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Borja valero vs Modric
by Adit Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:27 am
i would say Borja valero by far,modric was underated before the last season.Now he is kinda overated.
Borja had a wonderful season and got the deserved spanish NT call.
Throw ball-Borja by a certain amount
Possession keeping and match control-borja by far
Long balls-May be equal but no way Modric wins.
Dribbling-almost equal
"overatedness"-Modric by far
Better passer-Valero
Better defensive display-Modric
who do you think is better player?
Borja had a wonderful season and got the deserved spanish NT call.
Throw ball-Borja by a certain amount
Possession keeping and match control-borja by far
Long balls-May be equal but no way Modric wins.
Dribbling-almost equal
"overatedness"-Modric by far
Better passer-Valero
Better defensive display-Modric
who do you think is better player?
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Guest Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:02 am
Borja Valera should be compared to likes of Danny Murphy, not Luca Modric
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:24 am
Schweini wrote:
Borja Valera should be compared to likes of Jimmy Bullard, not Luca Modric
Fixed, Segunda btw
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by The Franchise Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:56 am
Modric is more overrated therefore Borja is better....fantastic logic.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by BarcaKizz Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:14 am
Modric for me. Borja is underrated by all of the football world except Adit, who grossly overrates him. When you said 'by far', I just loled... Modric is a great player as well.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by urbaNRoots Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:14 am
Modric may be overrated, but come on now Borja Valero.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Abramovich Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:49 pm
The Franchise wrote:Modric is more overrated therefore Borja is better....fantastic logic.
Couldn't have summed it up any better, epic fail lol.
Borja relegation fodder available for transfer, yet Madrid seem more interested in Luka hmmm
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Onyx Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:21 pm
Borja is a good playmaker and I'd take him at Real Madrid, however overall I think Modric is better.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:04 pm
Borja is a good playmaker, but that doesn't make him a great player.
If that was the case Danny Murphy would have played for Man Utd or Arsenal instead of Fulham
Too much emphasis on being able to pass sideways and backwards, it doesn't make someone a great player. It's a good platform to make someone a good player but that's about it.
The fact the brilliant Borja, couldn't save Villarreal from relegation says enough.
If that was the case Danny Murphy would have played for Man Utd or Arsenal instead of Fulham
Too much emphasis on being able to pass sideways and backwards, it doesn't make someone a great player. It's a good platform to make someone a good player but that's about it.
The fact the brilliant Borja, couldn't save Villarreal from relegation says enough.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Onyx Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:12 pm
Pass sideways and backwards = possession = part of football. 
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:18 pm
mtfootball wrote:Pass sideways and backwards = possession = part of football.
As i said Danny Murphy can do that doesn't make him a great player though, too much emphasis on possession ( which is a team thing anyway) from La Liga followers.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Onyx Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:19 pm
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:mtfootball wrote:Pass sideways and backwards = possession = part of football.
As i said Danny Murphy can do that doesn't make him a great player though, too much emphasis on possession ( which is a team thing anyway) from La Liga followers.
EPL don't really appreciate possession players. It's always physicality, speed and power.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:20 pm
Speed and power wins matches on Fifa
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by jibers Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:22 pm
mtfootball wrote:Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:mtfootball wrote:Pass sideways and backwards = possession = part of football.
As i said Danny Murphy can do that doesn't make him a great player though, too much emphasis on possession ( which is a team thing anyway) from La Liga followers.
EPL don't really appreciate possession players. It's always physicality, speed and power.
Yet Madrid are based on CA. Mt you are easily on the same level as Barca learning. Just come out and admit you are a Barcelona fan.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Onyx Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:37 pm
jibers wrote:mtfootball wrote:Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:mtfootball wrote:Pass sideways and backwards = possession = part of football.
As i said Danny Murphy can do that doesn't make him a great player though, too much emphasis on possession ( which is a team thing anyway) from La Liga followers.
EPL don't really appreciate possession players. It's always physicality, speed and power.
