Xavi by miles actually

He has taken his team to another level weather pep used him well or not,his extream technical skills combined with uncomparable brain had influence in whole teams he played.

Best player in euro hands down.

one of best players in World cup .

Look at his barcelona,being the engine of all time best team in the world is no joke.Scholes in not in the same league of xavi.

Hate to say it but its Scholes he has no epic sidekick nor does he need one (yes I know Keane in a way was).

Ade wrote:Hate to say it but its Scholes he has no epic sidekick nor does he need one (yes I know Keane in a way was).

The Xavi needs Iniesta argument was put to rest in the 09-10 season when Iniesta was out injured and Xavi was imperious.
Anything else.

Actually i lol hard when some on try to convince iniesta is a better player than xavi.

Iniesta is atleast two level below xavi imo.

alexjanosik wrote:

Ade wrote:Hate to say it but its Scholes he has no epic sidekick nor does he need one (yes I know Keane in a way was).

The Xavi needs Iniesta argument was put to rest in the 09-10 season when Iniesta was out injured and Xavi was imperious.
Anything else.

Where was he when they played inter then? Barcelona would steam roller teams with or without xavi tbh. Messi will always be Barcas most important player.

Adit wrote:Xavi by miles actually

He has taken his team to another level weather pep used him well or not,his extream technical skills combined with uncomparable brain had influence in whole teams he played.

Best player in euro hands down.

one of best players in World cup .

Look at his barcelona,being the engine of all time best team in the world is no joke.Scholes in not in the same league of xavi.

Which is why all the greatest MF in the last 20 years have all said scholes was the best including Xavi and Pep. So much so that barca players picked straws from a hat to see who got his shirt afetr the CL final. Iniesta won and got his shirt. Players like scholes and xavi were underrated but xavi has become so ovverasted by the media its a joke.

jibers wrote:

alexjanosik wrote:

Ade wrote:Hate to say it but its Scholes he has no epic sidekick nor does he need one (yes I know Keane in a way was).

The Xavi needs Iniesta argument was put to rest in the 09-10 season when Iniesta was out injured and Xavi was imperious.
Anything else.

Where was he when they played inter then? Barcelona would steam roller teams with or without xavi tbh. Messi will always be Barcas most important player.

So we are going to pick single games and judge are we?
I can pick countless games where Scholes failed miserably.
Fact reamains that xavi was imperious without Iniesta in 09-10.
In the league decider at the Bernabeau he put in a MOM performance without Iniesta.
At the Emirates in arguably the greatest display of football ever he destroyed Arsenal without Iniesta.
This is notwithstanding the early part of Xavi's career when he had no Iniesta.
What about when he was voted La Liga player of the year in 04-05.There was no Iniesta then.
Fact reamains that Xavi has dominated the biggest games on the continent a countless times.
Scholes on the other hand hasnt.
Xavi wins.

I actually rate Scholes on par with xavi, consistency I would rate Xavi higher, but in terms of ability i rate scholes.

Watching Scholes play for his entire career, I would most certainly take Scholes at his best over Xavi at his best.

Scholes can play in any formation/system and adapt and still be amazing. Xavi can only play in one system and one style, very one dimensional player (although amazingly good in that dimension) I would much prefer to take the x-factor and the dynamic Scholes.

Crimson wrote:Watching Scholes play for his entire career, I would most certainly take Scholes at his best over Xavi at his best.

Scholes can play in any formation/system and adapt and still be amazing. Xavi can only play in one system and one style, very one dimensional player (although amazingly good in that dimension) I would much prefer to take the x-factor and the dynamic Scholes.

Very good points.

Scholes was an amazing, amazing midfielder and i mean no disrespect to Xavi who was also amazing at his best. I saw scholes live on several occasions as well as on TV many times... he was one of the best of all-time at his position. He just dominated games. Every midfielder of every generation will rate him very highly. I bet you that even Xavi and every other current Barca player would admit without hesitation that Scholes was better than Xavi. He was that good.... and it's nothing to be ashamed of for Xavi.

sportsczy wrote:Scholes was an amazing, amazing midfielder and i mean no disrespect to Xavi who was also amazing at his best. I saw scholes live on several occasions as well as on TV many times... he was one of the best of all-time at his position. He just dominated games. Every midfielder of every generation will rate him very highly. I bet you that even Xavi and every other current Barca player would admit without hesitation that Scholes was better than Xavi. He was that good.... and it's nothing to be ashamed of for Xavi.

Great post!

Scholes is better. Simply put, he did everything Xavi does for a much longer and consistent period + score great goals.

Xavi only started to shine from 2008 under this new Barca look. Before that, he wasn't what he is now.

Scholes is much better.

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Scholes is better. Simply put, he did everything Xavi does for a much longer and consistent period + score great goals.

Xavi only started to shine from 2008 under this new Barca look. Before that, he was nothing special.

