Re: Ramos demands to leave Madrid

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:09 pm

Mole

FuSSbal, i am in love with the badge first and foremost. I identify with the shirt, and the idea that i have of what the club means. I am a fan of the CLUB, not the players because it would mean you either leave with the players, or you act like they are the best when they play for you.

Sure Ramos was instrumental winning la decima, yet to me that doesnt mean we will be hostages to his demands. Many came before him, many will come after, it's as simple as that. He scored an incredible header, yet it's being naive that you have to jeopardise your future based off that single moment. we won 10 CL, not one.

by halamadrid2 Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:11 pm

Ramos going is a gift from God. Couldn't give two fcks if we got otamendi or not we have two superior defenders in Pepe and Varane anyways

by Pedram Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:22 pm

Pepe is 32 years old though, not sure how long he can keep it up.

by Valkyrja Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:23 pm

Pepe-Varane is worse than Varane-Ramos

by Blue Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:36 pm

windkick wrote:
Fußball wrote:Man, how do Madrid fans even identify with their team? Sporting aspect aside, whether he's a world class defender or not, Ramos can be considered a Madrid legend who has been with the team for a decade and was the main reason why they won La Decima. Getting rid of him just like that?

What more do you expect of them?

Oh like how you guys treated Dinho and Eto'o?

Get F out of here with that double standard, every club operates the same way.Football is a business, if Real doesn't think he is worth the wage they have the right to get rid of him.

by Deja Vu Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:38 pm

Blue wrote:
windkick wrote:
Fußball wrote:Man, how do Madrid fans even identify with their team? Sporting aspect aside, whether he's a world class defender or not, Ramos can be considered a Madrid legend who has been with the team for a decade and was the main reason why they won La Decima. Getting rid of him just like that?

What more do you expect of them?

Oh like how you guys treated Dinho and Eto'o?

Get F out of here with that double standard, every club operates the same way.Football is a business, if Real doesn't think he is worth the wage they have the right to get rid of him.

Please remind us how we treated them.

by S Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:39 pm

Blue wrote:
windkick wrote:
Fußball wrote:Man, how do Madrid fans even identify with their team? Sporting aspect aside, whether he's a world class defender or not, Ramos can be considered a Madrid legend who has been with the team for a decade and was the main reason why they won La Decima. Getting rid of him just like that?

What more do you expect of them?

Oh like how you guys treated Dinho and Eto'o?

Get F out of here with that double standard, every club operates the same way.Football is a business, if Real doesn't think he is worth the wage they have the right to get rid of him.

Agreed.Unreal demands by Ramos tbh.

by À bout de souffle Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:40 pm

If there's anyone who should be leaving, it should be Casillas. But he's become an immovable object. Laughing

Speaking of CBs...

Ramos is definitely overrated. His winning headers masks his defensive failings. He's decent. As a pure defender, nothing special.

Hummels, another pretty boy, who I used to swoon over until lately. He's glorious on the ball and aerially stupendous. But his lack of pace is an handicap and his attitude stinks. He was absolutely tragic last season in terms of organising his defense, whilst individually displaying poor anticipation. Contrary to popular belief, he's no leader.

Thiago Silva: His injuries have hampered his consistency, and by the looks of it his other manly traits.

Godin and Pepe: may not 've the marketing machine behind them, but they are your only no-nonsense defenders in the game, who don't 've to do fancy-shancy stuff on the ball to stand out in their roles.

Ota has had a stellar season, but until he does it over an extended period, I'd be cautious to rate him amongst the best.

Piqué: brilliant sec half. But motivation has always been an issue with him and his off-pitch joker role makes an appearance in-game from time to time. Again, I'm wary to praise him too highly because you never know when his waka waka version re-appears.

Varane, Marcos, Giménez, Laporte: all talented youngsters. But the frenchman is marked for greatness if developed well.
If he was @ Barca, he'd be starting for us week in week out.
A natural talent whose physical and technical attributes trumps his peers. I'm sad he's not a blaugrana.

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:43 pm

dont worry about Iker, he is on his way too, or at the very least, he wont be our starting gk anymore starting next season

by RED Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:48 pm

Looks like he'll end up at Utd then if things go to plan.

Never liked him as a player because I thought he was a **** on the pitch, but he'll be our **** Proud

Now lets pair him up with Otamendi. Gwan Woody, make it happen.

by Art Morte Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:53 pm

A player + cash deal involving De Gea and Ramos looks near-certain now and I think it's Real Madrid who win big. Ramos isn't irreplaceable and isn't getting any younger, while De Gea is probably going to be a world-class keeper for a decade or so.

Keeping in mind how Real Madrid players who have in recent years come to the Premier League have flopped (Sahin, Özil, Di Maria), I'm all for this transfer to materialize.

by RED Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:00 pm

^ Sort out our defence with some competent defenders and we should be alright with Valdes.

DDG is a big loss no doubt.

by Myesyats Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:03 pm

Wouldn't be so sure that Otamendi would do better than Ramos. First of all he was so good this season because he and Mustafi are like brothers on the pitch, as in they understand each other perfectly. As Mole said earlier, you dont realise what you got till you lose it

by À bout de souffle Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:05 pm

I forgot Boateng. rofl

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:06 pm

You guys do realise i'm trolling lol.

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:13 pm

RED wrote:
Now lets pair him up with Otamendi. Gwan Woody, make it happen.

You are after both? I thought this would be an either or scenario

by RED Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:26 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
RED wrote:
Now lets pair him up with Otamendi. Gwan Woody, make it happen.
You are after both? IIsigned this would be an either or scenario

Nothing substantial yet, but we've been linked with Otamendi for weeks now. He apparently favors a move to the PL.

I think we're after both. We're in need of top class CBs

by chad4401 Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:35 pm

the thing that gets me mad the most about ramos, is that no matter how big the mistake, he still wears that big stupid "im gonna start next game too" smile, doesn't look bothered at all freaking pos Laughing

by Onyx Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:04 pm

de Gea, Danilo, Otamendi, Varane...

For the first time ever we might actually have a solid defense.

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:07 pm

if we find a solid lb that is

by farfan Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:07 pm

Marcelo is leaving ?

by RED Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:12 pm

SocialRMadrid ‏@SocialRMadrid 1h1 hour ago
El Pais | Ramos has told United that he wants to join. An official offer to come from United shortly.

by Mr Nick09 Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:14 pm

negotiation start at 70 mil Proud

by sportsczy Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:17 pm

One scrub defender in the back 4 is all you can carry as long as the other 3 are very solid defensively... and he can't be a CB Laughing

So Marcelo is perfect for us :coffee:

by farfan Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:19 pm

also you guys are just assuming that Danilo will come good for Real . :coffee:

by sportsczy Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:21 pm

Danilo is a RB... Carvajal and Danilo competing is fine. They're both good. Danilo will have to beat Carvajal out and that's not a given at all.

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