brand value of next generation goats

Isnt neymar 86 million $ worth considered to hazards 32 mill $. thats staggering , when you considered both of them are equally talented .Is neymar that much more marketable as considered to hazard and goetze ? how is real going to reap money from bale brand ? is he really that marketable

Brand value, what has this sport become? Only thing less interesting figure is facebook fans.

For real, let's have a modeling contest while we're at it, to see who can be more marketable for being classically handsome.

Sadly though football will only become even more money-centric, but it's inevitable.

well football is all about money . Teams that usually wins league are among top1 or 2 spenders . heard some where that barca board were willing to spent so much money on neymar because they believe they could recoup the money by selling his brand . In that case hazard went for peanuts as compared to neymar . isnt that true ?

Brasil is a little bit bigger than Belgium u know.
Oh and I though Chelsea paid 40m € for Hazard. Or what is this about?

zigra wrote:Brasil is a little bit bigger than Belgium u know.
Oh and I though Chelsea paid 40m € for Hazard. Or what is this about?

It was 32m pounds.

sree999 wrote: Isnt neymar 86 million $ worth considered to hazards 32 mill $. thats staggering , when you considered both of them are equally talented .Is neymar that much more marketable as considered to hazard and goetze ? how is real going to reap money from bale brand ? is he really that marketable

57M* euro

Hazard is good, but Neymar is levels above!

lol at "levels above" bias at its finest

neymar can't even score against teams barca thrash 5-0

Giggity5313 wrote:lol at "levels above" bias at its finest

neymar can't even score against teams barca thrash 5-0

Neymar talent wise and in terms of achievements for club & country has done much more than Hazard who's 1 year older!

time will tell :-)

Khaled wrote:

Giggity5313 wrote:lol at "levels above" bias at its finest

neymar can't even score against teams barca thrash 5-0

Neymar talent wise and in terms of achievements for club & country has done much more than Hazard who's 1 year older!

time will tell :-)

Well yeah, but belgium is not even close to brazil talent and quality wise.. to add to that they can't play well as a team yet.

Hazard was always solid with lille, in a way stronger league then the brazillian league.. (in be4 ganso and catratcho lecturing me)
Your right, time will tell. and a year is really not that big of a difference

Khaled wrote:

sree999 wrote: Isnt neymar 86 million $ worth considered to hazards 32 mill $. thats staggering , when you considered both of them are equally talented .Is neymar that much more marketable as considered to hazard and goetze ? how is real going to reap money from bale brand ? is he really that marketable

57M* euro

Hazard is good, but Neymar is levels above!

Neymar cost more than that, haven't you been following the Neymargate scandal?

Giggity5313 wrote:

Khaled wrote:

Giggity5313 wrote:lol at "levels above" bias at its finest

neymar can't even score against teams barca thrash 5-0

Neymar talent wise and in terms of achievements for club & country has done much more than Hazard who's 1 year older!

time will tell :-)

Hazard was always solid with lille, in a way stronger league then the brazillian league.. (in be4 ganso and catratcho lecturing me)
Your right, time will tell. and a year is really not that big of a difference

I'm not hating on Eden, but such bold statements sometimes from some people. In the 2 years since Hazard left Lille the French league has made the real strides in which it can maybe be called a WAY stronger league than brazil. Back then they were more up to par.

marseille, lyon, and sometimes bordeaux have always been strong teams. I disagree that its gotten better only now.

Let me clarify myself.. its not that I rate neymar lower.. its that i rate hazard higher. He doesn't get enough credit for what he does tbh.

Giggity5313 wrote:lol at "levels above" bias at its finest

neymar can't even score against teams barca thrash 5-0

What has Hazard won? Neymar has already won a copa libertadores, the brazilian state and national league and a confederations cup (in which he was the best player). Neymar's reputation is thoroughly deserved. Doesn't hurt that he has the entire Nike establishment working to make him a household name though...