Scholes is much better.

I would say Xavi is more consistent. then again Pedro is more consistent than benzema but that doesnt make him better imho.

Oh might I add as well, Scholes is Xavi's inspiration and Xavi in the recent interview said he(scholes) was the best midfielder of the last 20 years.

The man himself even admitted Scholes is better.

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Oh might I add as well, Scholes is Xavi's inspiration and Xavi in the recent interview said he(scholes) was the best midfielder of the last 20 years.

The man himself even admitted Scholes is better.

so have all the best MF in the last 20 years as well. Scholes is the best cm for me. As i said, i would have loved to see xavi tyr and dictate the tempo for a team that plays through the flanks like us. He would barely get a sniff of the ball. Ronaldo and Nani have both said that Scholes is the best they ever played with as well. When professionals of that level say it, you listen.

jibers wrote:

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Oh might I add as well, Scholes is Xavi's inspiration and Xavi in the recent interview said he(scholes) was the best midfielder of the last 20 years.

The man himself even admitted Scholes is better.

so have all the best MF in the last 20 years as well. Scholes is the best cm for me. As i said, i would have loved to see xavi tyr and dictate the tempo for a team that plays through the flanks like us. He would barely get a sniff of the ball. Ronaldo and Nani have both said that Scholes is the best they ever played with as well. When professionals of that level say it, you listen.

Exactly. When a player gets that kind've respect, he is in a league of his own imo.

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Scholes is better. Simply put, he did everything Xavi does for a much longer and consistent period + score great goals.

Xavi only started to shine from 2008 under this new Barca look. Before that, he wasn't what he is now.

Scholes is much better.

Not true at all.Scholes has never ever dominated a midfield like Xavi has done in the biggest of games.
Just hasnt.He was a decent playmaker in his later years but a couple of levels below Xavi.

I'll save my long-winded opinions for later because something more important has caught my eye and thats the notion that Xavi was only known after 08.

If some actually closely followed, they would know Xavi has been World Class way before that even as the simple fact that he was so underrated that my voice went hoarse stating this (not literally).

Xavi before 08 was like Statistics, as in, the most underrated portion of the beautiful world of mathematics.

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Oh might I add as well, Scholes is Xavi's inspiration and Xavi in the recent interview said he(scholes) was the best midfielder of the last 20 years.

The man himself even admitted Scholes is better.

I would take that quote with a pinch of salt. I know that alot of people here see xavi as arrogant but when it comes to praising himself, Xavi is very humble.

Xavi has no problem overhyping his own teammates/coach/team but when it comes to himself, he has never said anything arrogant..

How can people pick Scholes?
Honestly I bet half the people who constantly say Messi ain't the best because he's not good with the NT blahblahblah went and picked Scholes ahead of Xavi even though Xavi WON a Euro and WC and Scholes has nothing! WHILE PICKING UP A BEST PLAYER AT THE EURO'S ASWELL AND TWICE COMING THIRD IN POTY!

Absoloutly ridiculous. Not to mention Xavi own's Scholes in general play and the things that a deep-lying playmaker/box-to-box is meant to have (shooting notwithstanding).

ausbaz wrote:How can people pick Scholes?
Honestly I bet half the people who constantly say Messi ain't the best because he's not good with the NT blahblahblah went and picked Scholes ahead of Xavi even though Xavi WON a Euro and WC and Scholes has nothing! WHILE PICKING UP A BEST PLAYER AT THE EURO'S ASWELL AND TWICE COMING THIRD IN POTY!

Absoloutly ridiculous. Not to mention Xavi own's Scholes in general play and the things that a deep-lying playmaker/box-to-box is meant to have (shooting notwithstanding).

Were you even old enough to see Scholes is his prime, lad?

Saw very few of Scholes as it wasn't the easiest task to watch the EPL in Australia, but from achievements accolades and performances over the past four years/european performances over the last ten Xavi by a country mile.

ausbaz wrote:Saw very few of Scholes as it wasn't the easiest task to watch the EPL in Australia, but from achievements accolades and performances over the past four years/european performances over the last ten Xavi by a country mile.

Then don't comment

Crimson wrote:

ausbaz wrote:Saw very few of Scholes as it wasn't the easiest task to watch the EPL in Australia, but from achievements accolades and performances over the past four years/european performances over the last ten Xavi by a country mile.

Then don't comment

You mad?
What I have seen of Scholes which is a considerable amount, he is no where near Xavi and never has been.

ausbaz wrote:

Crimson wrote:

ausbaz wrote:Saw very few of Scholes as it wasn't the easiest task to watch the EPL in Australia, but from achievements accolades and performances over the past four years/european performances over the last ten Xavi by a country mile.

Then don't comment

You mad?
What I have seen of Scholes which is a considerable amount, he is no where near Xavi and never has been.

Which is it? Make up your mind....if your going to lie at least do a better job ffs