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Yuri Yukuv wrote:imalegend wrote:che wrote:imalegend wrote:Dozens and dozens of horrendous photos of Gaddafi's dead body are being released by both the Eastern and Western media as we speak. Yet, it's been over 5 months and we have not seen even ONE of Osama's. Go figure.
maybe because his death wasn't a public event?
public or non public doesn't mean shit.... most Western Media were defending not showing Osama because it was too bloody and couldn't be shown on TV..... but well i guess the Hanging of Saddam and the bloody dead/dying face andbody of Gaddafi ok to show.....
Wait, where are these pictures of osama?
The White House has it.... all the top Officials have seen it....they even have the video i think....as there was a camera on a seal as it happened....
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Ah ok, ,but the media hasnt seen it?
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it was the white house that refused to release the bin laden pics, not western media.
western media wouldve shown it if released, remember the fake pic that was doing the rounds?
the white house werent in charge of releasing gaddafis pic / video so there is no connection
western media wouldve shown it if released, remember the fake pic that was doing the rounds?
the white house werent in charge of releasing gaddafis pic / video so there is no connection
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Senor Penguin wrote:If Gaddafi was such a sweetheart to the rest of Africa, especially Ghana, why didn't influential leaders like Kofi Annan give a crap about him?buddytaller wrote:Here are articles on the brother leader's last visit to my home-city Kumasi,
http://www.modernghana.com/news/138569/1/gaddafi-arrives-in-kumasi.html
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=126395
Because they are afraid of Western powers, most of our leaders on the continent are just puppets, who dare not challenge the West. Gaddafi defied the status quo, when he helped liberated South Africa from the racist Apartheid rule and heavily invested in the economies of many countries across the continent. We are breathed a sigh of relief when the sanctions on him was lifted and he was allowed to travel, a feeling of euphoria swept across Ghana when he visited us, his mission was very identical to that of Kwame Nkrumah.
The African Union at least did not support the murder perpetrated by the NTC, so I'm sure the brother leader may not feel as betrayed by us. Have you seen this video?
or this open letter to the Russian leaders by Russian health workers in Libya?
OPEN LETTER
President of the Russian Federation Medvedev DA
Prime Minister of Russian Federation VV Putin
from citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia,
working and living in Libya
March 24, 2011, Tripoli, Libya
Dear Mr Medvedev and Vladimir Putin,
You said that citizens of the former Soviet Union were destined to become today citizens of different Slavic CIS countries - Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. Despite this, we all believe that it is Russia as successor to the USSR which is our SOLE safeguard for the interests of our countries and the security of our citizens. Therefore, we appeal to you for help and justice.
Today, there is blatant external aggression of USA and NATO against a sovereign country - Libya. And if anyone can doubt this, then we say this obvious fact is well known, because all this is happening before our eyes, and the actions of U.S. and NATO threaten the lives of not only the citizens of Libya, but to us who are on its territory. We are outraged by the barbaric bombing of Libya, which is currently carried out by a coalition of U.S. and NATO.
The bombing of Tripoli and other cities in Libya is aimed not only at the objects of air defense and Libya's Air Force and not only against the Libyan army, but also the object of military and civilian infrastructure. Today, 24 March 2011, NATO aircraft and the U.S. all night and all morning bombed a suburb of Tripoli - Tajhura (where, in particular, is Libya's Nuclear Research Center). Air Defence and Air Force facilities in Tajhura were destroyed back in the first 2 days of strikes and more active military facilities in the city remained, but today the object of bombing are barracks of the Libyan army, around which are densely populated residential areas, and next to it - the largest in Libya's Heart Centres. Civilians and the doctors could not assume that common residential quarters will be about to become destroyed, so none of the residents or hospital patients was evacuated.
Bombs and rockets struck residential houses and fell near the hospital. The glass of the Cardiac Center building was broken, and in the building of the maternity ward for pregnant women with heart disease a wall collapsed and part of the roof. This resulted in ten miscarriages whereby babies died, the women are in intensive care, doctors are fighting for their lives. We and our colleagues are working seven days a week, to save people. This is a direct consequence of falling bombs and missiles in residential buildings resulting in dozens of deaths and injuries, which are operated and reviewed now by our doctors. Such a large number of wounded and killed, as during today, did not result during the total of all the riots in Libya. And this is called "protecting the civilian population"?
