Re: What Ronaldo lacks? Why he never gets full credit?

by S32TABLANCA Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 18:37

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
billionmillion wrote:i think nobody gives a shit if any player scores an obvious goal (except media). I mean even when Messi scored 2 goals vs Brazil i was not impressed then he scored his third goal and it was magical. so i think only great goals impress people (dont think CR's 2 tap-in impressed anyone). so this is why i think he didnt get credit and doesnt usually

so if messi won it in 2010 without titles so why you are sure that he will not win it with 82 goals and more than 15 broken records?

So CR's goals against Portugal were tap ins now?

Stupid.

Portugal

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by Swanhends Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 18:46

S32TABLANCA wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
billionmillion wrote:i think nobody gives a shit if any player scores an obvious goal (except media). I mean even when Messi scored 2 goals vs Brazil i was not impressed then he scored his third goal and it was magical. so i think only great goals impress people (dont think CR's 2 tap-in impressed anyone). so this is why i think he didnt get credit and doesnt usually

so if messi won it in 2010 without titles so why you are sure that he will not win it with 82 goals and more than 15 broken records?

So CR's goals against Portugal were tap ins now?

Stupid.

Portugal

:I'munoriginal:

by billionmillion Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 18:59

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
billionmillion wrote:i think nobody gives a shit if any player scores an obvious goal (except media). I mean even when Messi scored 2 goals vs Brazil i was not impressed then he scored his third goal and it was magical. so i think only great goals impress people (dont think CR's 2 tap-in impressed anyone). so this is why i think he didnt get credit and doesnt usually

so if messi won it in 2010 without titles so why you are sure that he will not win it with 82 goals and more than 15 broken records?

So CR's goals against Netherlands (:I'munoriginal:) were tap ins now?

Stupid.

when you start to type more than 3 words in a post i will answer to your question

by Lord Awesome Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 19:03

Billion.

Anyway here's the gist of it.

Ronnie do it in a competitive match and Messi didn't. I still don't see what's so Ballon D'Or worthy about Messi this season. Technical Dribbling or Passing isn't the sole way to determine a Ballon D'Or and know a lot of you cling on to that biased philosophy.

by kiranr Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 19:25

Well, CR was relatively consistent this year as compared to his other teammates, and he won the La Liga too, so ideally, he should be winning it.

Only a few don't give him the credit. Most seem to rate him just fine.

by Lord Awesome Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 19:29

A lot don't give him the credit he deserves. There's plenty on this forum.

Different reasons, mind you, few logical ones but pretty naive ones for the most part IMO.

Goal Legacy is Troll Legacy indeed.

by kiranr Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 19:31

Lord Hispano wrote:A lot don't give him the credit he deserves. There's plenty on this forum.

Different reasons, mind you, few logic ones but pretty naive ones for the most part IMO.

Goal Legacy is Troll Legacy indeed.

I think everyone knows he is one of the top players. They just make fun of the way he carries himself. Don't get fooled by these jibes at him.

by Lord Awesome Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 19:37

kiranr wrote:
I think everyone knows he is one of the top players. They just make fun of the way he carries himself. Don't get fooled by these jibes at him.

The mere hate he receives is pretty self explanatory. You're probably right about that.

by I Live in a Fjord Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 20:43

Lord Hispano wrote: Billion.

Anyway here's the gist of it.

Ronnie do it in a competitive match and Messi didn't. I still don't see what's so Ballon D'Or worthy about Messi this season. Technical Dribbling or Passing isn't the sole way to determine a Ballon D'Or and know a lot of you cling on to that biased philosophy.

What a load of bollocks, never seen so much nonsense in so few words. Messi has not been Ballon d'Or worthy this season? Lay off the crack and take off those rose tinted glasses, because you clearly arent thinking straight at the moment, friend.

