The fortress of Old Trafford is protected and defended by referees

I had no clue people were still taking barcalearning seriously in this day and age

People must have forgotten about The Great Debates (circa 2015) jibers clinics on barcalearning on a biweekly basis

CBarca wrote:I had no clue people were still taking barcalearning seriously in this day and age

People must have forgotten about The Great Debates (circa 2015) jibers clinics on barcalearning on a biweekly basis

man you have some front

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

BarcaLearning wrote:Nothing new here, has been like that for years at Man U, same as Real in La Liga, they get more favourable calls, especially at home, consistently.

I would've probably let it slide if it was coming from a Girona or Las Palmas fan, but a Barcelona fan? No offense, but you absolutely have no legs to stand on.

You guys won a CL not too long ago after knocking out Chelsea in a game that was branded the scandal of the century.

I'm not going to stand here and pretend that Madrid have never won through controversial refereeing decisions. We certainly have, just like any other big team for that matter. But let's not act as though Barcelona is the mother of all that is good and pure. You guys have won undeservedly countless times, and you are absolutely in no position to cry about injustice. Leave that to your players who have developed an an unparalleled habit of surrounding the referee to complain about every single call that doesn't go their way or influence him to red card someone from the opposition.

+1

Hapless_Hans wrote:

CBarca wrote:Expected nothing less than to see this after a Liverpool loss.

Fits.

This thread is not only about today's Liverpool loss. That loss is not a shocking singualarity, but merely part of a series that has long since been engrained into the Premier League.

So I wonder, why do all those other rival fans of Man United, the Arsenal, Spurs, City fans, don't join in solidarity here?
Why the bitching?

I tell you what it is:

Stockholm Syndrome.

All of you have been victimized by Man United's grip on refereeing and their preferential treatment at Old Trafford.
Everytime you play there, your team is better but, oh well, a lucky goal here and there for United, and a penalty shout here and there, and then another 2 or three, not given for your team.
Start speaking out you cowards and opportunists.

You are funny Hapless. In a good way.

For example, a Watford defender just brutally slid into Mkhi's ankle inside Watford's penalty box, no penalty given even if it was blatant.

You seriously think that would happen at Old Trafford? They'd get a penalty 10/10 times.

CBarca wrote:I had no clue people were still taking barcalearning seriously in this day and age

People must have forgotten about The Great Debates (circa 2015) jibers clinics on barcalearning on a biweekly basis

Leave @barcalearning alone you bully

He is a poster who makes serious, thoughtful posts that deal with topics of concern and express well-formulated opinion.

While the rest of the forum has regressed to making endlessly repetitive, moronic, mechanical attempts to find the most silly and nonsensical way of combining the words "fraud" and "brexit"

Hapless_Hans wrote:

CBarca wrote:I had no clue people were still taking barcalearning seriously in this day and age

People must have forgotten about The Great Debates (circa 2015) jibers clinics on barcalearning on a biweekly basis

Leave @barcalearning alone you bully

He is a poster who makes serious, thoughtful posts that deal with topics of concern and express well-formulated opinion.

While the rest of the forum has regressed to making endlessly repetitive, moronic, mechanical attempts to find the most silly and nonsensical way of combining the words "fraud" and "brexit"

Oh why thank you Hans And where has your love gone CBarca, jibers I miss him too, he was full of sh*t like some posters who thinks they know it all tbh, but I guess that partly makes GL so entertaining as well as good place to learn and update on football

Hapless_Hans wrote:For example, a Watford defender just brutally slid into Mkhi's ankle inside Watford's penalty box, no penalty given even if it was blatant.

You seriously think that would happen at Old Trafford? They'd get a penalty 10/10 times.

Yeah, most likely. But you are like my mother. She observes only what she wants to observe, only the negative aspects about me and she exaggerates them. Same with you and Man United. You don't mention the moments when Man United is disadvantaged or when other teams benefit from a preferential attitude from the refs. And not necessarily in games that United is involved. I am talking about the other matches too.

