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Post by Thimmy Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:17 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Rainbow six looks like a tactical shooter. There's more tactical shooters out there nowadays than casual ones by the looks of it. It's off putting for people who don't want to play on huge boring maps with limited weapon selection. Cod needs more competition imo.


More tactical shooters than casual ones? Name me one other tactical shooter on console Laughing

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Post by RealGunner Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:24 pm

There aren't any huge boring maps on siege.
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Post by Onyx Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:35 pm

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Yohan Modric wrote:Rainbow six looks like a tactical shooter. There's more tactical shooters out there nowadays than casual ones by the looks of it. It's off putting for people who don't want to play on huge boring maps with limited weapon selection. Cod needs more competition imo.




More tactical shooters than casual ones? Name me one other tactical shooter on console Laughing


Battlefield, Battlefront, Evolve etc. tongue

Why can't someone just create a simplistic FPS in the mould of COD? I'm sure there's a lot of other people who can't adapt to other shooters because COD's been their primary FPS for years.

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Post by Kaladin Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:00 pm

How's LoL with you mt hmm
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Post by Lord Spencer Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:06 pm

Dishonored and Fallout are not remotely comparable.

Fallout's gameplay and combat is closer to Minecraft than Dishonored.
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Post by Onyx Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:28 pm

ES wrote:How's LoL with you mt hmm


Haven't started it yet. hmm

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Post by Jonathan28 Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:34 pm

For the few of us here on Xbox the winter sale is starting tomorrow. It lasts for 17 days and it will consist of weekly deals and daily deals. The first set of weekly deals are;

• 200,000 VC (NBA 2K16 DLC) - $49.99 --> $42.49
• 35,000 VC (NBA 2K16 DLC) - $9.99 --> $8.49
• 75,000 (NBA 2K16 DLC) - $19.99 --> $16.99
• Adventures Of Pip - $14.99 --> $7.50
• Back To The Future: The Game - 30Th Anniversary Edition - $19.99 --> $13.39
• Batman: Arkham Knight Premium Edition - $89.99 --> $53.99
• Batman: Arkham Knight Season Pass - $39.99 --> $25.99
• Batman: Arkham Knight - $49.99 --> $32.49
• Battlefield Bundle - $49.99 --> $29.99
• Borderlands: Handsome Collection - $59.99 --> $24.00
• Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons - $19.99 --> $13.39
• Call Of Duty: Black Ops III Digital Deluxe Edition - $99.99 --> $79.99
• Call Of Duty: Black Ops III - $59.99 --> $49.79
• Destiny: The Taken King - Digital Collector's Edition - $79.99 --> $51.99
• Destiny: The Taken King - Legendary Edition - $59.99 --> $40.19
• Destiny: The Taken King - $39.99 --> $29.99
• Don't Starve: Giant Edition - $14.99 --> $10.04
• Dragon Age: Inquisition - GOTY Edition - $59.99 --> $24.00
• Dragon Age: Inquisition - Trespasser - $14.99 --> $10.04
• Dragon Age: Inquisition - $29.99 --> $17.99
• Dragonball Xenoverse - $39.99 --> $20.00
• Forza Horizon 2 Presents Fast & Furious Digital Edition - $9.99 --> $5.00
• Forza Horizon 2: Storm Island - $19.99 --> $5.00
• Forza Motorsport 5 Alpinestars Car Pack - $9.99 --> $2.50
• Forza Motorsport 5 Bondurant Car Pack - $9.99 --> $2.50
• Forza Motorsport 5 Hot Wheels Car Pack - $9.99 --> $2.50
• Forza Motorsport 5 Top Gear Car Pack - $9.99 --> $2.50
• Forza Motorsport 5: Racing GOTY Edition - $39.99 --> $25.00
• Forza Motorsport 6 And Forza Horizon 2 Bundle - $109.99 --> $73.69
• Forza Motorsport 6 Deluxe Edition - $79.99 --> $63.99
• Forza Motorsport 6 Standard Edition - $59.99 --> $50.99
• Forza Motorsport 6 Ultimate Edition - $99.99 --> $74.99
• Grand Theft Auto V & Great White Shark Cash Card - $79.99 --> $40.00
• Grand Theft Auto V & Megalodon Shark Cash Card Bundle - $159.99 --> $80.00
• Grand Theft Auto V & Whale Shark Cash Card Bundle - $141.49 --> $70.75
• Grand Theft Auto V - $59.99 --> $35.99
• Halo 5: Guardians - Digital Deluxe Edition - $89.99 --> $67.49
• Halo 5: Guardians - $59.99 --> $47.99
• King's Quest : The Complete Collection - $39.99 --> $26.79
• King's Quest Episode 1 - $9.99 --> $1.50
• Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham Deluxe Edition - $34.99 --> $11.55
• Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham - $19.99 --> $6.60
• Lego Marvel Super Heroes - $19.99 --> $5.00
• Lego The Movie Game - $19.99 --> $5.00
• Mad Max - $59.99 --> $40.19
• Madden NFL 16 Deluxe: Season Edition - $79.99 --> $32.00
• Madden NFL 16 - $59.99 --> $24.00
• Minecraft: Story Mode - The Complete Season (Episodes 1-5) - $24.99 --> $18.79
• Multiplayer Character Pack - $19.99 --> $13.39
• NBA 2K16 Michael Jordan Special Edition - $79.99 --> $53.39
• NBA 2K16 - $59.99 --> $44.99
• Need For Speed - $59.99 --> $24.00
• Olliolli - $9.99 --> $3.30
• Ori And The Blind Forest - $19.99 --> $10.00
• Peggle 2 Magical Masters Edition (Peggle 2 DLC) - $14.99 --> $6.00
• Playground Select Car Pack (Forza Horizon 2 DLC) - $4.99 --> $1.25
• Popcap Bundle - $29.99 --> $15.00
• Pro Evolution Soccer 2016: Digital Exclusive Bundle - $59.99 --> $40.19
• Rory Mcilroy Pga Tour - $59.99 --> $30.00
• Sierra Games Collection - $59.99 --> $30.00
• State Of Decay: Year-One Survival Edition - $29.99 --> $15.00
• Super Mega Baseball: Extra Innings - $19.99 --> $13.39
• The Escapists Holiday Bundle - $19.99 --> $10.00
• The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - $49.99 --> $25.00
• Titanfall Deluxe Edition - $19.99 --> $5.00
• Toy Soldiers War Chest: Hall Of Fame Edition - $29.99 --> $17.99
• Toy Soldiers: War Chest - $14.99 --> $8.99
• Transformers: Devastation - $49.99 --> $25.00
• Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy Of The Duelist - $19.99 --> $14.99
• Zoo Tycoon & Screamride Fun Pack - $49.99 --> $29.99

