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Post by Chad31 Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:46 am

Benzema isn't reliable indeed should be in the MLS with killer scorer higuain.

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Post by sportsczy Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:00 am

He's as reliable as any striker gets over the past 3 years.  The issue is that, of the elite teams, he has the least support.  He's literally been given children + lucas vasquez as his frontline teammates.  Isco has disappeared.  Bale and Hazard have been perma-injured.  Jovic has done nothing.  Etc.

Other than him, Real Madrid have no attacking threat... which is strange.

Best striker in the world imo all things considered. Not the best scorer... but the best player who plays striker.
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Post by M99 Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:31 am

sportsczy wrote:He's as reliable as any striker gets over the past 3 years.  The issue is that, of the elite teams, he has the least support.  He's literally been given children + lucas vasquez as his frontline teammates.  Isco has disappeared.  Bale and Hazard have been perma-injured.  Jovic has done nothing.  Etc.

Other than him, Real Madrid have no attacking threat... which is strange.

Best striker in the world imo all things considered. Not the best scorer... but the best player who plays striker.


He is great but no man, he is not better than Lewandowski.
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Post by rincon Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:42 am

Not better than Ibra either, or Kane.
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Post by Perucho21 Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:10 am

Disagree.

While Lewandowski is making his silly little tiktoks, Benzema is out ballin like a true CF

https://youtu.be/6HDFlyuJ-q4
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:34 am

Lewa is arguably the better scorer but benz runs the whole attack for madrid, the dude is playing with toddlers and relegation level wingers, yet looks great AND is making them look great.

Kane... no fucking way man, i see an argument for ibra MAYBE, but Kane.. you drunk or something?
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Post by rincon Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:12 am

Too early to be drunk. Kane is doing more, for a worse team, against stronger teams. Shouldn't be a controversial opinion. Also shouldn't be arguable that Lewandowski was absolutely the best CF this year.
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Post by Varnagel Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:02 am

This stat is even more impressive for Benzema when you take penalties into account.

Cristiano: 26/30 goals from penalties

Benzema: 8/8 goals from penalties




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Post by Chad31 Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:45 am

Since BBC trio separated:

Cristiano: 81 Goals. 19 Assists.
Benzema: 67 Goals. 25 Assists.
Bale: 19 Goals. 9 Assists.

So unreliable imagine if benzema could enslave the team like cr to pad his Stat.

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Post by Thimmy Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:11 pm

sportsczy wrote:Not the best scorer...


That was my only point.


OH, Chad and Varangel re-appear at the same time. I'm surprised Rolling Eyes
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Post by Varnagel Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:03 pm

M99 wrote:
sportsczy wrote:He's as reliable as any striker gets over the past 3 years.  The issue is that, of the elite teams, he has the least support.  He's literally been given children + lucas vasquez as his frontline teammates.  Isco has disappeared.  Bale and Hazard have been perma-injured.  Jovic has done nothing.  Etc.

Other than him, Real Madrid have no attacking threat... which is strange.

Best striker in the world imo all things considered.  Not the best scorer... but the best player who plays striker.


He is great but no man, he is not better than Lewandowski.

Lewy is clearly the better goalscorer, although Benzema is a great scorer too.

Benzema is easily better than Lewy everything else.

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Post by M99 Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:20 pm

rincon wrote:Too early to be drunk. Kane is doing more, for a worse team, against stronger teams. Shouldn't be a controversial opinion. Also shouldn't be arguable that Lewandowski was absolutely the best CF this year.


Hilarious people still act like the its 2015 and Kane is a "one season wonder." He is doing everything you could possibly ask of a player and then some more this season. Recently been missing easy chances but that does not change that especially when Benzema also has a history of that.

And Lewandowski has excellent off the ball movement and link up play, so no scoring is not the only thing he is better at than Benzema.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:40 pm

There would no doubts about Lewandowski's quality if he were born in Western Europe
#SayNoToRacism
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:01 pm

The problem is not that he's eastern european Laughing It's that he plays in the Bayern Munich Training league
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Post by sportsczy Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:49 pm

M99 wrote:
sportsczy wrote:He's as reliable as any striker gets over the past 3 years.  The issue is that, of the elite teams, he has the least support.  He's literally been given children + lucas vasquez as his frontline teammates.  Isco has disappeared.  Bale and Hazard have been perma-injured.  Jovic has done nothing.  Etc.

Other than him, Real Madrid have no attacking threat... which is strange.

Best striker in the world imo all things considered.  Not the best scorer... but the best player who plays striker.


He is great but no man, he is not better than Lewandowski.

Lewa has Gnabry, Coman, Mueller, etc.  Benz has.... Lucas Vasquez and Vini/Rodrygo.
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rincon wrote:Too early to be drunk. Kane is doing more, for a worse team, against stronger teams. Shouldn't be a controversial opinion. Also shouldn't be arguable that Lewandowski was absolutely the best CF this year.


Hilarious people still act like the its 2015 and Kane is a "one season wonder." He is doing everything you could possibly ask of a player and then some more this season. Recently been missing easy chances but that does not change that especially when Benzema also has a history of that.

And Lewandowski has excellent off the ball movement and link up play, so no scoring is not the only thing he is better at than Benzema.  

Who is playing next to Lewa?  Who is playing next to Benzema?  What leagues do each play with?

Not to mention Lewa acting as a decoy in the big CL games.  Not even DM-worthy in those.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:58 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:The problem is not that he's eastern european Laughing It's that he plays in the Bayern Munich Training league

Excuse me we poles consider ourselves central european hmm
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Post by BarcaLearning Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:01 pm

Always said Benzema is a top all round player, more so than a traditional striker, even someone said hes a no.10 forgot who said it. I dont think u can really name another striker who has as good as an all round game than him out there? His link up play and work for the team is so underrated. I still remember many ppl disregard these strengths because he just does score enough.

