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Post by Swanhends Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:45 pm

2010/11 - 0 points from the first 4 games
2011/12 - 7 points from the first 3 games

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Post by REWB Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:56 pm

lool were are the seria A fans that said udinese are a relegation team?? Laughing i hardly watch seria A but i seem to know more about seria A then half of them on here. Laughing
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Post by Swanhends Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:02 pm

People saying Udinese are a relegation team are not wrong

Their traditional goal every year (historically) is to survive relegation - it is only since Guidolin came around that they have begun far exceeding that modest goal

Udinese have been in Serie A for 39/80 seasons of the league...so less than 1/2
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Post by REWB Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:05 pm

bhends wrote:People saying Udinese are a relegation team are not wrong

Their traditional goal every year (historically) is to survive relegation - it is only since Guidolin came around that they have begun far exceeding that modest goal

Udinese have been in Serie A for 39/80 seasons of the league...so less than 1/2

i get all that but that doesnt make them a relegation team, look at stoke, would you call them a relegation team? no...they have become a top half epl team just through hard work and a good manager. same as udi. fact is undinese finish 4TH last year!, so they are not a relegation team. simpauls
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Post by Patrick Bateman Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:25 pm

Guidolin is a top manager I can see him at a different club next season.


All the best managers are at the smaller clubs.

Just look at Italys top clubs

Milan - Allegri
Inter - Ranieri
Juve - Conte
Roma - Enrique


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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:26 pm

we have half squad injured, so we have an excuse :coffee:
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:28 pm

The Fonz wrote:Guidolin is a top manager I can see him at a different club next season.


All the best managers are at the smaller clubs.

Just look at Italys top clubs

Milan - Allegri
Inter - Ranieri
Juve - Conte
Roma - Enrique


:facepalm:

So you expect old and experienced managers to return?

Don't you appreciate the fresh and young talent of managers?

Conte has shown his ability already while Enrique is full of modern and ambitious ideas. Allegri? He has spoken with a Serie A title at the age of 43.

Ranieri is facepalm worthy though.

But the point is, this is a new generation.
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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:31 pm

Mazzari will be great too. Italy has a lot of coaches with potential, while England for example has none
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Post by Patrick Bateman Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:41 pm

Arquitecto wrote:
The Fonz wrote:Guidolin is a top manager I can see him at a different club next season.


All the best managers are at the smaller clubs.

Just look at Italys top clubs

Milan - Allegri
Inter - Ranieri
Juve - Conte
Roma - Enrique


:facepalm:

So you expect old and experienced managers to return?

Don't you appreciate the fresh and young talent of managers?

Conte has shown his ability already while Enrique is full of modern and ambitious ideas. Allegri? He has spoken with a Serie A title at the age of 43.

Ranieri is facepalm worthy though.

But the point is, this is a new generation.


My point is that all the best managers are at the smaller clubs.Guidolin,Reja and Mazzari for example.
It will be a long time again before an Italian club wins the Champions League.
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Post by Grande_Milano Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:42 pm

The Fonz wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:
The Fonz wrote:Guidolin is a top manager I can see him at a different club next season.


All the best managers are at the smaller clubs.

Just look at Italys top clubs

Milan - Allegri
Inter - Ranieri
Juve - Conte
Roma - Enrique


:facepalm:

So you expect old and experienced managers to return?

Don't you appreciate the fresh and young talent of managers?

Conte has shown his ability already while Enrique is full of modern and ambitious ideas. Allegri? He has spoken with a Serie A title at the age of 43.

Ranieri is facepalm worthy though.

But the point is, this is a new generation.


My point is that all the best managers are at the smaller clubs.Guidolin,Reja and Mazzari for example.
It will be a long time again before an Italian club wins the Champions League.

And how do you know that?
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Post by Patrick Bateman Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:47 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:
The Fonz wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:
The Fonz wrote:Guidolin is a top manager I can see him at a different club next season.


All the best managers are at the smaller clubs.

Just look at Italys top clubs

Milan - Allegri
Inter - Ranieri
Juve - Conte
Roma - Enrique


:facepalm:

So you expect old and experienced managers to return?

Don't you appreciate the fresh and young talent of managers?

Conte has shown his ability already while Enrique is full of modern and ambitious ideas. Allegri? He has spoken with a Serie A title at the age of 43.

Ranieri is facepalm worthy though.

But the point is, this is a new generation.


My point is that all the best managers are at the smaller clubs.Guidolin,Reja and Mazzari for example.
It will be a long time again before an Italian club wins the Champions League.

And how do you know that?

Milan last season knocked out by Spurs.

Inter hammered by Schalke.

We got battered by Shakhtar.

3 Champions league spots for next seasons Champs league and with the current managers in charge of these clubs it doesn't look to good.Just my honest opinion.Sure we even got knocked by Slovan in the Europa league and Palermo by Thun... :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post by Patrick Bateman Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:48 pm

France will overtake us at this rate. :facepalm:
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:00 pm

I am not going through this debate again. :facepalm:
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Post by Eivindo Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:04 pm

Udinese has a core of really hard-working players on mid and at the back. The coach is obviously an inspiring figure for them. I wish Milan had a player like Asamoah for instance, speedy bulldog in the middle.
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Post by Patrick Bateman Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:08 pm

Arquitecto wrote:I am not going through this debate again. :facepalm:

Open your eyes the days of Italian clubs ruling europe are long gone and we won't see it again for a long long time.It's the truth.

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Post by Swanhends Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:44 pm

I agree with The Fonz...I'm biased obviously but I don't rate Allegri as a WC coach by any means
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Post by McLewis Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:58 pm

Why so pessimistic, Fonz?

Nothing last forever. That means the current EPL/La Liga dominance as well as Serie A decline/transition.

Things like this take time.

Just enjoy the football, man.
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Post by red&blacklegion Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:03 pm

Guidolin is a very good coach but someone has to give credit to the people who find all these great players(armero,Badu,Isla,Asamoah) they seriously should win a Noble prize!
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Post by chinomaster182 Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:20 am

Grande_Milano wrote:Mazzari will be great too. Italy has a lot of coaches with potential, while England for example has none

England can buy all the best coaches in the world, not a problem.
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Post by michael1 Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:11 am

lol who said undinese will be relegated this season lol

they be atleast mid table by the end of the season
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Post by S Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:16 am

The Fonz wrote:My point is that all the best managers are at the smaller clubs.Guidolin,Reja and Mazzari for example.

Reja is a good coach for a mid-table team..He is not a top level coach..

Someone like Guidolin would have been perfect for Roma as he likes to work with young players and groom them into future stars..
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