I'm using US prices because ain't no Brit in their right mind going to buy from the UK store, it's a rip off. Buy off the US/Canadian store for much better deals, or if you're willing to go through extra effort to get their Xbox Currency, the Colombian, Hong Kong and Russian Stores are even better.

Note:Games and DLC on the Xbox One are region free(except ones from Mainland China for obvious reasons), meaning that you don't need to create another account to access a different countries store. You just need to change the location on your Xbox, to lets say USA, restart it and you will have access to the US store and it's games. After you purchase the games or DLC you can then switch your location back to your home region, restart the Xbox, and everything you bought will work fine. It is literally that simple.
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Post by Thimmy Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:43 am

RealGunner wrote:There aren't any huge boring maps on siege.


You actually played it? Razz Remember to go to options and set dead zone to 5%.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:04 pm

what does that mean
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Post by Thimmy Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:16 pm

RealGunner wrote:what does that mean


Go to options and locate the dead zone settings. Set it to the minimum, which is 5%. It determines how far you can drag your aim before it starts reacting to your movement with the thumbstick. In other words, it determines the movement delay of your thumbsticks.
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Post by B-Mac Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:46 am

Witcher 3 for 50% off hmm

I'm off work till Jan the 4th for holidays, looking for a game to dive into
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:51 am

ffs buy it asap

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Post by Firenze Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:21 pm

saw this on neogaf

the most insane easter egg in gaming ffs

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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:45 pm

Among many gamers in this site, as well as gamers in general, the SNES represents gaming’s golden age. Its games regularly feature in the greatest of all time discussions, and the console itself some claim to be to the greatest as well. For me, the SNES would always be the special console of my childhood, and that Nostalgia effect will always be strong with me.

However, I wanted to form an unbiased opinion on the console, I wanted to review it based on its own merits far removed from nostalgia. As with any console, this meant I needed to review its games, and be honest about them, even applying them to modern sensibilities as well.

Which is why I started my SNES Reviews blogs, a series in which I reviewed the top 100 SNES games as chosen by IGN. After completing the list, I feel that I am equipped to fully review the SNES.

In this review, I am going to focus on the both the console’s biggest strengths and weaknesses. Then, I will pick the top three game genres, as well as the top three publishers as well.

Console’s Biggest Strengths:

Variety:

If you just take a cursory glance through that IGN list, you will notice a huge variety in games. Not only in genres, but also regarding publishers and styles as well. Clearly, Nintendo has the highest count in that list, but they only account for a fifth of the games, with many other publishers contributing as well.

For players of all tastes, the SNES’s library will manage to somehow satisfy them.

2D Graphics:

Unlike the early 3D polygonal games of the PS1/N64 era, the 16 bit 2D graphics of the SNES era aged very gracefully. In fact, the style now is finding newfound resurgence in the Indie scene, and that is because it still is capable of high beauty.