And hes also kept improving after all the criticism and especially after CR left in order to step up with the goal demands.
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Post by Varnagel Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:48 pm

M99 wrote:
rincon wrote:Too early to be drunk. Kane is doing more, for a worse team, against stronger teams. Shouldn't be a controversial opinion. Also shouldn't be arguable that Lewandowski was absolutely the best CF this year.


Hilarious people still act like the its 2015 and Kane is a "one season wonder." He is doing everything you could possibly ask of a player and then some more this season. Recently been missing easy chances but that does not change that especially when Benzema also has a history of that.

And Lewandowski has excellent off the ball movement and link up play, so no scoring is not the only thing he is better at than Benzema.  


Benzema definitely has fair share of misses, but he doesn't waste more chances than any other forward. The truth is everyone have a history of doing that. Even someone like Lewandowski has delivered missed sitters from point-blank range from last season and he's the best goalscorer itw.




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Post by M99 Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:06 pm

sportsczy wrote:
M99 wrote:
sportsczy wrote:He's as reliable as any striker gets over the past 3 years.  The issue is that, of the elite teams, he has the least support.  He's literally been given children + lucas vasquez as his frontline teammates.  Isco has disappeared.  Bale and Hazard have been perma-injured.  Jovic has done nothing.  Etc.

Other than him, Real Madrid have no attacking threat... which is strange.

Best striker in the world imo all things considered.  Not the best scorer... but the best player who plays striker.


He is great but no man, he is not better than Lewandowski.

Lewa has Gnabry, Coman, Mueller, etc.  Benz has.... Lucas Vasquez and Vini/Rodrygo.
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rincon wrote:Too early to be drunk. Kane is doing more, for a worse team, against stronger teams. Shouldn't be a controversial opinion. Also shouldn't be arguable that Lewandowski was absolutely the best CF this year.


Hilarious people still act like the its 2015 and Kane is a "one season wonder." He is doing everything you could possibly ask of a player and then some more this season. Recently been missing easy chances but that does not change that especially when Benzema also has a history of that.

And Lewandowski has excellent off the ball movement and link up play, so no scoring is not the only thing he is better at than Benzema.  

Who is playing next to Lewa?  Who is playing next to Benzema?  What leagues do each play with?

Not to mention Lewa acting as a decoy in the big CL games.  Not even DM-worthy in those.


He is also the best player of a treble winning team and the FIFA World Player Of The Year. Him having better players beside him does not undermine his case when his achievements are that much higher.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:09 pm

FIFA player of the year is a joke of an award and you know it.

Winning anything with Bayern in Germany is like PSG winning anything in France. In CL, he had little to no impact in the playoffs in Portugal... he wasn't even on the podium of best players for Bayern in those games.


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Post by S Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:10 pm

Myesyats wrote:There would no doubts about Lewandowski's quality if he were born in Western Europe
#SayNoToRacism


Modric isn't from Western Europe and he won the Ballon D'or coming off a great international tournament something we haven't heard or seen from Lewa doing something similar. Could be wrong but dont remember anything remarkable or special from Lewa at NT level. Even Zlatan with a poor Sweden team had memorable performances for his NT.

Usually he's only lighting it up against pub teams in Bundesliga and the Champions league

Although you could say he'd have better recognition if he was feasting on those similar pub teams in La Liga for example
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Post by M99 Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:12 pm

sportsczy wrote:FIFA player of the year is a joke of an award and you know it.


Oh so he won it undeservedly Laughing Who should have won then?
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Post by sportsczy Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:17 pm

M99 wrote:
sportsczy wrote:FIFA player of the year is a joke of an award and you know it.  


Oh so he won it undeservedly Laughing Who should have won then?

Winning anything with Bayern in Germany is like PSG winning anything in France. In CL, he had little to no impact in the playoffs in Portugal... he wasn't even on the podium of best players for Bayern in those games.

They were going to give it to someone on Bayern because that's how it goes... I personally would have picked CR.  He carried Juve during the Sarri disaster. Even when Juve got knocked out by Lyon, he scored 2 goals. CR was never absent in any of the big moments.
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Post by Doc Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:15 am

Kane is the best striker in the world and I'm not even sure that should even be up for discussion. I mean, the same thing Benzema is given credit for, Kane does it better but for Spurs.

Any bashing of Lewa and Bundesliga usually is welcomed but being the best(?) performer in a treble winning team does help in these type of arguments.

That being said, yeah, Big Ben has performed quite well so far and should be considered in the best CF in the world talk.

Chad31 wrote:Since BBC trio separated:

Cristiano: 81 Goals. 19 Assists.
Benzema: 67 Goals. 25 Assists.
Bale: 19 Goals. 9 Assists.

So unreliable imagine if benzema could enslave the team like cr to pad his Stat.


I am happy Ronaldo was padding his stats as Madrid was not winning 4 fucking CL titles in 5 years without him.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:52 am

Kane does not do anything better for the Spurs other than the poaching part. Come on now. He's a top striker. But he is not in that top top echelon due to his less-than-elite technical skills. He's like Higuain basically.

And to be fair Doc, CR had Benzema and a functioning Gareth Bale. Benzema has toddlers and Lucas Vasquez.

Not that I'm saying Benz is in CR's league AT ALL. He's not of course. However, CR had younger versions of our best players and great attacking teammates. Heck, Isco was Isco back then too. So it's not like we're comparing apples to apples here.
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Post by Clutch Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:04 am

There is not a single forward who has better link up play than Benzema. Take away goal scoring and Lewandowski and Kane wouldnt even be in the convo with Benzema in terms of link up play and creating

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