How competitive will next seasons CL be?

Vibe wrote:

Raptorgunner wrote:

leemhuis wrote:Important to see what the Serie A club will be for 3 place. I hope Napoli, but Inter is now 3 point from 3 place.

How is Inter that close?

Vibe back on GL,Inter 3 points off CL

VivaStPauli wrote:Defend badly -> Italians get mad. :vagi:

VivaStPauli wrote:
After them being defeated by Chelski, well... I think a lot more clubs will go in trying to win, and it'll get tougher for Barca. They'Re still a top side, obviously.

Zealous wrote:Barca are physically out of it. They need a complete re-haul at the back imo. Old guard are reaching their end as well form/injuries will hurt Barca now more than ever.

New guard will be expected to step up and carry Messi's towel better but I just don't see that happening. Thiagod is too young and Cex is well lol. Also we must now assume the scenario of Messi getting some injuries as well, balance of probabilities means he will get one at some point and Barca have to assume the worst and buy some back up goalscorers to avoid what happened to them this season but given their financial situation that might not happen. As for their current strike force Mexican Pedro is just a Bojan upgrade and Villa is practically finished imo. Tello and Cwanka are still kids.

On the flip side you have Madrid who will have the same young core and will be hungry for next season. Not to mention Jose will add some new players here and there to round things off.

Zealous wrote:What's the part you find the most funny? That Pedro does look Mexican or that you are on the down if you don't do something about it?

If you think your current old guard is going to have injury free seasons you are trippin'. Whatever just keeping subbing in Keita for Cesc I'm sure that'll work lol

Ganso wrote:serie a teams wont do shet bar maybe juve

kiranr wrote:

Zealous wrote:What's the part you find the most funny? That Pedro does look Mexican or that you are on the down if you don't do something about it?

If you think your current old guard is going to have injury free seasons you are trippin'. Whatever just keeping subbing in Keita for Cesc I'm sure that'll work lol

1) No one is on the down. Some tweaks here and there, like a new defender or 2 and a new forward and Barcelona are as good as new. There is plenty of money to do that. Don't let the news and some "audits" fool you.

2) Until now, there was literally no one pushing Barcelona. Madrid have just arrived on the scene and it required a herculean effort to finally beat us. Congrats, but now Barcelona are going to start improving.

3) Old guard where? Only Puyol may retire after next season play lesser games next season. Abidal will have to be replaced. But we still have good defenders in our squad and enough to challenge for titles. Midfield remains the same and as i said add a new forward and we are back to being the team to beat season.

Let us see how the summer transpires.

Zealous wrote:

1) Fine everything is great at Barca, you are not being carried by one player. Congrats.

2) We've been pushing for 4 years now, from Pelle to Mou now. If you think Barca handled this easily from a physical standpoint I think you're wrong tbh. It'll only get worse without new faces.

4) We'll have to see about that but I don't think you're previous top performers bar Messi will continue at a high rate. New faces are a must for Barca in defence and midfield. There is even talk of Pep leaving now, perhaps even he knows this Barca team is at it's limit.

kiranr wrote:

Zealous wrote:

1) Fine everything is great at Barca, you are not being carried by one player. Congrats.

2) We've been pushing for 4 years now, from Pelle to Mou now. If you think Barca handled this easily from a physical standpoint I think you're wrong tbh. It'll only get worse without new faces.

4) We'll have to see about that but I don't think you're previous top performers bar Messi will continue at a high rate. New faces are a must for Barca in defence and midfield. There is even talk of Pep leaving now, perhaps even he knows this Barca team is at it's limit.

1) Yes, Messi carried a lot of the scoring burden, but part of it was down to injuriies which we could not deal with and did not choose to as we turned to the youth, who did well considering the circumstances. That is why i said, a new forward will go a long way in rejuvenating the forward line.

That is no way means we are in decline.

2) We need reinforcements in defense. Abidal needs to be replaced and we need a CB too. But that is where the requirements end.

3) Which players will not continue at a high rate? The midfield is awesome with all the options in it. The forwards will get better with the addition of a new player and we have La Masia to tap into. The Villa injury was a big blow (yes, he would have helped our ending to the season in a big big way) and we erred in thinking the slack could be picked up by our kids. I expect Pedro to be sharp next season, like he always was.

Pep was thinking about leaving even before the season started. So, it is not due to the prospective decline that you are talking about.

Fact of the matter is, our core group will still remain the same and with the tweaks and a proper pre-season, we will probably have another successful season.

leemhuis wrote:"Juventus and Dortmund still have to prove themselves in Europe."

It is not commonly known, but Juventus has been in the CL finals seven times, more than Manchester United and Inter and the same number of times as Barcelona. But Dortmund has been in the finals only once, so I agree there.

VivaStPauli wrote:And Dortmund won :vagi:

VivaStPauli wrote:And Dortmund won :vagi:

Zealous wrote:Juventus are just horrible in Final situations. The Germany of clubs :vagi:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Zealous wrote:Juventus are just horrible in Final situations. The Germany of clubs :vagi:

Would'nt that be the Holland of clubs lol?