For example, at Huddersfield a few weeks ago we scored a perfectly valid goal and somehow the ref decided to come back and disallow it for absolutely no reason. But we didn't complain about it because this is the way things happen sometimes.

Or a few years back, a scandalous decision from Cuneyt Cakir when he sent off Nani for something that should've been max a yellow. I've seen at least 200 harder challenges not even punished with a yellow since that situation. Where is the justice? Man United was outplaying Real Madrid in that match but Cuneyt Cakir wanted Real Madrid to qualify. Sir Alex didn't even show up at the press conference and nobody made a big deal after that situation. Nowadays people talk about other infamous games but nobody says "that Man United team should've been in the quarter finals". Final year of Ferguson, a team with an amazing spirit, probably a legit challenger for the UCL title in that season. At least Mourinho said after the match that "the better team lost today".

Ander Herrera sent off last season at Stamford Bridge in the FA Cup with two yellow cards in the first half for 2 fouls at Hazard that were actually two dives of the Belgian. It was the only thing that helped Chelsea win that game...nobody complained about it. If it would have been someone from Chelsea sent off for those two situations we would've seen 15 threads on Goal Legacy about it and half of the Premier League articles on the internet about it.

And of course, there are many many other situations. Somewhere there is a balance. It is what it is...we can't control these things, but if you open your eyes you'll see that Man United doesn't have any preferential treatment. It's all very random...sometimes it goes for Man United like sometimes it goes for City, Chelsea, Bayern, Arsenal, Barca, Real, Juve etc. (I don't even want to remember how easy Rafael was sent off in 2010 against Bayern when we were the superior team).


Later Edit:
Because you mentioned Watford...

Last season when we lost at Watford, they scored the 2nd goal I think after a counter attack that started right before one of the players from Watford injured Martial. It was scandalous...you could see that brutal foul from the moon if you wanted to, but the ref decided it should be Watford's day. Martial was immediately subbed off and was unavailable for a few weeks. Nobody says anything about this except some Man United fans or Mourinho. That mistake completely changed the game and influenced the final result. We have to accept it.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

While the rest of the forum has regressed to making endlessly repetitive, moronic, mechanical attempts to find the most silly and nonsensical way of combining the words "fraud" and "brexit"

You're a fraud and we need Brexit.

When's VAR finally coming to Britain? This is nauseating stuff.

not even 2 minutes played in the new season.. here we go again

That was a pen though. Wasn't a ball to hand at all.

Hans already weeping. I love it. Our player could get crippled in the box and Hans would be complaining we were gifted a penalty

handball penalties are never called anywhere else in the PL except at Old Trafford against the visitors

Smalling does stuff like this thrice a game without penalty

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3582725/manchester-united-and-liverpool-finishes-flipped-in-2017-18-premier-league-table-adjusted-for-luck

there you have it.

Now Marriner is standing in the way intentionally to disrupt Leicester's tiki taka

Hapless_Hans wrote:

CBarca wrote:I had no clue people were still taking barcalearning seriously in this day and age

People must have forgotten about The Great Debates (circa 2015) jibers clinics on barcalearning on a biweekly basis

Leave @barcalearning alone you bully

He is a poster who makes serious, thoughtful posts that deal with topics of concern and express well-formulated opinion.

While the rest of the forum has regressed to making endlessly repetitive, moronic, mechanical attempts to find the most silly and nonsensical way of combining the words "fraud" and "brexit"

Just seen this now, that's not a bad point tbh, agree with it like 75%

Every single game. Every time. Disgusting stuff.

Was just about to bump this

100% clear pen. we all know futbol is not a contact sport. disgusting EPL

Nothing in it. Hans complaining that fouls are too soft in the league until he has an agenda ffs. Stahp.

I read Man United scored another offside goal to equalize vs Arsenal, oh look

nope

Fellaini pulling Guendouzi back by the hair, with a huge amount of jealousy and regret surely, and not even a yellow?

Goal for the opponent ruled out, nothing penalty gifted

Unbelievable stuff