With full responsibility as witnesses and participants of what is happening, we state that a genocide is thus being carried out by the United States and its allies against the Libyan people - as was the case in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq. Crimes against humanity, carried out by coalition forces akin to those crimes committed by the fathers and grandfathers of today's Western leaders and their henchmen in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan and in Dresden in Germany, where civilians were also being destroyed in order to deter, to break the will of the people to resist (Germany remembers it, and therefore refused to participate in this new slaughterhouse). Today they want in such ways to make the Libyan people surrender their leader and the legitimate government and meekly lay down their national oil wealth for the countries of the coalition.
We understand that applying to the "international community" to save the people of Libya and we were living in Libya, is useless. Our only hope - is Russia that has the right of veto in the UN, and specifically its leaders - the President and the Prime Minister.
We still hope for you, as hoped in the past, when we took the decision to stay in Libya, and to help its people, medical duty playing its role in the first place. After an abortive coup attempt in late February, the situation calmed down in Libya and the government had successfully restored order. To everyone in Libya, it was clear that without American intervention the country would soon return to normal life. Convinced that Russia, which has veto power, would not allow the aggression of the United States and its allies, we decided to stay in Libya, but were mistaken: Russia, unfortunately, believed the false assurances of Americans and did not oppose the criminal decision of France and the U.S.
We are Ukrainians, Russians and Belarusians, the people of various professions (mainly doctors), working in Libya for more than a year (from 2 to 20 years). During this time, we became well acquainted with the life of the Libyan people and state with few citizens of other nations living in this social comfort, as the Libyans. They are entitled to free treatment, and their hospitals provide the best in the world of medical equipment. Education in Libya is free, capable young people have the opportunity to study abroad at government expense. When marrying, young couples receive 60,000 Libyan dinars (about 50,000 U.S. dollars) of financial assistance. Non-interest state loans, and as practice shows, undated. Due to government subsidies the price of cars is much lower than in Europe, and they are affordable for every family. Gasoline and bread cost a penny, no taxes for those who are engaged in agriculture. The Libyan people are quiet and peaceful, are not inclined to drink, and are very religious. [Mathaba Editor note: Libyans average income far exceeds that of Russia. Yet Russia has veto power on the UN, not Libya].
Today, the people are suffering. In February, the peaceful life of the people was violated by gangs of criminals and insane drugged youth - whom the Western media for some reason called "peaceful demonstrators". These used weapons and attacked police stations, government agencies, military units - resulting in bloodshed. Those who direct them, pursue a clear objective - to create chaos and establish control over Libya's oil. They misinformed the international community, and said that the Libyans are struggling against the regime. Tell us, who would not like such a regime? If such a regime was in Ukraine or Russia, we would not have been here and worked and enjoyed the social comfort at home in our own countries and in every possible way such a regime would be maintained.
If the U.S. and the EU today have nothing to do, let them turn their attention to the plight of Japan, the Israeli bombing of Palestine, the audacity and impunity of Somali pirates, or the plight of Arab immigrants in France, and leave the Libyans themselves to sort out their internal problems.
We see that today in Libya they want to do another Iraq. Carrying out the genocide of an entire people and those who are found with him. We perform MEDICAL DEBT and can not leave Libyans alone in trouble, leaving them to destroy the forces of the coalition, in addition, we understand that when all the foreigners leave and no one will tell the truth (the small staff of diplomatic missions have long been silenced), the Americans will arrange here a bloodbath. And because our only chance of survival - is a solid civil position of Russia in the UN Security Council.
We hope that you, Mr. President, and you, Mr. Prime Minister, as citizens of Russia and as decent people will not allow American and European fascists of the 21st century to destroy the freedom-loving people of Libya and of those who today turned out to be with them.
We therefore urgently request that Russia uses its right of veto, the right earned by millions of lives of the Soviet people during World War II to stop the aggression against a sovereign state, to seek immediate cessation of U.S. and NATO bombing campaign and to demand the introduction of African Union troops in the conflict zone Libya.
[Note: The African Union Peace & Security Council delegates that had been accepted by both the Libyan government and the rebel leaders to mediate a peaceful solution between the various parties, were refused entry into Libya by the UN Security Council. This act should have been reprimanded by Russia and China, who should study the AU resolutions, mandate and support its wise decisions]
LIBYA HANDS OFF!
With respect and hope
your wisdom and honesty,
Citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia,
located in Libya
Bordovsky S., Vasilenko, S., Vegerkina A., Henry IV, Henry H., L. Grigorenko, DraBragg, A., Drobot V. Drobot, N., Yemets E., Kolesnikova, T., Kuzin, I., Kuzmenko, B., Kulebyakin V. Kulmenko T., Nikolaev AG, Papelyuk V. Selizar V. Selizar About . Smirnov, O. Smirnova, R., Soloviev DA, Stadnik VA, Stolpakova T. Streschalin G. Stakhovich Yu, Sukacheva L. Sukachev V. Tarakanov, T., Tikhon N. Tikhonov VI, Tkachev AV, Hadareva E., Tchaikovsky, O., Chukhno D. Chukhno O. Yakovenko D. et al
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Was Gaddafi screaming in that video "Allahu Ekber"?
