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Post by pasquale22 Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:15 pm

Pretty straight forward . Rank our most valuable players right now . As in the players who you would pick first on the team sheet against Siena. With all players fit and ready to go. From 1-11
Here's mine

Pirlo> Lichsteiner> chiellini> marchisio> pepe> Vucinic> del piero> krasic> grosso> barzagli> Buffon

I choose Buffon last because I think storari could cover just as well
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Post by Luca Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:22 pm

Pirlo>Lichtsteiner> Chiellini> Marchisio> Elia=Krasic> Vucinic> Matri> Buffon> Barzagli>Grosso

Maybe Barzagli and Buffon switched aroud.

Pretty simple:
Pirlo was fantastic against Parma
Lichtsteiner is the best full back on the team
Chiellini is the heart of the defense and the team at times
Marchisio is Pirlo's partner, very important
Next is the wingers because Conte plays a 4-2-4, excellent wingers are a requirement.
Vucinic is a dynamic striker, I would definitely start him if fit, next to Matri makes sense but he could do well with any striker on Juventus in my opinion he has that style.
Grosso = bottom of barrel, I bet he does well offensively, maybe scores or provides an assist but defensively I am not counting on him, looking at this time they would have no problems operating offensively without him so I don't rate him highly. However, Grosso makes Chiellini, Barzagli and Buffon's job a little tougher possibly.

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Post by LWL91 Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:41 pm

Lichtsteiner is out MVP at the moment.its simple.. without him we would stick with motta as RB and that is simply worse then having vidal taking over pirlo as i would agree is our second most important player.. yet again.. we have a sub, if licht goes injured were down to 10 man..
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Post by Luca Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:47 pm

Good point ^^

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Post by eddy Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:47 pm

i cant say who is most value atm.season just started.

i can agree that Lichtsteiner is very important part of that project.RB is a hard spot to find a good player cant think alot crazy good RBs around the world.

but i think the most value atm is Conte.no matter what players we had we was about to fail with Del Neri.

atm Conte gave the team winning mentality!i hope things will continue like this.

and i am happy with all players in squad but cant say who is more value than another because things will change as we move on.

ah and i forgot the 12 player that is very important too!our new stadium!!
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Post by Vibe Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:47 pm

You guys really are something
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:49 pm

VibeTribe wrote:You guys really are something

Please elaborate. smoking
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Post by pasquale22 Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:50 pm

VibeTribe wrote:You guys really are something
?? Hows that
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Post by pasquale22 Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:52 pm

I don't want this to become a thread were we argue so u know what. How about we ignore that comment and u go back to ur inter section







Inter *bleep*
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Post by Vibe Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:54 pm

1 game Lichtsteiner more important than Chiellini,Matri,Krasic,Del Piero,Marchisio,Buffon,Quagliarella,Bonucci....

1 game.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:57 pm

double post. :facepalm:


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Post by Luca Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:58 pm

VibeTribe wrote:1 game Lichtsteiner more important than Chiellini,Matri,Krasic,Del Piero,Marchisio,Buffon,Quagliarella,Bonucci....

1 game.

You didn't read the original post correctly.
He is saying value for the game against Siena, just Siena.
Not actual value of the players to the team.

If we are going by value:
Chiellini> all

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:59 pm



I believe it's who's most valuable to the team as in, if they were out how much of a negative effect it would have for Siena. Not who's better.

E.G if Licht is out, motta comes in. No need to comment on Motta.
If Chiellini is out, Bonucci comes in and he's a hell of a bench player to have.
If Pirlo is out, nobody can properly cover for him, which would lead to formation/tactic changes.
If Quags it out, one of the 4billion strikers come in.


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Post by pasquale22 Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:59 pm

If you read it properly it says for this weeks game against Siena. Not overall. In the long term I think Pdc is one of our most important since we have no Lb's for this week we I'm guessing they put lich ahead of pirlo cause Vidal and marchi r In form whilst at rb we have nobody else as backup
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:54 pm

TomJuve wrote:

I believe it's who's most valuable to the team as in, if they were out how much of a negative effect it would have for Siena. Not who's better.

E.G if Licht is out, motta comes in. No need to comment on Motta.
If Chiellini is out, Bonucci comes in and he's a hell of a bench player to have.
If Pirlo is out, nobody can properly cover for him, which would lead to formation/tactic changes.
If Quags it out, one of the 4billion strikers come in.

but Motta is the best RB ever ? Razz
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:28 pm

elmystique wrote:
TomJuve wrote:

I believe it's who's most valuable to the team as in, if they were out how much of a negative effect it would have for Siena. Not who's better.

E.G if Licht is out, motta comes in. No need to comment on Motta.
If Chiellini is out, Bonucci comes in and he's a hell of a bench player to have.
If Pirlo is out, nobody can properly cover for him, which would lead to formation/tactic changes.
If Quags it out, one of the 4billion strikers come in.

but Motta is the best RB ever ? Razz

You're just being stupid. We all know he's only top 3. Razz Razz Razz
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Post by Luca Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:47 pm

Of course
Abate, Maicon, Motta

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Post by pasquale22 Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:55 am

Motta> dani Alves. I reckon if we were to play motta in RM ...

Motta> messi
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