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Post by Highburied Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:58 am

Chelsea gave away more than 70m just to survive the TOP4 last season...#justsaying

While we were competing for the title with self sustainable model.

Lets say Kroenke and Usmanov sit together = 30B

I really wouldnt want that to happen because 50M signings wont guarantee success *cough* Torres *cough*.


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Post by Red Alert Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:00 am

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Lex wrote:I'd throw the word "experience" in to the fray, but apparently it doesn't matter because, whether you've played with Fulham for two years or you've made your top flight debut, it makes no difference

Why on earth does that matter for United.They can only beat whats infront of them.And its wenger's fault he have to play kids without experience yet United too have injuries but they have players to cover them.

For a fact the average age of both the starting XI's yesterday were 21.So whose fault is that the youngsters have to be thrown at deep end?

Have to think about it mentally though.

SAF makes EVERYONE perform 110% while Wenger just has to stick people on the pitch. There's a huge difference between depth between the two sides. Arsenal have signed no real replacement for the players they've sold. The way they're going, I see them doing a Liverpool like in 09/10. The club mentality at Arsenal is very low. There's no real leader there. There's no real influencial player that's experienced that can help in the back. Their midfield and defence (including keeper) is way too young, and the older ones are currently a joke.
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Post by Ali Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:00 am

So you're basing your traore argument off experience then saying Ramsey is better dispite the fact they are uncomparable, if we got off experience Ramires is better.

no it's not what I'm basing off, but have they even started a pro game? Traore is tall and fast and strong, fantastic in the attack as well and has been playing for like 4 years. It's a player that has been playing for 4 years with great potential and attributes over players that have never? (or hardly) played.

Statistics don't say everything, Malouda contribues far more than Arshavin, I know arsenal fans have wanted him out.
why so? Arshavin gives a lot, he's a big game player, he's a super sub, he is great at dribbling and shooting, and his passing is nothing short of great
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:01 am

highburied wrote:Chelsea gave away more than 70m just to survive the TOP4 last season...#justsaying

While we were competing for the title with self sustainable model.

Lets say Kroenke and Usmanov sit together = 30B

I really wouldnt want that to happen because 50M signings wont guarantee success *cough* Torres *cough*.


You need to start splashing money before you become a small mid table team. Even Man Utd did so despite winning the league last season. Learn from the big boys, friend.

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Post by izzy Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:01 am

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kick mars wrote:What about the current table, does that not count as everything?

No it doesn't. Arsenal players are 10 times better than Chelsea players and that's a fact. Whether you're 17th or 4th, it doesn't matter.

yes because the table is everything 3 games in

Wolves battling for a CL spot. cheers

There is no excuse for losing 8-2 in any match. Even West Brom did much, much, much better. And I'm sure you can say that the Arsenal players that played were better than the ones at West Brom.

As a Chelsea fan, you should know this better than anyone:
There's a difference playing at home than away.

But, i'm not making excuses for Arsenal's defeat, it was shocking.
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Post by Red Alert Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:01 am

highburied wrote:Chelsea gave away more than 70m just to survive the TOP4 last season...#justsaying

While we were competing for the title with self sustainable model.

Lets say Kroenke and Usmanov sit together = 30B

I really wouldnt want that to happen because 50M signings wont guarantee success *cough* Torres *cough*.


It's done well for Liverpool this summer. Suspect
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Post by Ali Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:02 am

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kick mars wrote:What about the current table, does that not count as everything?

No it doesn't. Arsenal players are 10 times better than Chelsea players and that's a fact. Whether you're 17th or 4th, it doesn't matter.

yes because the table is everything 3 games in

Wolves battling for a CL spot. cheers

There is no excuse for losing 8-2 in any match. Even West Brom did much, much, much better. And I'm sure you can say that the Arsenal players that played were better than the ones at West Brom.

And we are giving no excuse, it was a horrible game but we can not be based off 1 game ffs , it was a freak result.

highburied wrote:Chelsea gave away more than 70m just to survive the TOP4 last season...#justsaying

While we were competing for the title with self sustainable model.

Lets say Kroenke and Usmanov sit together = 30B

I really wouldnt want that to happen because 50M signings wont guarantee success *cough* Torres *cough*.