Yet Madrid are based on CA. Mt you are easily on the same level as Barca learning. Just come out and admit you are a Barcelona fan.
And not every Real Madrid fan/legend/etc are happy with us relying on counter-attacks. Also stats show we were one of the top possession teams in Europe last year. Real Madrid play technical football, unlike EPL sides.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by jibers Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:39 pm
mtfootball wrote:jibers wrote:mtfootball wrote:Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:mtfootball wrote:Pass sideways and backwards = possession = part of football.
As i said Danny Murphy can do that doesn't make him a great player though, too much emphasis on possession ( which is a team thing anyway) from La Liga followers.
EPL don't really appreciate possession players. It's always physicality, speed and power.
Yet Madrid are based on CA. Mt you are easily on the same level as Barca learning. Just come out and admit you are a Barcelona fan.
And not every Real Madrid fan/legend/etc are happy with us relying on counter-attacks. Also stats show we were one of the top possession teams in Europe last year. Real Madrid play technical football, unlike EPL sides.
Yea you really looked technical against Bilbao, Barcelon and Bayern and even Ajax were better on the ball. Madrid score on the counter for like 90% of their goals. Technical football
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Onyx Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:42 pm
64% of goals last season were from open play, 12% from counter-attacks. 84% of our passes were short.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by jibers Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:50 pm
mtfootball wrote:64% of goals last season were from open play, 12% from counter-attacks. 84% of our passes were short.
Sure they were
All the times you have played big teams all your goals are from counters. RM are a Mourinho team Bilbao, Barcelona, Bayern even Ajax.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Die Borussen Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:50 pm
mourinho team.. ehmm
i remember a mourinho team who used to kick man u's ass some years ago
nothing wrong with being a mourinho team from my perspective
i remember a mourinho team who used to kick man u's ass some years ago
nothing wrong with being a mourinho team from my perspective
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by jibers Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:10 pm
deadrave wrote:mourinho team.. ehmm
i remember a mourinho team who used to kick man u's ass some years ago
nothing wrong with being a mourinho team from my perspective
Never said there was anyhing wrong, just saying that most Mou teams are built on solid defnces and counters. Calm down. United finished him off eventually when we rebuilt
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Adit Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:13 pm
jibers wrote:deadrave wrote:mourinho team.. ehmm
i remember a mourinho team who used to kick man u's ass some years ago
nothing wrong with being a mourinho team from my perspective
Never said there was anyhing wrong, just saying that most Mou teams are built on solid defnces and counters. Calm down. United finished him off eventually when we rebuilt
How is Real madrid built on defense btw?
We play with out DMs and super attacking full back. Our forward players are super attacking minded as well. We are far from your typical mou team.
Counter attacks? well that is because we have Ronaldo who Ferguson ruined and play better in counter attacking system.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by jibers Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:26 pm
Adit wrote:jibers wrote:deadrave wrote:mourinho team.. ehmm
i remember a mourinho team who used to kick man u's ass some years ago
nothing wrong with being a mourinho team from my perspective
Never said there was anyhing wrong, just saying that most Mou teams are built on solid defnces and counters. Calm down. United finished him off eventually when we rebuilt
How is Real madrid built on defense btw?
We play with out DMs and super attacking full back. Our forward players are super attacking minded as well. We are far from your typical mou team.
Counter attacks? well that is because we have Ronaldo who Ferguson ruined and play better in counter attacking system.
yes Ferguson ruined Ronaldo, gthas why we sold a 'ruined' player for 80 mill. FML
TBF he ruined Rooney, Veron, Forlan and Anderson...
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by Adit Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:28 pm
jibers wrote:
yes Ferguson ruined Ronaldo, gthas why we sold a 'ruined' player for 80 mill. FML
Obvioulsy the ferguson part was supposed to be a half joke. I think Ronaldo wouldve been alot better in the link up plays had he started his career in La liga imo.Look at how much he improved in team play after he joined real.
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Re: Borja valero vs Modric
by jibers Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:40 pm
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