Re: 2019/2020 Premier League Discussion: Chapter II

by Nishankly Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:32 pm

Unique wrote:
Nishankly wrote:
Unique wrote:
as much as we have improved as a team as much as klopp has turned things around we still cant beat these bums ffs. like we cant even have a game where we play well against them. its a joke tbh.

We don't have a plan B especially when our plan B is putting Origi in.

United turned up they only way they could get something out of this game and its worked in this favor. We are not good enough to win these crucial games, I have already had this discussion with most you. This is exactly why we lose the league. 13 players squad, what change can anyone bring other than individual talent?
if after 4 years in charge and a brand new squad klopp and this team are not good enough to beat these bums then he should get sacked. we have miles more talent than them and a better manager. the problem is we still bottle it in this game.

United will never play 5 at the back ever in their life other than against us.

by Unique Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:37 pm

ref stopping the game for manure now. though the ref could only stop the game for a head injury.

by Nishankly Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:39 pm

Unique wrote:ref stopping the game for manure now. though the ref could only stop the game for a head injury.

He couldn't stop it for Origi's foul. What a fucking *bleep*. Old Trafford is back lmao

by Unique Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:43 pm

how can the best team in europe have 1 injury away from having to rely on origi. Laughing

by Firenze Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:44 pm

Fred just always looks like he's taken 10 caffeine pills and drank a case of Monster before every game

all he does is run around looking like a jobber

by Thimmy Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:46 pm

Unique wrote:
Nishankly wrote:
Unique wrote:
as much as we have improved as a team as much as klopp has turned things around we still cant beat these bums ffs. like we cant even have a game where we play well against them. its a joke tbh.

We don't have a plan B especially when our plan B is putting Origi in.

United turned up they only way they could get something out of this game and its worked in this favor. We are not good enough to win these crucial games, I have already had this discussion with most you. This is exactly why we lose the league. 13 players squad, what change can anyone bring other than individual talent?
if after 4 years in charge and a brand new squad klopp and this team are not good enough to beat these bums then he should get sacked. we have miles more talent than them and a better manager. the problem is we still bottle it in this game.

I think if your team had been miles better and your coach was miles better as well, then there’d be no chance you wouldn’t win this. But I guess I have a reputation for having some kind of mancrush on Ole, so let’s say Man Utd actually have the better individual players and Liverpool have the better coach Laughing

Honestly, though, I think the situation is a lot more nuanced than people want to believe.

by Nishankly Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:46 pm

LMAO we kick the ball out for James but they score on the same level with Origi down. GTFO

by Hapless_Hans Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:46 pm

Unique wrote:how can the best team in europe have 1 injury away from having to rely on origi.

and then rely on Oxlade Chamberlain to change the game lmao

your squad depth is ridiculously bad

Keita didn't die for this

by Nishankly Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:47 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Unique wrote:how can the best team in europe have 1 injury away from having to rely on origi.

and then rely on Oxlade Chamberlain to change the game lmao

your squad depth is ridiculously bad

Keita didn't die for this

This has been obvious since 2018. Unique complaining about it now is not something all of us including Unique don't know.

by Unique Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:48 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Unique wrote:how can the best team in europe have 1 injury away from having to rely on origi.

and then rely on Oxlade Chamberlain to change the game lmao

your squad depth is ridiculously bad

Keita didn't die for this

i wish i could blame klopp for the small squad but i cant Laughing

by Hapless_Hans Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:48 pm

Thimmy wrote:
Unique wrote:
Nishankly wrote:

We don't have a plan B especially when our plan B is putting Origi in.

United turned up they only way they could get something out of this game and its worked in this favor. We are not good enough to win these crucial games, I have already had this discussion with most you. This is exactly why we lose the league. 13 players squad, what change can anyone bring other than individual talent?
if after 4 years in charge and a brand new squad klopp and this team are not good enough to beat these bums then he should get sacked. we have miles more talent than them and a better manager. the problem is we still bottle it in this game.

