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Post by danyjr Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:32 pm

Myesyats wrote:Put Griezmann up for adoption ffs

im so done
Nobody would adopt him tbh.

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Post by Myesyats Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:34 pm

danyjr wrote:
Myesyats wrote:Put Griezmann up for adoption ffs

im so done
Nobody would adopt him tbh.

Scenes when Dembele benches him next season Laughing

absolutely braindead, 100M bench material
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Post by Robespierre Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:35 pm

Great chance missed by Lozano on 70', what a risk for Barca...


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Post by M99 Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:35 pm

Napoli being wasteful as f.
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Post by Myesyats Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:37 pm

i love Frenkie, gotta build around him
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Post by danyjr Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:40 pm

Barça's bench is SegĂșnda level ffs Laughing

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Post by Lucifer Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:41 pm

Myesyats wrote:i love Frenkie, gotta build around him

Yeah he's been good.

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Post by M99 Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:45 pm

Milik offside.
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Post by Lucifer Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:46 pm

@micecat get hold of your compatriot. He plans to spoil this for us.

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Post by danyjr Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:47 pm

Meanwhile Bayern battering EPL's 4th team and FA Cup finalists.

Can anyone not called Hans please tell me if Bayern are legit this season?
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Post by Lucifer Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:50 pm

Milk is terrifying. Why didn't he start?

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Post by Myesyats Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:50 pm

Lucifer wrote:@micecat get hold of your compatriot. He plans to spoil this for us.

man came in like a rabid dog ffs
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Post by rincon Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:50 pm

Bayern are gonna walk the CL
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Post by danyjr Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:51 pm

rincon wrote:Bayern are gonna walk the CL
In all honesty, I dislike Bayern but I'd cheer them against any Arab team.

Assalamualaykum iftikhar and Muslim brothers and good night to infidels.
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Post by danyjr Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:01 pm

Napoli fighting like maniacs at the end of the match reminded me of how Gattuso would have played it.
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Post by Casciavit Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:08 pm

Messi so good at nicking the ball ffs when he actually presses he's the best in the world at it
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Post by danyjr Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:17 pm

Casciavit wrote:Messi so good at nicking the ball ffs when he actually presses he's the best in the world at it

Fraudiola wrote:Messi is the best defender out there. When trying to take the ball off you, he will. I’m sure if you put him at left-back he would be the same.
Fraudiola wrote:The best is Messi. Messi is [the best] number nine, number 10, number 11, number seven, number six, number five, number four…
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:57 am

this game - barca was happy to let Napoli have all the ball and still be so dangerous in counter attack everytime they push forward - so ruthless in finishing also something napoli lacked. they did ok in first few mins then fell off after first goal - and lacked imagination and final product like barca did.

well deserved win by barca

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Post by Thimmy Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:31 am

Casciavit wrote:Messi so good at nicking the ball ffs when he actually presses he's the best in the world at it


The RM section said the same thing about CR7 at one point in time, and he showcased it for almost a full match during his one man show in the second leg against Wolfsburg. They both might've been great at it, if they consistently had the motivation to do so, but it matters little since they don't, in my opinion.
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Post by Casciavit Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:22 am

Yeah, Messi being an excellent presser isn't a new take. It's been known for the better part of a decade, it's just that he does it so rarely that when he does do it you are surprised by how effective he is at doing it. Laughing

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Casciavit wrote:Messi so good at nicking the ball ffs when he actually presses he's the best in the world at it


The RM section said the same thing about CR7 at one point in time, and he showcased it for almost a full match during his one man show in the second leg against Wolfsburg. They both might've been great at it, if they consistently had the motivation to do so, but it matters little since they don't, in my opinion.

I wonder what makes them so good at it. When I look at it from a physical standpoint, I can say that Messi's quick burst of acceleration and the way he pounces at them aggressively with his low centre of gravity helps him out. On the other hand, Ronaldo has longer legs and the strength to catch defenders by surprise.

But when I look at it from another perspective, I believe that maybe it's because defenders don't actually expect them to challenge for the ball so they end up getting surprised when they do. Then again there's the old adage that elite players are elite at anything if they put their mind to it. It can be a mix of reasons.

As for their lack of defending, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Yes, they're lazy and the reason they don't defend is to save themselves for the decisive attacking actions. Paradoxically though, having those two play ahead of the ball when defending aids their own team as well. Opposing teams become scared of playing their fullback higher because they don't want to be caught on the counterattack by those two. I believe Fergie told Ronaldo to stop defending around 2007 or so because he wanted him high up the pitch in case of a counterattack.

Teams responded by not playing their fullback on Ronaldo's side as high and that helped United as opposing teams had one less player attacking them. Honestly, if there's an effective attacking framework to get the best out of their talents their teams can get away with them not defending. The problem with Barca is that they haven't done that in the past few years while Madrid did that superbly from 2016-2018.
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