Sevilla vs Real Madrid

When Sevilla wins this, I wonder if this would be categorised as Zidane trying to prove a point to the board as well

we need to win this, take full advantage of this time where barcelona are dropping points. a draw just won't do, i hope we beat them, hell i'll take a dull 1 nil win even

Doc wrote:When Sevilla wins this, I wonder if this would be categorised as Zidane trying to prove a point to the board as well

That would be ironic, considering he'd be left with 0 points

Carlo lost the plot in his later milan days. Wonder if the same is transpiring here with Zidane.

So many questionable things have occurred since last I was here... Zidane lost the plot due to his obsesson with pogba?

Regardless, We cannot afford to lose or draw. this must be a win.

though with how this team is playing in general, I cannot see a triumph. too many issues that hasn't been dealt with. tbis is gonna be a long couple months until January.

Stars are aligned for a Chicharito double with a regi assist

Turok_TTZ wrote:Carlo lost the plot in his later milan days. Wonder if the same is transpiring here with Zidane.

We are having the same problem as that Milan team. They had a great run, and when the legs start to grow old, they forgot to replace them.

Call me disloyal to legends but my unpopular opinion is that if a club wants to stray big, it cannot satisfy legends till they retire, it's not 2007 anymore. Younger and tougher players run riots around you and you cannot keep a 36 years old left back as a starter just cause he is a club legend. Teams like Bilbao, Roma, Lazio or Everton can afford it, they are not pressured to stay at the top. Teams like Juventus, Chelsea or Real Madrid and Barca, will fall behind if they stick with the players that are getting old.

I'm not saying that a player +33 should leave, but instead they should slowly consider moving down the pecking order i.e. Iniesta in his last season.

@ StrugaRock i agree completely.

The team takes to long to let players go. You value players but you have to put the team first.

The coach needs put kinship aside as well

StrugaRock wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Carlo lost the plot in his later milan days. Wonder if the same is transpiring here with Zidane.

We are having the same problem as that Milan team. They had a great run, and when the legs start to grow old, they forgot to replace them.

Call me disloyal to legends but my unpopular opinion is that if a club wants to stray big, it cannot satisfy legends till they retire, it's not 2007 anymore. Younger and tougher players run riots around you and you cannot keep a 36 years old left back as a starter just cause he is a club legend. Teams like Bilbao, Roma, Lazio or Everton can afford it, they are not pressured to stay at the top. Teams like Juventus, Chelsea or Real Madrid and Barca, will fall behind if they stick with the players that are getting old.

I'm not saying that a player +33 should leave, but instead they should slowly consider moving down the pecking order i.e. Iniesta in his last season.

I agree, but I would also like to point out that we do have lots of talented kids. IMO, this is all on Zidane and stubbornness of sticking with the old guard. He insists on a starting 11,  12 or 13 and the rest only get minutes with injuries and fatigue.

He has yet to realize that talented kids need game time minutes to develop plus you can’t compete in 3 competitions with 11,  12 or 13 players.

I do agree a coaching chance will not resolve this, esp. if it is asshole Mourinho.

@Stugarock

I personally don't think it's disloyal. We'll always love these guys as much as you can love a total stranger. But Real Madrid did not stay on top so long being sentimental. Legends come, legends go, Real Madrid stays and no one is bigger than the club.

I think people currently running forgot about that premise.

Fútbol Total
XI REAL MADRID vs Sevilla: Courtois; Carvajal, Varane, Ramos, Mendy; Kroos, Casemiro, James; Hazard, Benzema, Bale. #LaLiga 21:00

Good thing we’re rewarding the no effort plebs for their performance Wednesday

The final free kick Sevilla had pretty much exemplified the match in its entirety: looks promising but in the end, lacked the quality necessary.

That being said, I expect a loss so this result is going good so far as far I am concerned.

Why are we passing like noobs.

What happened to these players.?

Sevilla are working hard and pressing us well (our kryptonite), but man, they lack quality players these days. We might be able to get away with something from this match.

nice, now lets hold unto this

solution to Courtois... defend so well that he doesn't have to make a single save or a single intervention in the air lol.

Despite that, he still made me nervous.

good win, good defensive performance from everyone

StrugaRock wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:Carlo lost the plot in his later milan days. Wonder if the same is transpiring here with Zidane.

We are having the same problem as that Milan team. They had a great run, and when the legs start to grow old, they forgot to replace them.

Call me disloyal to legends but my unpopular opinion is that if a club wants to stray big, it cannot satisfy legends till they retire, it's not 2007 anymore. Younger and tougher players run riots around you and you cannot keep a 36 years old left back as a starter just cause he is a club legend. Teams like Bilbao, Roma, Lazio or Everton can afford it, they are not pressured to stay at the top. Teams like Juventus, Chelsea or Real Madrid and Barca, will fall behind if they stick with the players that are getting old.

I'm not saying that a player +33 should leave, but instead they should slowly consider moving down the pecking order i.e. Iniesta in his last season.

I agree but the loyslty factor which Carlo favors which has also been passed down to Zidane is what helps bring out the best in a player. confidence is a major variable of the game.that same loyalty is what got us 3 cls in a row after all.

However I do agree we need to be more pragmatic. no amount of confidence is going to fix age. though there are exceptions...

in any case Benzema 5/10 would not watch again.

While Benzema does honor the shirt he wears, he still needs to do more. much more. but at the very least, he has more hustle than the rest of this clown team. need more hustle from everyone.else. we still well below what we're expected of

Mr Nick09 wrote:good win, good defensive performance from everyone

Same. Don't think any more needs to be added.

No complaints from today everyone did well defensively. Actually one complaint. Lucas Ocampos. What an absolute c*nt diving everywhere.

Perucho21 wrote:No complaints from today everyone did well defensively. Actually one complaint. Lucas Ocampos. What an absolute c*nt diving everywhere.

Hey. Ex-Monaco and ex-OM. Type of player you hate to play against because he's a pest who never stops running.

Also, despite his flaws, he's better than Lucas Vasquez.

On the flip side, Mendy was wonderful with his defensive contribution. Can we have a Mendy for the right please?