@ Giggity5313 hows real madrid going to recoup from buying bale ? is he really that marketable compared to neymar and hazard or did madrid buy just because they tough he was missing piece in their quest for glory ?

sree999 wrote:@ Giggity5313 hows real madrid going to recoup from buying bale ? is he really that marketable compared to neymar  and hazard or did madrid buy just because they tough he was missing piece in their quest for glory ?

Wow, very on topic! Very relevant to the discussion!

...maybe you should read the OP again?

sree999 wrote: Isnt neymar 86 million $ worth considered to hazards 32 mill $. thats staggering , when you considered both of them are equally talented .Is neymar that much more marketable as considered to hazard and goetze ? how is real going to reap money from bale brand ? is he really that marketable

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Giggity5313 wrote:lol at "levels above" bias at its finest

neymar can't even score against teams barca thrash 5-0

What has Hazard won? :scratch:Neymar has already won a copa libertadores, the brazilian state and national league and a confederations cup (in which he was the best player). Neymar's reputation is thoroughly deserved. Doesn't hurt that he has the entire Nike establishment working to make him a household name though...

Seem to remember Hazard winning Ligue 1 & Coupe de France with Lille. Other than that, you wouldn't have expected him to win the CL with Lille, would you? Europe isn't exactly South America. I'm sure you know this.

Not trying to say their honors cancel out as in the end Neymar has won more, however anyone spins it. Just saying you can't just completely ignore the context of things.

Because Neymar is much more talented and has a very high ceiling.. Hazard has world class potential but Neymar has Goat potential.

They are not really equally talented. Neymar is better and is one year younger.

of course, of course. YOUR starlet is levels above other team's starlet. How could we assume otherwise?

Hapless_Hans wrote:of course, of course. YOUR starlet is levels above other team's starlet. How could we assume otherwise?

Yes, when it's true.

Hazard: 2.500 minutes, 11 goals, 8 assists.
Neymar: 1.900 minutes, 11 goals, 12 assists.

Much more productive and a year younger, playing less, adapting to a new league and club and getting injured.

free_cat wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:of course, of course. YOUR starlet is levels above other team's starlet. How could we assume otherwise?

Yes, when it's true.

Hazard: 2.500 minutes, 11 goals, 8 assists.
Neymar: 1.900 minutes, 11 goals, 12 assists.

Much more productive and a year younger, playing less, adapting to a new league and club and getting injured.

Neymar is playing in a more offensive minded team surrounded by superior teammates in an inferior League. Stupid stat.

If we're going by stats, Hazard has embarked on more successful dribbles than any player in the Europe this season (not inflated unlike Bundesliga) and has created the most chances in Europe.

free_cat wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:of course, of course. YOUR starlet is levels above other team's starlet. How could we assume otherwise?

Yes, when it's true.

Hazard: 2.500 minutes, 11 goals, 8 assists.
Neymar: 1.900 minutes, 11 goals, 12 assists.

Much more productive and a year younger, playing less, adapting to a new league and club and getting injured.

Ive never such bias before.

sree999 wrote: Isnt neymar 86 million $ worth considered to hazards 32 mill $. thats staggering , when you considered both of them are equally talented .Is neymar that much more marketable as considered to hazard and goetze ? how is real going to reap money from bale brand ? is he really that marketable

Neymar has been a prodigy since he was born hailing from the most successful footballing nation on Earth. Growing up in the club of Pele.

Hazard is one guy coming through during a small nation's golden generation.

Neymar also has been able to buy into the act since he has been ordained it. He has the rock star hair. Rock star girlfriend. Rock Star son. Rock star lifestyle. He's the cool guy you would want to hang out with.

Now Hazard is also cool, but in much less a degree. He's a married family man. He also dresses like an Eastern European Pimp every time I see him out partying. He's also not been the main man for his country like Neymar since Kevin De Bench was pulling the strings.

De Bench looks a shell of himself in Germany now so if Hazard turns it up there the way he has at Chelsea, then he will definitely double his brand. He will already be much bigger after this season. He's been amazing without Mata there holding him back.