Was Gaddafi screaming in that video "Allahu Ekber"?
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buddytaller, throughout this thread you have had no valid argument, so please *bleep* off .
No lol, Gaddafi probably isn't even Muslim...
When he was captured he was saying "What's wrong with you?". You can't hear him say it in the video, but he did say it.
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Was Gaddafi screaming in that video "Allahu Ekber"?
No lol, Gaddafi probably isn't even Muslim...
When he was captured he was saying "What's wrong with you?". You can't hear him say it in the video, but he did say it.
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Just goes to show the pack of animals they are
No more better than the man they came to over throw
Watch now the vultures circle....
No more better than the man they came to over throw
Watch now the vultures circle....
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Crimson wrote:Just goes to show the pack of animals they are
No more better than the man they came to over throw
Watch now the vultures circle....
wtf are you on about?
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To all Libyan's......Enjoyyyy the freedom guys...Best wishes to U. Congratz
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Crimson wrote:Just goes to show the pack of animals they are
No more better than the man they came to over throw
Watch now the vultures circle....
really, whats the point of giving this man, if you cna call him that, a fair trial? its as clear as daylight that he guilty, anyway what he got wasnt even 0.0000000000001% of what he delt, he had alot worse coming to him, he got off easy
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But it is a problem of ethics, see?
And fatman, remember this?
You never know (;
GO AND STUDY, FATMAN.
And fatman, remember this?
You never know (;
GO AND STUDY, FATMAN.
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beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:But it is a problem of ethics, see?
And fatman, remember this?
You never know (;
GO AND STUDY, FATMAN.
so many boys didnt go to school that day, but i soldiered on! why you ask
its nearly and 11.00 and if you must know i got 91% on the 2001 general HSC, 89% on the 2002 paper and 95% on the 2003 paper
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ohh and ethics shemthics they hould be just as ethical as he was
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Which isn't that ethical.
I SOLDIERED ON THAT DAY AS WELL, I WAS ABOUT TO TAKE THIS AWESOME PICTURE OF THE SUN GOING BLUE, BUT THEN IT WENT UNDER A CLOUD, AND IT NEVER CAME BACK ):
Why would you bludge that day?
Almost everyone went to school .__.
When I left home, I was like: 'AAAAAARGH, I'M GONNA SUFFOCATE.' And then I start breathing and don't notice a difference
I SOLDIERED ON THAT DAY AS WELL, I WAS ABOUT TO TAKE THIS AWESOME PICTURE OF THE SUN GOING BLUE, BUT THEN IT WENT UNDER A CLOUD, AND IT NEVER CAME BACK ):
Why would you bludge that day?
Almost everyone went to school .__.
When I left home, I was like: 'AAAAAARGH, I'M GONNA SUFFOCATE.' And then I start breathing and don't notice a difference
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i went, most people said air pollution, asthma (which i have etc) although most milked it because we had something on at school thaat day, cant remeber what it was but nobody wanted to go and a gigantic dust cloud seemed the perfect excuse not to
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Yeah, I was hoping that the air actually would screw with my breathing so I would have a legitimate excuse not to go to school, but it didn't ==
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First, nobody wanted him dead at that moment. They wanted him alive so he can go through questioning + investigation. They didn't beat him into the ground until he bled like that. He was wounded while his bodyguards were defending him. He was wanted alive.
And what does ethics have to do with this? When a group of people have years, if not decades of pent up anger against somebody and they all come face to face with that person, you really can't blame them if things get a little messy.
And what does ethics have to do with this? When a group of people have years, if not decades of pent up anger against somebody and they all come face to face with that person, you really can't blame them if things get a little messy.
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He was shot by his bodyguards, his wounds were mostly due to the bombings
Crimson posted something stupid then fled so that he doesn't have to deal with it.
Buddytaller is an idiot and should be banned for being a complete fool.
Too bad the rat was not caught so that all his deeds can be shown on trial and he is stripped to his base self. Yet, even then, fools like buddytaller will have him "in their hearts".
Hope for Libya all the best, the leadership now have their challenge mapped up for them. A rebuilding of the country is needed. Oil will bring income to Libya and this income should be used to improve the country.
Change should not be rushed, 10 even 20 years are needed to get the effects of that rat on the country cleansed. Good luck.
