the tactics was all fine problem was 2 of the subs.

need sometime to understand this match.and dont know what happen with Krasic probably not even Krasic understand it.

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

when did Matri get injured?

playing Sienna, give Bonucci a chance?

what about Elia who needs to get used to the system?

what about Quags?

am sorry but it just doesn't make no sense...

Conte's first team is what he played....

and am sorry but soon excellent players like Elia, Vidal, Krasic, Quags and co would ask for transfers cos of playing time...

I thought it was quite the disgusting play of football in contrast to the show against Parma.
There is grinding out wins and there is just playing plain ugly, this was definitely the latter.

Conte plays a system dependent on wing play and the wingers he chooses are Giacch and Pepe. I absolutely love Conte's mentality, I love that he uses his subs early to influence the game and I love his tactics. However, through two matches I am very unhappy with the player selections.

I don't care how hard Pepe works, he has to work that hard because he is so damn wasteful he has to make up for it. Vucinic was also disappointing but he showed a glimpse of his character through the build up to Matri's goal.

Three points is three points but this is a shocking one week turn considering the squad should be growing, not digressing like this.

for the record Matri and Chiellini got cramps they asked for Sub ....

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

if he wanted to do something like this should remove Grosso swap Chiel at the left and Bon in place of Chiel.

and if Matri got injured no meaning to play Del Piero there as Del Piero cant play as main striker.Qual was a better choice.

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

The problem is his selection of players.

sorry apart of Krasic instead of Giaccherini selection was good.

elmystique wrote:

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

when did Matri get injured?Just before his substitution he got injured , check it out

playing Sienna, give Bonucci a chance?Why not , no harm done

what about Elia who needs to get used to the system?He joined a few weeks ago and we have played 2 competitive matches, he needs to earn it and we do have number of wingers and it is not as if he is some Ronaldo or messi , he is just elia.

what about Quags?Quags or Del piero when we need stability ???

am sorry but it just doesn't make no sense...

Conte's first team is what he played....

and am sorry but soon excellent players like Elia, Vidal, Krasic, Quags and co would ask for transfers cos of playing time...Let them ask , everybody earns their spot it is not given to them. This is Juve where you earn your spot and their is competition for it. If they cant handle it so be it.

You need more questions which have to be answered??

scirea6 wrote:

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

and am sure Estigaribbia speaks Arabic......

vidal is a starter
quag should get a chance (he could be subbed for matri)
pepe is better on right (elia could play on left)

DOES ANY1 READ WHAT I WRITE TUTTOJUVE REPORTS : MATRI AND CHIELLINI HAD CRAMPS U NOTICED THEY WANTED SUB AND THEY ASKED FOR THEM

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

That part in red is a really interesting point, I didn't realize that before. Spanish and Italian are somewhat similar, so Vidal might be finding communication with his teammates much easier than it is with Elia. Not to mention that Vidal was here about a week or 2 before Elia.

7amood11 wrote:

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

That part in red is a really interesting point, I didn't realize that before. Spanish and Italian are somewhat similar, so Vidal might be finding communication with his teammates much easier than it is with Elia. Not to mention that Vidal was here about a week or 2 before Elia.

Estigaribbia doesn't even get a call-up

/Spanish wise....

elmystique wrote:

scirea6 wrote:

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

and am sure Estigaribbia speaks Arabic......

You never brought esti into the equation while discussing Elia and Vidal. I have no idea why he is being left out and neither do you. . DId he not play the copa america , so maybe he is not fit enough for Conte.

Smoking is injurious to your health and brain so maybe you should smoke less.

Before u speak. Make sure u understand what u r saying and ur point is valid. A lesson learnt for a few here!!!!!!!!! Cough elm

scirea6 wrote:

elmystique wrote:

scirea6 wrote:

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

and am sure Estigaribbia speaks Arabic......

You never brought esti into the equation while discussing Elia and Vidal. I have no idea why he is being left out and neither do you. . DId he not play the copa america , so maybe he is not fit enough for Conte.

Smoking is injurious to your health and brain so maybe you should smoke less.

elmystique wrote:

7amood11 wrote:

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

That part in red is a really interesting point, I didn't realize that before. Spanish and Italian are somewhat similar, so Vidal might be finding communication with his teammates much easier than it is with Elia. Not to mention that Vidal was here about a week or 2 before Elia.

