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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:19 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:Of course Neuer is on level with world class keepers.

1. Krul level

2. World Class level

3. everyone else


:coffee:

Krul is 1.5 between Casillias and World Class Razz





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Post by Zealous Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:22 pm

Zaragoza are one of the largest clubs in Spain (lol) Casillas felt sorry for them since they were fighting relegation last year.

He wanted to give them a shot without making it look too obvious :coffee:
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Post by S Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:23 pm

Damn i miss Huntsman now currently.Hope he comes online. Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:26 pm

Zealous wrote:Zaragoza are one of the largest clubs in Spain (lol) Casillas felt sorry for them since they were fighting relegation last year.

He wanted to give them a shot without making it look too obvious :coffee:



0:45 :coffee:
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Post by Zealous Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:34 pm

Obviously he feels sorry for Milan as well :coffee:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:41 pm

Zealous wrote:Obviously he feels sorry for Milan as well :coffee:

Suppose he felt sorry for all these teams aswell? :coffee:

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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:44 pm



:coffee:


Casillias is like God he does good things and sometimes bad. :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:54 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:

:coffee:


Casillias is like God he does good things and sometimes bad. :bow:

Pro debut at 16 :coffee:





The dutch know what they are talking about, even the great Nerman couldnt score past him :coffee:
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:04 pm

At 16 years old Casillias was called up to the biggest and best club in the world. 2 years later at 18 he made his debut in the biggest club in the world. :study:
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:07 pm

Agree wit Crim.

Absolute joke of a thread.
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Post by the xcx Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:08 pm

lol let me know when Krul does one of these saves, as of now he isisnt in par of Neuer, Buffon or Casillas.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:10 pm

Casillias > Krul > Neuer :coffee:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:11 pm

The xcx wrote:lol let me know when Krul does one of these saves, as of now he isisnt in par of Neuer, Buffon or Casillas.

He already has :coffee:

Because he plays for a mid table PL side his exploits are not there for all to see so its my job to hype him into the stratosphere :coffee:

Krul > Casillas :coffee:
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Post by The Messiah Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:06 pm

Here's the record for all club competitions for clean sheet.

1. Edwin van der Sar ... 1311 minutes
2. Abel Resino Gomez ... 1275 minutes
3. Vitor Baia ... 1191 minutes
4. Petr Cech ... 1025 minutes
5. Manuel Neuer ... 1018 minutes(Ongoing)


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Post by The Messiah Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:10 pm

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Post by Sushi Master Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:11 pm

Clean sheet record, BTW.

Neuer is already "established". He's been great for several years now, but due to playing in fairly uknown Schalke, his "stardom" isn't at Casilla level yet.

Only after the World Cup and Schalke's CL run has he been given the recognition he deserves.

He's definitely at Casillas level, and will go beyond it IMO.
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Post by PinePHresh Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:56 pm

The very best goalkeepers have to be good with their feet. Neuer reckons that he could play midfield in Germany's third tier.

He was a one man brick wall in front of goal vs Dortmund last season. I remember them getting like 5 one v ones in the first half alone.

Neuer is the best GK in the world imo.
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Post by rwo power Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:31 pm

Oh, just stumbled into this thread. I really, really hope that Germany will win EC2012 and WC2014 - then all this stupid "Who's the best GK" will be laid to rest.

IMO Neuer will become better than Oliver Kahn (if he isn't already - but I think he can still improve in properly scaring the attackers in 1 on 1s, although he already did a good job in that in the first leg of the CL semi and against Bayern and Dortmund last BL season).
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Post by Magricos Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:37 pm

:lol!: just because a GK wins the WC or Euro doesn't mean he will be proclaimed the best in the world as soon as he wins it.

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Post by Catracho Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:42 pm

Rogerio Ceni > Neuer :coffee:
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Post by The Messiah Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:51 pm

rwo power wrote:Oh, just stumbled into this thread. I really, really hope that Germany will win EC2012 and WC2014 - then all this stupid "Who's the best GK" will be laid to rest.

IMO Neuer will become better than Oliver Kahn (if he isn't already - but I think he can still improve in properly scaring the attackers in 1 on 1s, although he already did a good job in that in the first leg of the CL semi and against Bayern and Dortmund last BL season).

Oliver Kahn is my favourite player of all time but I agree Neuer might become even better than Oliver Kahn.
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Post by rwo power Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:04 pm

Magricos wrote: :lol!: just because a GK wins the WC or Euro doesn't mean he will be proclaimed the best in the world as soon as he wins it.
Well, fact is that people always list what certain players have won with their club/NT to "prove" they are better than others. In my opinion Neuer is already at the very top with still room for further improvement, but people usually hold against him that "he isn't proven yet" or that "he hasn't won anything yet". So some team honours would silence those people, too Very Happy
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Post by Omniscient Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:09 pm

Madrid should get Neuer, he'll make Xabi Alonso obsolete.

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Post by PinePHresh Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:09 am

Magricos wrote: :lol!: just because a GK wins the WC or Euro doesn't mean he will be proclaimed the best in the world as soon as he wins it.

it means something to the media and to the general public (i.e. retards). Whichever QB wins the Superbowl is automatically labeled as the best in the league no matter what. Broadcasters will say, "he's good, but he'll never be great if he doesn't win it all." They completely overlook those who have to manage with a horrible defense that gives up 35 points a game. Analysts of American football are literally the dumbest people on TV.

It's ridiculous, but these opinions exist.

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Post by Zealous Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:29 am

Clean sheets mean diddly squat when rating keepers IMO. Those numbers speak more of the defence than the keeper himself.

Saves per shots on goal is a more accurate stat to use.

Anyway Iker and Buffon have done it all as keepers and they've stepped up for their teams when they were really needed.

Iker is so highly rated because when gut check time comes along he delivers. When Git check time came for Neuer in the world cup he decided to stay at home instead of try to claim the corner kick Puyol scored from.

It's the little things that make your legacy which is why Cech will only really be remembered by Chelsea fans :coffee:
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Post by Sushi Master Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:35 am

That's true. But then again Neuer's only 25 so he has plenty of time to cement his status in history. Then again, Casillas ain't old.

The clean sheets have been more defense than goalkeeping, but Neuer still pulls off plenty of wonder saves when he has to. Had a Casillas-esque match against Hoffenheim with Bayern having a bad day.
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