Carrying on with the theme of variety, we also get a variety of 2D styles, with each publisher having their unique visual flair. For example, not one Nintendo platformer used the same style once. With great difference between the early 3D rendering of Donkey Kong Country, and the crayon styling of Yoshi’s Island.

Music:

Graduating for the limited chip-tunes of the 8-bit era, the 16 bit SNES was capable of much more than the NES in terms of sound capabilities. However, music was still constrained in terms of range and the quality of the sound itself. Hence, composers had to focus on the melody itself, which paid dividends in terms of creating iconic music.

This is the generation where legends such as Nobue Uematsu, Koji Kondo, and Yoko Shimumura created a lot of their best work. In fact, I think music from the SNES has been remixed the most, and celebrated more than anything else.

Of course, music in the SNES era had a lot of responsibility. In RPGs, it needed to provide the emotional backdrop to the story. In action games, the music needed to be interesting to pump you back into action every time. It was the 3rd dimension in the 2D era.

Console’s Biggest Weaknesses:

Memory:


The console’s biggest weakness is without a doubt the limited memory, which is a constraint every generation deals with. However, later generations managed to circumvent it, whether it is the multiple CDs of the PS1, or the installations in the PS360 era.

In the SNES, memory constraints were responsible for limitations in graphics, resolution, size, and a lot of other different elements. Take Final Fantasy 6 for example: reportedly, Squaresoft stuffed all they can in the cartridge, but were forced to leave stuff that they planned.

Narrative and Translation:


I cannot judge the narration of games based on its original Japanese text (which most games in the SNES are), but based on the translation, which is significantly hampered by memory constraints. Since the game’s text is built for Japanes characters which can say more in a given text box than can be said in Latin alphabet, the original narrative might be something better.

However, the translated narrative of many games is simply sub-par. With the exception of the fun narrative of the Squaresoft games, I found the stories in most SNES games to be lacking in depth, character complexities, and everything else we associate with good storytelling.

Short Games:

Not all games in the SNES abandoned the coin dominated Arcade mentality. In fact, a significant portion of gems feel like they depend on artificial difficulty, lack of checkpoints, and lack of saving to pad out really short games.

Some games like Mega Man X and Castlevania are so good, they are replayable by design. However, a lot of games are short in content, and do not offer the stellar experience to make you want to go through them again.

Top Three Genres:

As I said above, there were a lot of genres represented in the SNES. From 2D shooters, to top-down shmups. Games of every genre were made, yet these three genres stood out by far.

Platformers:

When you remember the days of the SNES, you remember the golden age of Platformers. From basic Platformers such as Super Mario World, to Action-Platformers such as Mega Man X. The Platforming genre made the best out of the SNES’s strengths, with stellar graphics, and excellent sound.

In their essence, Platformers are the most basic game type. They all follow similar side-scrolling rule (with a few flipping the scrolling side for an additional twist), and they all use the 2D plane.

However, this constraint was challenged by different publishers, which is why we got a huge variety of 2D Platformers that included many of the best games of the Genre even today.

RPGs:

Since Platfromers are the most basic type of games, and they lack a narrative punch, RPGs aimed to fill in the more complex void. Companies such as Squaresoft wanted to expand the gaming population by expanding what was the most hardcore genre then,

While previous generations had their RPGs, the SNES RPGs were in an entirely different level. Even though they lacked the narrative we come to expect from games today, they were far beyond anything else in the scene, and the music was frankly enough to provide all the needed emotional cues.

Fighting:

While the Arcade influence hurt some game’s design, the Arcade was without a doubt the scene for fighting games. However, the SNES managed to imitate that scene quite well in the console space.

Obviously, the Arcade was still the “it” scene for fighters, but there were many great fighting games on the SNES as well. From the excellent Street Fighter 2, to the blood-less Mortal Kombat. The success of Fighting games on the SNES was a predictor for the death of Arcades in the US, as their most dominate genre managed to find acceptance in the console space.

Top Three Publishers:

In the IGN list, there were at least 30 Unique publishers, but these three were the ones that were clearly dominating. Two developers that narrowly missed, but deserve an honorable mention are Enix, and Konami.

Nintendo:


Spoiler alert; in every Nintendo released platform, Nintendo will undoubtedly be the top publisher in that system. With both quantity titles, and quality titles, Nintendo manages to make great games.
Yet, Nintendo, despite common opinion, do not simply rest on their successes. In fact, they change genres, styles, and gaming ideas more than any other company on the SNES.

From Nintendo alone, you can fill a decent top 20 list that would do justice to the SNES by itself.

Squaresoft:

This was the beginning of the Squaresoft golden age, and every game they touched was pure critical gold. While they don’t have as many titles as other major publishers, Squaresoft focused on getting quality RPGs on the hands of players.

