evra and wind him up...so clearly by saying it he wasn't doing it in a joking manner.
He was being abusive, and the fact that he used a word that outside of Uruguay would be deemed as racist on a black player is evidence enough of his intentions.
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BS!!!!!!! Negrito is not a racist term. Yes Suarez used it to wind up evra but not by insultign his race. Its just a thing uruguayans do. We pick an aspect about the person and yell a t them sarcastically. im a defender and at various points iv done it. There was a penalty about to be taken and i walked by the kid and said cagate negro puto. there was an asian kid and he hit me and i said espera en la proxima chino de mierda. a skinny kid was afraid to tacvkle me and i said no tengas miedo flaco and winked at him. its just things we do its not directed the persons race. The main point of it it is the threat or the sarcasm in the voice
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Charrua wrote:BS!!!!!!! Negrito is not a racist term. Yes Suarez used it to wind up evra but not by insultign his race. Its just a thing uruguayans do. We pick an aspect about the person and yell a t them sarcastically. im a defender and at various points iv done it. There was a penalty about to be taken and i walked by the kid and said cagate negro puto. there was an asian kid and he hit me and i said espera en la proxima chino de mierda. a skinny kid was afraid to tacvkle me and i said no tengas miedo flaco and winked at him. its just things we do its not directed the persons race. The main point of it it is the threat or the sarcasm in the voice
You do that within your own culture, but why do it in another country towards another player who he knew will most likely be offended by it?
His intentions were to wind up Evra so bad by using a word he knew Evra will take offence from.
It was a racist act and justice has been served.
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they should just shake hands and solve this problem
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zizzle wrote:they should just shake hands and solve this problem
lmao blatter
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zizzle wrote:they should just shake hands and solve this problem
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You fail to realize that I would do in any country to any person and I would never have a racial conatation.Devil-Is-Red wrote:Charrua wrote:BS!!!!!!! Negrito is not a racist term. Yes Suarez used it to wind up evra but not by insultign his race. Its just a thing uruguayans do. We pick an aspect about the person and yell a t them sarcastically. im a defender and at various points iv done it. There was a penalty about to be taken and i walked by the kid and said cagate negro puto. there was an asian kid and he hit me and i said espera en la proxima chino de mierda. a skinny kid was afraid to tacvkle me and i said no tengas miedo flaco and winked at him. its just things we do its not directed the persons race. The main point of it it is the threat or the sarcasm in the voice
You do that within your own culture, but why do it in another country towards another player who he knew will most likely be offended by it?
His intentions were to wind up Evra so bad by using a word he knew Evra will take offence from.
It was a racist act and justice has been served.
Im uruguay. Think like a uruguay. therfore im almost sure Luis´ train of thought was ¨ohh look at this guy he´s mad lets rile him up some more. yooo negrito why are u acting like a bitch. huh negrito?¨ the negrito was a way to get his attention how to adress him. he wasnt insulting him for being black nor was he being racist. the actual insult or ploy is again the tone or making fun of the situation.. Calling someone flaco,negrito,chino,maricon its all nicknames we would give each other as friends so calling someone is that is like making fun of the situation cause we´re not friends. Its hard to explain.
Lemme ask you if suarez had not called some that was black negrito would there have been a problem?.....
well wanna know something suarez would call someone that isnt black negrito, or someoen that isnt asain chino, or someone thats not gay maricon or puto. and he would call just about anyone perro.(dog).. its not a shot at ur race, its just the way we say things.
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Re: Evra Accuses Suarez of Making Racist Comments?
Evra's teammates with several south americans so would surely know the meaning of the term in that context.
The FA have again taking the easy way out; charging Suarez with misconduct but not outright racism. So they can charge him without actually saying/proving he used a racist term or providing evidence.
Spineless as usual.
The FA have again taking the easy way out; charging Suarez with misconduct but not outright racism. So they can charge him without actually saying/proving he used a racist term or providing evidence.
Spineless as usual.
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How long would a ban like that be?
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There hasn't been a statement yet on what the punishment would be but I would assume it would be a lengthy ban and hefty fine.
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Charrua wrote:You fail to realize that I would do in any country to any person and I would never have a racial conatation.Devil-Is-Red wrote:Charrua wrote:BS!!!!!!! Negrito is not a racist term. Yes Suarez used it to wind up evra but not by insultign his race. Its just a thing uruguayans do. We pick an aspect about the person and yell a t them sarcastically. im a defender and at various points iv done it. There was a penalty about to be taken and i walked by the kid and said cagate negro puto. there was an asian kid and he hit me and i said espera en la proxima chino de mierda. a skinny kid was afraid to tacvkle me and i said no tengas miedo flaco and winked at him. its just things we do its not directed the persons race. The main point of it it is the threat or the sarcasm in the voice
You do that within your own culture, but why do it in another country towards another player who he knew will most likely be offended by it?
His intentions were to wind up Evra so bad by using a word he knew Evra will take offence from.
It was a racist act and justice has been served.
Im uruguay. Think like a uruguay. therfore im almost sure Luis´ train of thought was ¨ohh look at this guy he´s mad lets rile him up some more. yooo negrito why are u acting like a bitch. huh negrito?¨ the negrito was a way to get his attention how to adress him. he wasnt insulting him for being black nor was he being racist. the actual insult or ploy is again the tone or making fun of the situation.. Calling someone flaco,negrito,chino,maricon its all nicknames we would give each other as friends so calling someone is that is like making fun of the situation cause we´re not friends. Its hard to explain.
Lemme ask you if suarez had not called some that was black negrito would there have been a problem?.....
well wanna know something suarez would call someone that isnt black negrito, or someoen that isnt asain chino, or someone thats not gay maricon or puto. and he would call just about anyone perro.(dog).. its not a shot at ur race, its just the way we say things.
Cmon you can't be serious?
I know your Uruguayian and obviously a Suarez fan, but what he did was plain wrong. You can't defend in this case, he messed up big time. He used a term, which many black people would find deeply offensive, as an advatange to wind up Evra, and it worked too.
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I think if Surez publicly apologises then this could have been avoided.
There seems to be a misunderstanding but it is kind of naive that he would expect Evra to understand what ever he said to him in a Uruguayan context.
The point is Evra was offended by what ever was said, Surez didn't apologise or explain that his intentions were not racially driven. That's where the mistake lies from where I'm standing. Liverpool fans can jump up and say scandal or injustice but you can only blame whoever was in charge of Surez's and Liverpool's PR.
There seems to be a misunderstanding but it is kind of naive that he would expect Evra to understand what ever he said to him in a Uruguayan context.
The point is Evra was offended by what ever was said, Surez didn't apologise or explain that his intentions were not racially driven. That's where the mistake lies from where I'm standing. Liverpool fans can jump up and say scandal or injustice but you can only blame whoever was in charge of Surez's and Liverpool's PR.
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I actually don't like the way LFC said how Evra should be banned if proven wrong.
Racism is a serious allegation and for them to try and insinuate that Evra was trying to get Saurez in trouble is out of order.
Zealous....that's it. It's like Saurez expects everyone to "understand and accept Uruguayian culture on what's acceptable and what's not" I don't buy that for one second. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Racism is a serious allegation and for them to try and insinuate that Evra was trying to get Saurez in trouble is out of order.
Zealous....that's it. It's like Saurez expects everyone to "understand and accept Uruguayian culture on what's acceptable and what's not" I don't buy that for one second. He knew exactly what he was doing.
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