Crimson posted something stupid then fled so that he doesn't have to deal with it.
Buddytaller is an idiot and should be banned for being a complete fool.
Too bad the rat was not caught so that all his deeds can be shown on trial and he is stripped to his base self. Yet, even then, fools like buddytaller will have him "in their hearts".
Hope for Libya all the best, the leadership now have their challenge mapped up for them. A rebuilding of the country is needed. Oil will bring income to Libya and this income should be used to improve the country.
Change should not be rushed, 10 even 20 years are needed to get the effects of that rat on the country cleansed. Good luck.
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The Libyans have 42 years of built up anger. Their reaction was normal. An eye for an eye!Crimson wrote:Just goes to show the pack of animals they are
No more better than the man they came to over throw
Watch now the vultures circle....
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7amood11 wrote:buddytaller, throughout this thread you have had no valid argument, so please *bleep* off .metinsk wrote:Amood
Was Gaddafi screaming in that video "Allahu Ekber"?
No lol, Gaddafi probably isn't even Muslim...
When he was captured he was saying "What's wrong with you?". You can't hear him say it in the video, but he did say it.
My point is simple, Gaddafi is a revolutionary who took Libya from being among the poorest in the world to a little heaven in Africa, despite sanctions imposed on him. Which explained why about 20% of the population of Libya before the crisis was made up of foreign immigrants, mainly West Africans. He has consistently denied all the allegations against him, none of which has been proven, and to ease Libya back to international recognition after the sanctions were lifted, he agreed a multi-billion settlement for victims of the Pan-Am bombing incident, he was then visited by Blair, Rice and Berlusconi, he even sponsored Sarkozy in his campaign bid but all came to nothing.
On the continent he invested heavily in the economies of many poor African nations, in communications, agriculture etc, he helped Mandela and South Africa in their struggles for independence from the racist Apartheid regime, he was a founder and chief supporter of the African Union. He, being a pan-Africanist sought to unite Africans. But the West led by Obama, Sarkozy and their cronies waged an illegal war on Libya, they saw Gaddafi as a political and economic threat, the Arab spring sprung up, and the dollar signs started flashing in their eyes. They were quick to sign up Libya's oil resources even before the end of the world.
I can only speak for myself and I believe Gaddafi is an African hero (was given a hero's welcome in Ghana and South Africa) who sought to remove the slavish mentalities of some black Africans, who resisted racist sentiments among citizens of his own country and embraced all cultures and races into Libya, making her one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
And on the lies of democracy, Libya had a Peoples Assembly, which met and formed part of the decision making body of the country, they elected a Prime-minister who run the day to day affairs of Libya. If the west is so concerned about democracy, why don't they attack China, the world's biggest non-democratic nation, or Saudi Arabia, UAE etc who don't practice the western forms of governance.
On the demonstrations, it was clear that the protest started in Bengazi the home-city of the former rulers of Libya and the terrorist group LIFG. They started a demonstrating by burning government facilities such as police stations and looted arms, several police were killed, which government in the world would not react to such lawlessness? They were infiltrated by terrorists, Al-jazeera and other western news agency started a propaganda war, and without any investigations by the UN, "a no fly zone" was imposed on Libya to protect civilians, the no fly zone turned into a bomb parade and several military and civilian installments in Libya were bombed to dust, several civilians and soldiers were killed and a full civil war evolved. The rebels began a racial cleansing in Libya, targeting black Africans and executing them on weak allegations of them being mercenaries fighting for Gaddafi.
The west is sending a message to all leaders out there, never challenge the west, from Cuba to Venezuela and Vietnam, America has sought it's interest first before the interest of any other nation and Libya is no different, they are already siphoning Libya's oil, which would mean the average Libyan would no longer benefit from the social incentives instituted by the brother leader, no free water, electricity, health care ,cheap loans, sponsored foreign education etc. The rest of Africa, will lose the economic support, that Libya used to provide.
Very soon the terrorists and radical Islamists among the ranks of the NTC will begin to show their true colours, the Mediterranean would no longer be safe, people loyal to the Brother Leader would definitely seek revenge, as it stands things don't look for the once heaven in Africa.
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This is the so called mass celebration of the Brother leader death.
This is a Gaddafi rally's in Tripoli
In Al Ajaylat
A pro-gaddafi rally in Benghazi
How can one justify the total destruction of Sirte a once beautiful city in Libya? I'm saddened and so are the many Ghanaians who have felt the loss of this hero. RIP Brother Leader...