by halamadrid2 Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:36

Missi was sub par for quite a good bunch of this season and costed his team the LaLiga pretty much, so i don't see why its nonsense

by BigBadBen Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:50

halamadrid2 wrote:Missi was sub par for quite a good bunch of this season and costed his team the LaLiga pretty much,

by halamadrid2 Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:55

BigBadBen wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Missi was sub par for quite a good bunch of this season and costed his team the LaLiga pretty much,

by jibers Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 21:59

BigBadBen wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Missi was sub par for quite a good bunch of this season and costed his team the LaLiga pretty much,

by billionmillion Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:02

halamadrid2 wrote:Missi was sub par for quite a good bunch of this season and costed his team the LaLiga pretty much, so i don't see why its nonsense

without messi's goals and assists barca are 6th in the table. it was not messi's fault. barca as a team were not in form most part of season. its not like messi is without titles he won 4 (he has 7 goals 4 assists in the finals of these 4 cups)

by harhar11 Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:08

halamadrid2 wrote:Missi was sub par for quite a good bunch of this season and costed his team the LaLiga pretty much, so i don't see why its nonsense

Its actually the complete opposite. Without him we, as billionmillion said, would finish 6th in the league. What more can you ask a player to do?

by halamadrid2 Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:09

billionmillion wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Missi was sub par for quite a good bunch of this season and costed his team the LaLiga pretty much, so i don't see why its nonsense
without messi's goals and assists barca are 6th in the table. it was not messi's fault. barca as a team were not in form most part of season. its not like messi is without titles he won 4 (he has 7 goals 4 assists in the finals of these 4 cups)

how many times was Missi just walking around not making any effort, or what about those penalty misses of him that cost you points??

by Zealous Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:17

Messi was only sub par against Chelsea and Real Madrid this season.

Against the heavy weights of Racing and and Victoria Plzen he was the goat :bow:

by jibers Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:21

Zealous wrote:Messi was only sub par against Chelsea and Real Madrid this season.

Against the heavy weights of Racing and and Victoria Plzen he was the goat

He raped you in th copa first leg, raped you in the 3-1 win in la liga, raped you in the supercup twice...yet he flopped againt Madrid in 1 game... Ronaldo flops in every el classico and scored a goal laid on a plate by Madrids best player ozil and he is player of the season....

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by billionmillion Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:22

So walking Messi>Running Ronaldo. without ronaldo and messi
1.Madrid
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6.Barca

shows how Madrid won it as a team. 1 missed penalty didnt cost barca the league there were 10 point difference

by buddytaller Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:26

Messi scored just two goals or so in Barcelona's first 10 away games, he was uncharacteristically poor away from home, and Barcelona suffered as a result.

by billionmillion Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:27

jibers wrote:
Zealous wrote:Messi was only sub par against Chelsea and Real Madrid this season.

Against the heavy weights of Racing and and Victoria Plzen he was the goat

He raped you in th copa first leg, raped you in the 3-1 win in la liga, raped you in the supercup twice...yet he flopped againt Madrid in 1 game... Ronaldo flopos in evry el classico and scored a goal laid on aplate by MAdrids best player ozil and he is player of the season....

raped madrid 4 times this season...in last clasico didnt flop.played better than ronaldo (involved in Sanchez goal and put xavi one by one with casillas)

by Harmonica Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:29

buddytaller wrote:Messi scored just two goals or so in Barcelona's first 10 away games, he was uncharacteristically poor away from home, and Barcelona suffered as a result.

Penaldo was shit all season, and scored only penalties in autumn.

by buddytaller Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:34

jiopsi wrote:
buddytaller wrote:Messi scored just two goals or so in Barcelona's first 10 away games, he was uncharacteristically poor away from home, and Barcelona suffered as a result.
Penaldo was shit all season, and scored only penalties in autumn.

Can't you debate your points without namecalling and insults?

by billionmillion Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:34

buddytaller wrote:Messi scored just two goals or so in Barcelona's first 10 away games, he was uncharacteristically poor away from home, and Barcelona suffered as a result.

every player becomes off-form in some time. the difference was when ronaldo didnt score other team-mates scored. but when messi didnt score nobody scored in barca. example most scored player in madrid after ronaldo is Benzema with 30 goals, Higuain 24-25 goals. in barca its Fabregas with 15 goals, Pedro 14 goals

by Lex Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:40

I'm thoroughly enjoying Jives crusade against Cronaldo Surprised

by Harmonica Tue 19 Jun 2012 - 23:42

buddytaller wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
buddytaller wrote:Messi scored just two goals or so in Barcelona's first 10 away games, he was uncharacteristically poor away from home, and Barcelona suffered as a result.
Penaldo was shit all season, and scored only penalties in autumn.

Can't you debate your points without namecalling and insults?

Can't you be objective and have fking somewhat intelligent arguments for once?

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