Is Messi already best player of UCL-era?

Well, best attacking player, there is certainly argument for that. Here is table of statistics of Top 15 goal scorers of UCL-era:





Only players for me who are in the same ballpark, statistic wise, are Shevchenko, RvN and Raul.

- Shevchenko
Has more goals overall, and almost equal amount of goals in knockout stages. But loses in goals ratio, individual and club awards. IMO advantage Messi.

- RvN
Has more goals overall and better goal ratio. But has only 6 goals in knockout stages and no club title. IMO advantage Messi.

- Raul
Has more goals overall, but with inferior ratio. Also has one individual awards less. Others are equal. Can't really decide so I will call it draw.

So for me it's between Messi and Raul, for now. Could change already after next year.

What do you think?

Well atm it's hard to decide. But if Messi continues his' unbelievable goalscoring form then surely he would surpass everyone above him in that list.

Well in the titles category he already has the highest tally.

Oh dear, another Messi related thread :/

Many of those players would do better in this Barca team.

Edit: better than themselves.

He is topping everywhere, he has a good ratio in the El Clasicos, in La Liga etc.

I think only one matching his goal ratio was R9. So yes.

Best goalscorer undoubtedly.

He is the best player, but for totally unrelated reasons to mere goals to game ratios

The xcx wrote:Oh dear, another Messi related thread :/

There's not a single other Messi thread in the first page of the general section, so of the 50 most recent threads only 1 has been about Messi. Go troll elsewhere

The xcx wrote:Oh dear, another Messi related thread :/

Banned.

Zidane.The best of this generation IMO.

Unless i am mistaken and this thread is solely about who is the best player in CL.Then yes he is best attacking player in CL since it was started.Maldini will have a claim for best player IMO.

jiopsi stp scking messi's midget dck so mch...

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

The xcx wrote:Oh dear, another Messi related thread :/

There's not a single other Messi thread in the first page of the general section, so of the 50 most recent threads only 1 has been about Messi. Go troll elsewhere

i thought every fckin thread was about messi (or atleast someone manages to mention his name in it)...

BeautifulGame wrote:Zidane.The best of this generation IMO.

Unless i am mistaken and this thread is solely about who is the best player in CL.Then yes he is best attacking player in CL since it was started.Maldini will have a claim for best player IMO.

Yes strictly UCL. Btw numbers for Zidane if you want to know, which are good for middfielder I think:

Zidane: age 39 goals 14 knockout 8 ratio 0,17 titles ind. 0 titles champ 1 titles overall 1.

This forum is on the downhill very fast. How can this OP neg repped? Ridiculous.

Messi is the best attacker since the CL era started.

Once he continues his impeccable form, I don't see any faults in labeling him as such. Sure makes more sense than the "Greatest ever" nonsense that was being spewed.

Whether he is considered now is subject to subjectivity but I think he'll break Raul's record. I really think it's very much possible...

jiopsi wrote:

BeautifulGame wrote:Zidane.The best of this generation IMO.

Unless i am mistaken and this thread is solely about who is the best player in CL.Then yes he is best attacking player in CL since it was started.Maldini will have a claim for best player IMO.

Yes strictly UCL. Btw numbers for Zidane if you want to know, which are good for middfielder I think:

Zidane: age 39 goals 14 knockout 8 ratio 0,17 titles ind. 0 titles champ 1 titles overall 1.

Fair enough its only about CL Messi is not only the best attacking player since CL started but will also comfortably become the best player in CL era in not too distant future usurping Maldini who i personally think is the best player in CL era IMO.

Well unless Podolski decides to show who is the BOSS.

free_cat wrote:This forum is on the downhill very fast. How can this OP neg repped? Ridiculous.

Messi is the best attacker since the CL era started.

I'm not sure if it's the topic he got negged for or him personally but the forum is doing fine. Maybe some people shouldn't be sensitive and relax a bit...

Seedorf, 4 titles, 3 different teams. Best midfielder 2 times.

paperbackwriter wrote:Seedorf, 4 titles, 3 different teams. Best midfielder 2 times.

Only one time best midfielder.

UEFA positional awards 97~: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Club_Football_Awards#Best_Midfielder

The BoyWonder wrote:jiopsi stp scking messi's midget dck so mch...

You create 15 threads a day about pointless crap, you have no right to tell anyone what to do, don't even post in a thread if you're going to post garbage like this.

Doc wrote:

free_cat wrote:This forum is on the downhill very fast. How can this OP neg repped? Ridiculous.

Messi is the best attacker since the CL era started.

I'm not sure if it's the topic he got negged for or him personally but the forum is doing fine. Maybe some people shouldn't be sensitive and relax a bit...

You get neg repped if you bring up anything about Barcelona or anything against Madrid.

Eto'o and Raul imo

Ruud was amazing in his United days, also Raul and Seedorf have been great. But yeah Messi is already one of the best so far, but i would still like to see him in another team or Barca with different players and style

Lionel Messi wrote:

Doc wrote:

free_cat wrote:This forum is on the downhill very fast. How can this OP neg repped? Ridiculous.

Messi is the best attacker since the CL era started.

I'm not sure if it's the topic he got negged for or him personally but the forum is doing fine. Maybe some people shouldn't be sensitive and relax a bit...

You get neg repped if you bring up anything about Barcelona or anything against Madrid.

That is a slightly narrow way of looking at it. It's not because one brings up Barca or against Madrid (although there is truth to what you say) but one must take into consideration the men who makes the thread. Jjopsi is a troll and quite possibly a good one. He has said several outlandish things about Madrid players that may not be considered pleasant so whatever he makes in the future would probably be deemed "troll" even though this thread certainly isn't.

Anyway, the forum is fine. Posters need to be less sensitive about matters...

Doc wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:

Doc wrote:

free_cat wrote:This forum is on the downhill very fast. How can this OP neg repped? Ridiculous.

Messi is the best attacker since the CL era started.

I'm not sure if it's the topic he got negged for or him personally but the forum is doing fine. Maybe some people shouldn't be sensitive and relax a bit...

You get neg repped if you bring up anything about Barcelona or anything against Madrid.

That is a slightly narrow way of looking at it. It's not because one brings up Barca or against Madrid (although there is truth to what you say) but one must take into consideration the men who makes the thread. Jjopsi is a troll and quite possibly a good one. He has said several outlandish things about Madrid players that may not be considered pleasant so whatever he makes in the future would probably be deemed "troll" even though this thread certainly isn't.

Anyway, the forum is fine. Posters need to be less sensitive about matters...

Good point, but I believe there was an actual discussion to be had here and maybe people were to quick to assume it was troll thread.