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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:21 pm

Danilo is a RB... Carvajal and Danilo competing is fine. They're both good. Danilo will have to beat Carvajal out and that's not a given at all.

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Post by Myesyats Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:28 pm

Can't wait to see Ramos in PL and De gea in Madrid hmm Make this happen pls
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Post by terrance511 Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:28 pm

is pepe varane partnership really good? as i recall, it's flaws all over.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:34 pm

Varane just needs to be given a permanent spot RCB or LCB (he's much better as a RCB).  It's far more complicated then it seems to change sides....  but doable.  Last year, he played RCB with Ramos and LCB with Pepe.  So he changed every other game.  Hard to find your marks and play great positional defense like that.  Madrid were taking his strengths away from him.

Also, having a pairing that play consistently together and learn how each plays is massively important...  constant change at CB is not a good thing unless you need to rest.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:38 pm

Looks like this is legit. Wonder where Madrid's CL goals will come from now.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:40 pm

sportsczy wrote:Varane just needs to be given a permanent spot RCB or LCB (he's much better as a RCB).  It's far more complicated then it seems to change sides....  but doable.  Last year, he played RCB with Ramos and LCB with Pepe.  So he changed every other game.  Hard to find your marks and play great positional defense like that.  Madrid were taking his strengths away from him.

Also, having a pairing that play consistently together and learn how each plays is massively important...  constant change at CB is not a good thing unless you need to rest.


The excuses made for this guy are hilarious Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:41 pm

Do you know many players that do well playing every 3rd game and 50% of the time out of position??? please let me know if you do.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:47 pm

Hard to believe but Man Utd is about to become even more unlikeable Laughing
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:48 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Looks like this is legit. Wonder where Madrid's CL goals will come from now.
Otamendi is pretty good at headers if i recall hmm
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:48 pm

I don't care tbh, all i know is that no other player would get the benefit of the doubt and excuses that he does for why he's not the consensus best defender in the world all the time.

He's made mistakes as much as any other high profile defender, some of the shit Ramos and Pepe do you wouldn't even hear about with Varane but with Ramos and Pepe it's emphasised to be the millionth degree.

Absolutely hilarious how everything he could be criticized for is completely ignored or excuses are made up for and everything great he does is wanked over times a million.

Double standards are funny with certain defenders and he's one of them.
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Post by jibers Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:51 pm

cheers

I hope this is true. I've said this many times before, but I'll say it again, Ramos is the best cb I've seen since Baresi. With him in our backline we can dream of the treble, no, we can dream of the quintuple. Woodward has outdone himself if this goes through.
























































































































































































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Post by chad4401 Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:52 pm

@mole once varane start playing every week then he can be judge fairly, i don't know where the idea of playing great, every few chance you get is legit cause its clearly not true, that goes for any player no matter who they are
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:54 pm

He's played enough to be judged, sick of the inconsistent rating and double standards just because one player is liked and another isn't.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:58 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Looks like this is legit. Wonder where Madrid's CL goals will come from now.

They won't qualify hmm Already been over this in the Liga thread
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Post by chad4401 Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:59 pm

Laughing cheeky pos, anyway name one player that plays great every few weeks or months? no player does that ever
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Post by RED Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:01 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Hard to believe but Man Utd is about to become even more unlikeable Laughing


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:01 pm

chad4401 wrote:Laughing cheeky pos, anyway name one player that plays great every few weeks or months? no player does that ever


Where did i say otherwise? Not my fault you Madrid fans act like Varane is gods gift to humanity and then when someone actually calls him out on not performing at a level any higher than his club team mates you wonder why people do it Laughing

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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:05 pm

RED wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Hard to believe but Man Utd is about to become even more unlikeable Laughing


cheers


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Post by chad4401 Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:07 pm

fair enough I see your point, from my point of view varane only really started making more criminal mistakes after his knee injury and add the lack of playing time it happens tbh, hopefully he goes back to being mr clean as a starter
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Post by futbol Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:10 pm

chad4401 wrote:from my point of view varane only really started making more criminal mistakes after his knee injury


And as usual Fußtradamus predicted this years ago: http://www.goallegacy.net/t1905p522-raphael-varane#1092939

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:10 pm

I'll stop criticizing him when his status and his performance level actually equal his talent and the hype surrounding him.

On the flip side i'd argue there are a lot of defenders in the world who do perform above their talent and hype level but get no shine. That's my problem his performances as of now do not deserve the reputation he has where there's other defenders who do but no one respects them.

There's a huge inconsistency when it comes to CBs and how they are rated and intensely analyzed, for example i don't think Hummels is the best like a lot of you think i do but i do think he's unfairly criticized for making mistakes which other defenders make but don't get anywhere near the same levels of criticism.


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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:11 pm

You're a Barca fan mole... so the trolling is expected Laughing
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:13 pm

LOL. If anyone disagrees on this forum then he's certainly a troll oO

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Post by jibers Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:14 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'll stop criticizing him when his status and his performance level actually equal his talent and the hype surrounding him.

On the flip side i'd argue there are a lot of defenders in the world who do perform above their talent and hype level but get no shine. That's my problem his performances as of now do not deserve the reputation he has where there's other defenders who do but no one respects them.

There's a huge inconsistency when it comes to CBs and how they are rated and intensely analyzed, for example i don't think Hummels is the best like a lot of you think i do but i do think he's unfairly criticized for making mistakes which other defenders make but don't get anywhere near the same levels of criticism.


I can agree with this.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:15 pm

Barca fan? not really and it's quite sad that it's come down to i don't like your opinion so you must be trolling.

I have never been a Barca fan particularly, i always liked watching them play up until it became boring a few years ago.

I'm not a fan of much anymore because it's all shit but i digress lol.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:18 pm

jibers wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'll stop criticizing him when his status and his performance level actually equal his talent and the hype surrounding him.

On the flip side i'd argue there are a lot of defenders in the world who do perform above their talent and hype level but get no shine. That's my problem his performances as of now do not deserve the reputation he has where there's other defenders who do but no one respects them.

There's a huge inconsistency when it comes to CBs and how they are rated and intensely analyzed, for example i don't think Hummels is the best like a lot of you think i do but i do think he's unfairly criticized for making mistakes which other defenders make but don't get anywhere near the same levels of criticism.


I can agree with this.


I can't tbh. Hummels was still included by many on here, certainly Mole, in the 'best CBs 2014' list although he had a terrible season, it's only a recent development GL has caught on to the years old news from Bundesliga that Hummels is continually struggling to reach his 2012 top form.

He's certainly not getting an especially rough treatment lol.

There are other examples of CBs who keep being criminally and absurdly underrated though :coffee:
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