In fact, the RPG genre is synced with Squaresoft’s name, so much that Nintendo asked for their help in making a Super Mario RPG.

Capcom:

Capcom’s excellence can be attributed to their understanding of the console’s strengths. With a major title in each top genre, Capcom provided something good for every kind of player.

However, Capcom’s greatest success story in the SNES must be Street Fighter II. Even though the console space was not the best for fighters, it can be said that Capcom is the most responsible for digging a huge niche for it to flourish in the coming generations.

In Conclusion:

The SNES will always have a special place in my heart, memories of my first gaming days are intertwined with memories of the gray console itself. To this day, I remember the precautions I and my cousins ha in place to protect the fat Power cube from falling down and breaking up.

Today, its greatest games still hold up really well, and are fun to play. It had a lot of variety, and its games aged really well because they relied on solid mechanics and graphics.

While it had its flaws, the SNES truly is a great console with a lot of great games.
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Post by Thimmy Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:09 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:
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Yohan Modric wrote:Rainbow six looks like a tactical shooter. There's more tactical shooters out there nowadays than casual ones by the looks of it. It's off putting for people who don't want to play on huge boring maps with limited weapon selection. Cod needs more competition imo.




More tactical shooters than casual ones? Name me one other tactical shooter on console Laughing


Battlefield, Battlefront, Evolve etc. tongue

Why can't someone just create a simplistic FPS in the mould of COD? I'm sure there's a lot of other people who can't adapt to other shooters because COD's been their primary FPS for years.


Battlefront is the most simplistic game out there, currently Razz I don't know what the official genres for Battlefield and Battlefront are, but they hardly offer complex, tactical decision-making. Mole may think they're action-packed, 3-Dimensional chess games, but they're closer to CoD than anything else. I'm pretty sure Evolve is a genre of it's own.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:20 pm

No I *bleep* don't, stop lying you're boring me with your constant bullshit tbh.
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Post by LeVersacci Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:48 pm

Battlefield is a tactical series lol. Even the spinoff Hardline is tactical (not Rainbow level though)

Battlefront isn't tactical I agree.
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Post by Bellabong Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:07 pm

Real tactics (bait)

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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:10 pm

lmao that's the sort of stuff I used to do back in the days. Kids catching up now Proud
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Post by LeVersacci Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:21 pm

Is that Cruyff academy on CS
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:24 pm

LeVersacci wrote:Is that Cruyff academy on CS


ffs
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Post by Thimmy Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:41 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No I *bleep* don't, stop lying you're boring me with your constant bullshit tbh.


But you said the witcher 3 was a tactical FPS game hmm
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Post by Jonathan28 Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:15 am

I decided to get Ori and the Blind Forest in the sale because it was cheap and I wanted to see what the hub hub was about. It's a 2D platformer so I wasn't expecting much from it at all, I actually regretted buying it whilst it was still downloading, but holy shit this game, this *bleeping* game. The music, the art style,  the story and surprisingly the gameplay are amazing.

And the prologue, holy shit the prologue....

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Best prologue in a video game ever, period. I cannot remember the last time a game evoked such emotion out of me. If you're on PC or Xbox get this damn game, it's 100 times better then all the AAA *bleeping* garbage we've been fed this gen.

Ori is my GOTY, actually, no, it's my GOTG (Game of the Gen), if only because it reminded me what it feels like to play a good game. *bleep* the shit we've had to play these past years.
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Post by Bellabong Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:58 am

So has anyone ever bought a Sony/Microsoft controller new and it's just plain broken?

How does a controller which has no X rotation (left/right on right analogue stick) values get past QA?

Get to raise hell at Media Markt tomorrow morning though; they sold me an obviously refurbished product (controller with broken input should not make it through QA) and it was the pre June 2015 model (without the headphone jack)

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Post by Bellabong Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:57 am

Moal what's your steam so I can throw this at you

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(Battlefront 2 of course, not every single Star Wars game)
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Post by RealGunner Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:15 am

Jonathan28 wrote:I decided to get Ori and the Blind Forest in the sale because it was cheap and I wanted to see what the hub hub was about. It's a 2D platformer so I wasn't expecting much from it at all, I actually regretted buying it whilst it was still downloading, but holy shit this game, this *bleeping* game. The music, the art style,  the story and surprisingly the gameplay are amazing.

And the prologue, holy shit the prologue....

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Best prologue in a video game ever, period. I cannot remember the last time a game evoked such emotion out of me. If you're on PC or Xbox get this damn game, it's 100 times better then all the AAA *bleeping* garbage we've been fed this gen.

Ori is my GOTY, actually, no, it's my GOTG (Game of the Gen), if only because it reminded me what it feels like to play a good game. *bleep* the shit we've had to play these past years.


DAT praise

thankfully it's on PC and not just xbox exclusive. Will see if it's on steam sale Molenation
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