Estigaribbia doesn't even get a call-up

/Spanish wise....

Who knows why he wasn't called-up? Could be lack of fitness, who knows? And Estigarribia also arrived later than Vidal.

pasquale22 wrote:Before u speak. Make sure u understand what u r saying and ur point is valid. A lesson learnt for a few here!!!!!!!!! Cough elm

did u even read Scirea6's opinion on the Spanish part?

/cough perhaps it is you who needs to make valid pts.

/cough Pepe >>> Krasic.......[cough]

Esti is not match fit guys .... he got a minor knock against Notts

7amood11 wrote:

elmystique wrote:

7amood11 wrote:

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

That part in red is a really interesting point, I didn't realize that before. Spanish and Italian are somewhat similar, so Vidal might be finding communication with his teammates much easier than it is with Elia. Not to mention that Vidal was here about a week or 2 before Elia.

Estigaribbia doesn't even get a call-up

/Spanish wise....

Who knows why he wasn't called-up? Could be lack of fitness, who knows? And Estigarribia also arrived later than Vidal.

Estigaribbia trained more than Elia [fact]

doesn't warrant a call-up?

I am happy that Juventus can actually defend now. If people can justify some of the subs then so be it. It's the starting XI that I don't fully get.

Giac is not exactly positive, just an emergency sub. Elia should have made an appearance and Pepe could've been put on the left to give Krasic playing time.

elmystique wrote:

7amood11 wrote:

elmystique wrote:

7amood11 wrote:

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

That part in red is a really interesting point, I didn't realize that before. Spanish and Italian are somewhat similar, so Vidal might be finding communication with his teammates much easier than it is with Elia. Not to mention that Vidal was here about a week or 2 before Elia.

Estigaribbia doesn't even get a call-up

/Spanish wise....

Who knows why he wasn't called-up? Could be lack of fitness, who knows? And Estigarribia also arrived later than Vidal.

Estigaribbia trained more than Elia [fact]

doesn't warrant a call-up?

I just learned now that Estigarribia picked up a knock vs Notts, which makes excluding him from the team an understandable action. Is Conte in the wrong for leaving him out as a precaution? Not at all.

i think conte did right for yelling at Krasic, and all his tactics are right as long as we win. id like to see elia and krasic play, but Conte knows better as long as we win. Someone must show players for jersey they are playing, and someone must have the authority. And conte didn't refused to put krasic on game because that krasic wasn't exercising good, but because matri couldn't continue and conte had only one available substitution left.

7amood11 wrote:

elmystique wrote:

7amood11 wrote:

elmystique wrote:

7amood11 wrote:

scirea6 wrote:Regarding the subs :

1. Vucinic off - Vidal On , as you can see the formation changed to 4-3-3.

2. Chiellini Off - Bonbon On - We were playing solid defensively and siena posed no threat to us , so why not blood Bonbon a little so that he doesnt lose touch and gains confidence.

3. Krasic incident -- Initialyy he was supposed to come on but Matri got injured and that is why Del Piero came on.

Next time follow the match more closely before making comments dissing on Conte.

Isnt spanish a Romance language like Italian?? Unlike dutch or german , so it is much easier for vidal to understand Conte than Elia. For the goal , Pepe crossed to Giach who passed to Vuci who passed to Matri, enuff said.

That part in red is a really interesting point, I didn't realize that before. Spanish and Italian are somewhat similar, so Vidal might be finding communication with his teammates much easier than it is with Elia. Not to mention that Vidal was here about a week or 2 before Elia.

Estigaribbia doesn't even get a call-up

/Spanish wise....

Who knows why he wasn't called-up? Could be lack of fitness, who knows? And Estigarribia also arrived later than Vidal.

Estigaribbia trained more than Elia [fact]

doesn't warrant a call-up?

I just learned now that Estigarribia picked up a knock vs Notts, which makes excluding him from the team an understandable action. Is Conte in the wrong for leaving him out as a precaution? Not at all.

its funny it never got mentioned on the Official website, neither has Conte ever mentioned it...

Conte said yesterday that Elia and Esti both had their first full week of training.
Meaning that Esti is fit, how else could he have a full week of training, think about it.

Luca wrote:Conte said yesterday that Elia and Esti both had their first full week of training.
Meaning that Esti is fit, how else could he have a full week of training, think about it.

exactly, makes no sense...