For example, I would divide them something like this:

Bracket 1 (a class above the rest):
Barcelona
Manchester United
Real Madrid

Bracket 2 (just a step below):
Bayern Munich
Manchester City
Chelsea
Milan

Bracket 3 (further down...):
Arsenal
Valencia
Porto
Inter

Bracket 4:
Liverpool
Dortmund
Juventus
Atl. Madrid
Lille
Lyon
PSG
Villarreal
Sevilla
Tottenham
Benfica

I'm sure I forgot to place some teams and I know my rating is far from complete, but I think that the "bracket view" is rather interesting since I'm sure most people do this kind of dividing in their head in terms of how they rate teams. So post yours.

1.
Barca
2.
Manu
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
3.
Manchester City
Chelsea
Milan
4.
Liverlol
Arsenal
Valencia
Porto
Inter
5.
The unknown

why does everybody rate chelsea so high?
they are nowhere near man u and man city in the premier league, far less anywhere near to the big european clubs

I'm not sure you can put Arsenal above Dortmund. I think they are more on equal terms if you look at the CL match they played (Dortmund would easily have won it if they would have put some of their numerous chances into the net, but then it was their home ground, so I'd rate them equals).

Level 1- Barca, Real Madrid, Manchester United
Level 2- Man City, Bayern Munich, Milan, Chelsea
Level 3- Porto, Inter, Arsenal, Valencia...

Yeah, so I agree with the OP and it seems like everyone has the same idea really.

Tier 1:Barcelona
Tier 2: Manchester United
Tier 3: Bayern Munich, Real Madrid
Tier 4: Villareal, Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Leverkusen, Chelsea
Tier 5: Porto, Shakter Donesk, Valencia, Inter, Arsenal

Well, I think Bayern might get into tier 2 as they look pretty good atm, but to finalize that sorting we might wait for the next rounds when they maybe run into one of ManUtd or Real.

c_bernard10 wrote:why does everybody rate chelsea so high?
they are nowhere near man u and man city in the premier league, far less anywhere near to the big european clubs

:lol!:

Anyway my go

Tier 1
Barcelona

Tier 2
Manchester United
Real Madrid
Chelsea
Bayern Munich

Tier 3
Ac Milan
Inter Milan minus Gasperini
FC Porto
Arsenal
Man City
etc

God, some people here have crappy views on football. those who think INTER even in these bad form, belongs in same category as likes of bayer leverkusen, dortmund or arsenal, valencia is a faking noob or just is plain stupid or serie a hater...

This is what i think would be a REALISTIC ranking:

Tier 1: Barcelona, Real Madrid
Tier 2: Man U, Milan, Inter, Bayern
Tier 3: Chelsea, Man City,
Tier 4: , Napoli, Juventus, Porto
Tier 5: Dortmund, Tottenham, Liverpool, Roma, Valencia, Arsenal Benfica etc.

Tier:1 Barca, Real, Manchester Utd, Manchester City, Chelsea, Inter, Milan, Bayern Munchen

Tier 2: Valencia, Tottenham, Porto, Liverpool, Juventus, Arsenal, PSG, Benfica, Atletico, Dortmund, Lille, Sevilla, Roma, Villareal, Napoli, Leverkusen, Napoli, Lyon, etc.

The BoyWonder wrote:God, some people here have crappy views on football. those who think INTER even in these bad form, belongs in same category as likes of bayer leverkusen, dortmund or arsenal, valencia is a faking noob or just is plain stupid or serie a hater...

This is what i think would be a REALISTIC ranking:

Tier 1: Barcelona, Real Madrid
Tier 2: Man U, Milan, Inter, Bayern
Tier 3: Chelsea, Man City,
Tier 4: , Napoli, Juventus, Porto
Tier 5: Dortmund, Tottenham, Liverpool, Roma, Valencia, Arsenal Benfica etc.

a realistic ranking.....yet u have the champions league runners up 3 of the past 4 years in the 2nd Tier behind a team that hasn't made it outta the semis in how long?

thought you judge greatness on what teams have accomplished not how they look on paper

Arsenal in the same bracket as Valencia, Dortmund?

based on what really? current form?

No Shakhtar for anyone but jibers. Mmmk.

Right back section in 3...2...

justdoit_ wrote:No Shakhtar for anyone but jibers. Mmmk.

And I was thinking of putting them, actually.

CSKA > Shaktar.

jibers wrote:Tier 1:Barcelona
Tier 2: Manchester United and Real Madrid
Tier 3: Bayern Munich, Chelsea, City
Tier 4: Arsenal, Villareal, Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Leverkusen, Inter
Tier 5: Porto, Shakter Donesk, Valencia

No Milan in the top 5 tiers lol?

Tier 1: Stoke
Tier 2: Everyone else

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

jibers wrote:Tier 1:Barcelona
Tier 2: Manchester United and Real Madrid
Tier 3: Bayern Munich, Chelsea, City, Milan
Tier 4: Arsenal, Villareal, Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Leverkusen, Inter
Tier 5: Porto, Shakter Donesk, Valencia

No Milan in the top 5 tiers lol?

fixed

Tbh, if looking at individual players, Man U seem to be a step below Barca and Real. However, the team is so organized and well drilled that as a unit, I would place them in the upper tier with Barca and Madrid. Although inter are in bad form, they definitely deserve to be mentioned ahead of teams like dortmund, valencia, arsenal.

Anyways mine would go something like this:

Tier 1: Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man U
Tier 2: Bayern, Milan, Man City (City have no European pedigree and I have my doubts about them but I suppose that simply based on the players that they have, they belong in tier 2)
Tier 3: Inter, Chelsea (you could argue that they belong in tier 2 but they're not that great tbh)
Tier 4: Arsenal, Liverpool, Juventus, Napoli
Tier 5: Porto, Valencia, Roma, Dortmund, etc...

I'm sure you could argue with some of these choices, but this is more or less how they would be ranked. I'll admit that there is some wiggle room though.

i think everyone is overrating city,lets see how they do in CL after 100 years

Lord Hispano wrote:And I was thinking of putting them, actually.

CSKA > Shaktar.

CSKA back in the CL, we'll see this year for sure, bro

Love that Eastern Euro football.


Crazy seeing people put Juventus in already, I'm ready to see what they can do this year.

1.Uefa
2.Real and manchester
3.Bayern.City,chelsea
4.Meelan,Liverpool,Arsenal,Dortmund,Valencia
5.Atletico madrid,Porto,Benfica,Napoli,Inter meelan

Ganso wrote:i think everyone is overrating city,lets see how they do in CL after 100 years

I agree.

They demolish an unsettled Spuds team with a shit defence, beat Wigan and Swansea at home, and are suddenly one of the top dogs in Europe.

1. Everybody but inter milan.
2. Reserved
3. Inter milan.