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Post by Art Morte Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 13:50

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14741758

Manchester United has reported an annual operating profit of £110.9m.

Total revenue rose to £334.1m for the year to the end of June 2011, up £45m on the previous year. Commercial revenue rose to £103.4m.

The football club is preparing a partial flotation on the Singapore Stock Exchange to raise up to £600m.


They are a money machine. Will probably be a strong title contender every year for decades to come.

As comparison, a year ago Arsenal's annual revenue was £224m, Chelsea £204m, Liverpool £185m, Manchester City £125m.
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Post by Ali Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 14:00

biggest club in the world atm imo
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Post by Guest Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 14:07

Man U? No way. Madrid had revenues of about 440 million in 09/10. Barca had revenues of 400 million... Man U was 3rd. Madrid was profitable as well. But the club's charter requires that most of the money be invested and they cannot sit on the cash. If it were truly run like a private enterprise meant to put money in the shareholders' pockets, Madrid could turn profits of 100 million+ every year. Probably close to 200 million actually. But it is not allowed to.

Madrid has been in the #1 position by Deloitte for 6 years in a row.

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Post by Art Morte Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 14:24

I wonder at what point you'll start having real differences in the league... I mean, if ManU make £100m more annual revenue now than the next best club in England, at what point it will start properly showing?

Will we see a future where domestic throphies are divided something like:

50% Manchester United
10% Arsenal
10% Chelsea
10% Liverpool
10% Manchester City
10 % the rest
?
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 14:27

Art Morte wrote:I wonder at what point you'll start having real differences in the league... I mean, if ManU make £100m more annual revenue now than the next best club in England, at what point it will start properly showing?

Will we see a future where domestic throphies are divided something like:

50% Manchester United
10% Arsenal
10% Chelsea
10% Liverpool
10% Manchester City
10 % the rest
?

You're basing this on profits?

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Post by Guest Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 14:28

Art Morte wrote:I wonder at what point you'll start having real differences in the league... I mean, if ManU make £100m more annual revenue now than the next best club in England, at what point it will start properly showing?

Will we see a future where domestic throphies are divided something like:

50% Manchester United
10% Arsenal
10% Chelsea
10% Liverpool
10% Manchester City
10 % the rest
?

Depends if the profits are reinvested, used to retire debt or simply distributed to the owners.

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Post by Abramovich Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 14:30

Marketing machine, we should try get a bigger slice of the Asian market imo.
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Post by Guest Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 14:30

english_jewel wrote:
Art Morte wrote:I wonder at what point you'll start having real differences in the league... I mean, if ManU make £100m more annual revenue now than the next best club in England, at what point it will start properly showing?

Will we see a future where domestic throphies are divided something like:

50% Manchester United
10% Arsenal
10% Chelsea
10% Liverpool
10% Manchester City
10 % the rest
?

You're basing this on profits?

And then there's this... some clubs could care less about profitablity (Chelsea and City). All they look to do is maximize revenue so that they can straddle the FFP line.

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Post by Art Morte Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 14:34

english_jewel wrote:
Art Morte wrote:I wonder at what point you'll start having real differences in the league... I mean, if ManU make £100m more annual revenue now than the next best club in England, at what point it will start properly showing?

Will we see a future where domestic throphies are divided something like:

50% Manchester United
10% Arsenal
10% Chelsea
10% Liverpool
10% Manchester City
10 % the rest
?

You're basing this on profits?

Well profits and revenue, yeah.
It's a fact that if you've got more money than your rival, you will in the medium-to-long-term do better than them in sports.
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Post by Seppuku Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:01

They still have an astounding 750 million in debt.

Doomed club.
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Post by Adit Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:02

Poor mans real madrid with dept Twisted Evil
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Post by RED Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:06

Seppuku wrote:They still have an astounding 750 million in debt.

Doomed club.

Reduced to 308 mill now!

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If we had our own tv income, similar to what Barca and RM have, we would make way, way more!
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Post by Guest Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:11

Devil-Is-Red wrote:
Seppuku wrote:They still have an astounding 750 million in debt.

Doomed club.

Reduced to 308 mill now!

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If we had our own tv income, similar to what Barca and RM have, we would make way, way more!

the difference in TV income isn't as big as you think

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Post by cyberman Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:15

[quote="Seppuku"]They still have an astounding 750 million in debt.

Doomed club.[/quote]

wow, spouting propaganda from 05, well done asshat

debt £308.3m.
Madrids profits in 2010...The Spanish giants club reported annual profits of 24 million euros
Utd in 2011...Profit £29.7m
This doesnt include our training top deal or that Asian mobile phone deal either
whats that? a CR7 away from Madrids debt number?

Anyway kid, were IPOing 25% of shares in 4 weeks...debt free motherfker

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Post by Swanhends Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:19

Art Morte wrote:I wonder at what point you'll start having real differences in the league... I mean, if ManU make £100m more annual revenue now than the next best club in England, at what point it will start properly showing?

Will we see a future where domestic throphies are divided something like:

50% Manchester United
10% Arsenal
10% Chelsea
10% Liverpool
10% Manchester City
10 % the rest
?

r.i.p greatest lg in the world
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Post by cyberman Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:21

No Crimson, our own tv deal would dwarf Madrids and Barcas
If we had the same percentage as the Spanish 2, it would be touching 2 billion. thats a percentage of a collective tv deal that, although keeps the non top clubs in a strong position, means the TV deal isnt nearly as high as the top clubs could get.

God knows what our number would be

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Post by cyberman Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:24

Art, weve been the top income club in England for a while now. We just turned down Sneijder due to wages.
Our big signing in 2 years are from Chivas, Wigan, Villa and Blackburn. Were run the right way...with proper management

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Post by Seppuku Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:25

Lol don't get so butthurt...

cyberman wrote:Anyway kid, were IPOing 25% of shares in 4 weeks...debt free motherfker

That makes no sense. IPO's are stocks. Stocks are debt. As in they have a maturity and they have to be paid back, with interest.

You're simply piling on more debt.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:26

Does anyone have a balance sheet and income statement?

Or failing that, are they still in debt, even after making a profit of 100M?
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Post by cyberman Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:27

ummm....no?

lol

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Post by cyberman Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:27

edit that was to Seppuku

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Post by Swanhends Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:29

Seppuku wrote:Stocks are debt.

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Post by RED Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:29

Seppukku.... How are those lemons?
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Post by cyberman Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:31

Theyre IPOing 25% of Utd. Thats equity to shareholders. Not more debt.

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Thu 1 Sep 2011 - 15:35

You guys talk as if you're financial experts. Laughing

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