This is a Gaddafi rally's in Tripoli
In Al Ajaylat
A pro-gaddafi rally in Benghazi
How can one justify the total destruction of Sirte a once beautiful city in Libya? I'm saddened and so are the many Ghanaians who have felt the loss of this hero. RIP Brother Leader...
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Please, let's not paint him to be a martyr.
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buddytaller wrote:How can one justify the total destruction of Sirte a once beautiful city in Libya? I'm saddened and so are the many Ghanaians who have felt the loss of this hero. RIP Brother Leader...
and how can you justify killing thousands of people....and suppressing millions of people for over 40 years...
and those Ghanaians can go to hell....anyone who supports Gaddafi and his ways is as bad as him...
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imalegend wrote:buddytaller wrote:How can one justify the total destruction of Sirte a once beautiful city in Libya? I'm saddened and so are the many Ghanaians who have felt the loss of this hero. RIP Brother Leader...
and how can you justify killing thousands of people....and suppressing millions of people for over 40 years...
and those Ghanaians can go to hell....anyone who supports Gaddafi and his ways is as bad as him...
Well they don't have to necessarily go to Hell. They can just look down at it and wave to Gaddhafi
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MJGunner wrote:Please, let's not paint him to be a martyr.
It's what he's been trying to do the whole thread... Quite amusing
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buddytaller wrote:7amood11 wrote:buddytaller, throughout this thread you have had no valid argument, so please *bleep* off .metinsk wrote:Amood
Was Gaddafi screaming in that video "Allahu Ekber"?
No lol, Gaddafi probably isn't even Muslim...
When he was captured he was saying "What's wrong with you?". You can't hear him say it in the video, but he did say it.
My point is simple, Gaddafi is a revolutionary who took Libya from being among the poorest in the world to a little heaven in Africa, despite sanctions imposed on him. Which explained why about 20% of the population of Libya before the crisis was made up of foreign immigrants, mainly West Africans. He has consistently denied all the allegations against him, none of which has been proven, and to ease Libya back to international recognition after the sanctions were lifted, he agreed a multi-billion settlement for victims of the Pan-Am bombing incident, he was then visited by Blair, Rice and Berlusconi, he even sponsored Sarkozy in his campaign bid but all came to nothing.
On the continent he invested heavily in the economies of many poor African nations, in communications, agriculture etc, he helped Mandela and South Africa in their struggles for independence from the racist Apartheid regime, he was a founder and chief supporter of the African Union. He, being a pan-Africanist sought to unite Africans. But the West led by Obama, Sarkozy and their cronies waged an illegal war on Libya, they saw Gaddafi as a political and economic threat, the Arab spring sprung up, and the dollar signs started flashing in their eyes. They were quick to sign up Libya's oil resources even before the end of the world.
I can only speak for myself and I believe Gaddafi is an African hero (was given a hero's welcome in Ghana and South Africa) who sought to remove the slavish mentalities of some black Africans, who resisted racist sentiments among citizens of his own country and embraced all cultures and races into Libya, making her one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
And on the lies of democracy, Libya had a Peoples Assembly, which met and formed part of the decision making body of the country, they elected a Prime-minister who run the day to day affairs of Libya. If the west is so concerned about democracy, why don't they attack China, the world's biggest non-democratic nation, or Saudi Arabia, UAE etc who don't practice the western forms of governance.
On the demonstrations, it was clear that the protest started in Bengazi the home-city of the former rulers of Libya and the terrorist group LIFG. They started a demonstrating by burning government facilities such as police stations and looted arms, several police were killed, which government in the world would not react to such lawlessness? They were infiltrated by terrorists, Al-jazeera and other western news agency started a propaganda war, and without any investigations by the UN, "a no fly zone" was imposed on Libya to protect civilians, the no fly zone turned into a bomb parade and several military and civilian installments in Libya were bombed to dust, several civilians and soldiers were killed and a full civil war evolved. The rebels began a racial cleansing in Libya, targeting black Africans and executing them on weak allegations of them being mercenaries fighting for Gaddafi.
The west is sending a message to all leaders out there, never challenge the west, from Cuba to Venezuela and Vietnam, America has sought it's interest first before the interest of any other nation and Libya is no different, they are already siphoning Libya's oil, which would mean the average Libyan would no longer benefit from the social incentives instituted by the brother leader, no free water, electricity, health care ,cheap loans, sponsored foreign education etc. The rest of Africa, will lose the economic support, that Libya used to provide.
Very soon the terrorists and radical Islamists among the ranks of the NTC will begin to show their true colours, the Mediterranean would no longer be safe, people loyal to the Brother Leader would definitely seek revenge, as it stands things don't look for the once heaven in Africa.
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL
Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.
Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
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