I think if your team had been miles better and your coach was miles better as well, then there’d be no chance you wouldn’t win this. But I guess I have a reputation for having some kind of mancrush on Ole, so let’s say Man Utd actually have the better individual players and Liverpool have the better coach

For Utd, this game is like some 4th division club that gets visited by FC Bayern in the cup

If that 4th division club had also spent like 750m on players

by Thimmy Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:48 pm

It’s not as if United have superior depth..

by Hapless_Hans Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:50 pm

wonder if anyone is going to call out Firmino

he gets lauded so much for his good games, deservedly so, but he picks his terrible games too, quite often

by Nishankly Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:50 pm

Thimmy wrote:It’s not as if United have superior depth..

United don't need to win, we do. I'd love playing Gomez and a 5 man back with Salah injured. Can we?

by Hapless_Hans Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:50 pm

Thimmy wrote:It’s not as if United have superior depth..

They have Golden Ball winner 80m buy Martial on the bench so yes.

by Nishankly Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:53 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:wonder if anyone is going to call out Firmino

he gets lauded so much for his good games, deservedly so, but he picks his terrible games too, quite often

He is the system. He isn't perfect. Not quite often. The games you think he's been shite, he's the one dropping deep to make space where Salah would assist Mane or Mane/Salah running into space into the center to score. See the games and goals before judging the poor guy.

by Thimmy Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Thimmy wrote:It’s not as if United have superior depth..

They have Golden Ball winner 80m buy Martial on the bench so yes.

He just returned from a fairly lengthy injury and would normally be a starter. You’re also clearly flattering him by calling him a golden ball winner. Might as well call him a WC winner.

by Unique Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:56 pm

and lallana comes on to make things worst :facepalm:

by Hapless_Hans Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:56 pm

Nishankly wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:wonder if anyone is going to call out Firmino

he gets lauded so much for his good games, deservedly so, but he picks his terrible games too, quite often

He is the system. He isn't perfect. Not quite often. The games you think he's been shite, he's the one dropping deep to make space where Salah would assist Mane or Mane/Salah running into space into the center to score. See the games and goals before judging the poor guy.

I don't call him shit for dropping deep.
I call him shit for having lazy, sloppy touches, making rash and poor decisions, making underhit and poorly timed layoffs and passes, and being quite generally an unfortunate figure.

by Unique Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:57 pm

this ref is giving them everything Mad

by Nishankly Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:58 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Nishankly wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:wonder if anyone is going to call out Firmino

he gets lauded so much for his good games, deservedly so, but he picks his terrible games too, quite often

He is the system. He isn't perfect. Not quite often. The games you think he's been shite, he's the one dropping deep to make space where Salah would assist Mane or Mane/Salah running into space into the center to score. See the games and goals before judging the poor guy.

I don't call him shit for dropping deep.
I call him shit for having lazy, sloppy touches, making rash and poor decisions, making underhit and poorly timed layoffs and passes, and being quite generally an unfortunate figure.

He does a lot of times, he still has 9 assists this season. He's been bad tonight similar to everyone. If I had my way, I wanted a new ST where Firmino would drop as the CAM.

by Thimmy Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:58 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Nishankly wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:wonder if anyone is going to call out Firmino

he gets lauded so much for his good games, deservedly so, but he picks his terrible games too, quite often

He is the system. He isn't perfect. Not quite often. The games you think he's been shite, he's the one dropping deep to make space where Salah would assist Mane or Mane/Salah running into space into the center to score. See the games and goals before judging the poor guy.

I don't call him shit for dropping deep.
I call him shit for having lazy, sloppy touches, making rash and poor decisions, making underhit and poorly timed layoffs and passes, and being quite generally an unfortunate figure.

Your golden boy, Pogba does all of that far more often than Firmino does, and you do nothing but praise him hmm