HB !!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Highburied Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:02 am

english_jewel wrote:
highburied wrote:If Chelsea fans bring up Fernando Torres... I bring up Chamakh. (more goals)

If Chelsea fans bring up trophies... I bring up trophies. (more trophies)

etc.. etc...

I dont even know why Chelsea fans are in this thread... we are superior in everything.

I mean EVERYTHING.

Which is why you haven't won anything for 6 years.

It doesnt matter... You need 9 consecutive years of success to reach our level. Which will never happen while you are alive. Unlucky.

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Post by Ali Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:02 am

english_jewel wrote:
highburied wrote:Chelsea gave away more than 70m just to survive the TOP4 last season...#justsaying

While we were competing for the title with self sustainable model.

Lets say Kroenke and Usmanov sit together = 30B

I really wouldnt want that to happen because 50M signings wont guarantee success *cough* Torres *cough*.


You need to start splashing money before you become a small mid table team. Even Man Utd did so despite winning the league last season. Learn from the big boys, friend.

big boys with 6 years of history ?
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Post by Senor Penguin Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:04 am

Good grief this thread is nauseating.

The only part I liked about it was the self-proclaimed "Internet legend" losing popularity. 👽

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Post by Kick Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:05 am

Traore can't defend! They both have experience in starting games. They are younger and will get much more game time.

Arshavin really stood up against united, rallied the troops and fought back, by trying to get himself sent off? Pretty sure united counts as a big game.
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Post by Ali Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:05 am

Senor Penguin wrote:Good grief this thread is nauseating.

The only part I liked about it was the self-proclaimed "Internet legend" losing popularity. 👽

who? xD I didn't read it all
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Post by Ali Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:06 am

kick mars wrote:Traore can't defend! They both have experience in starting games. They are younger and will get much more game time.

Arshavin really stood up against united, rallied the troops and fought back, by trying to get himself sent off? Pretty sure united counts as a big game.

yes Arshavin was the only person who did not perform against United, KICK MARS YOU ARE A GENIUS !

Malouda was a great player in the 3-1 loss against us
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Post by Red Alert Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:06 am

kick mars wrote:Traore can't defend! They both have experience in starting games. They are younger and will get much more game time.

Arshavin really stood up against united, rallied the troops and fought back, by trying to get himself sent off? Pretty sure united counts as a big game.

With Mars on this one.

Traore sucks defensively.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:06 am

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english_jewel wrote:
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kick mars wrote:What about the current table, does that not count as everything?

No it doesn't. Arsenal players are 10 times better than Chelsea players and that's a fact. Whether you're 17th or 4th, it doesn't matter.

yes because the table is everything 3 games in

Wolves battling for a CL spot. cheers

There is no excuse for losing 8-2 in any match. Even West Brom did much, much, much better. And I'm sure you can say that the Arsenal players that played were better than the ones at West Brom.

As a Chelsea fan, you should know this better than anyone:
There's a difference playing at home than away.

But, i'm not making excuses for Arsenal's defeat, it was shocking.

You're not making any excuses for the defeat yet you're pointing out they were the away team? I'm confused.

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english_jewel wrote:
highburied wrote:If Chelsea fans bring up Fernando Torres... I bring up Chamakh. (more goals)

If Chelsea fans bring up trophies... I bring up trophies. (more trophies)

etc.. etc...

I dont even know why Chelsea fans are in this thread... we are superior in everything.

I mean EVERYTHING.

Which is why you haven't won anything for 6 years.

It doesnt matter... You need 9 consecutive years of success to reach our level. Which will never happen while you are alive. Unlucky.


You shouldn't be talking about the future, it just seems, oh, just so bleak for you guys.

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Post by Senor Penguin Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:08 am

ali8775 wrote:
Senor Penguin wrote:Good grief this thread is nauseating.

The only part I liked about it was the self-proclaimed "Internet legend" losing popularity. 👽

who? xD I didn't read it all
Cyberman arguing against Arsenal fans! bounce

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Post by Highburied Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:09 am

Its funny isnt it?

Chelsea are copying our youth model because they are being rejected in big signings, Aguero, Neymar, and many more... Remember Robinho?

You cannot attract big stars anymore.

Mancini says: MOVE OVER SMALL BUDGET CLUB!



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Post by izzy Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:10 am

english_jewel wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
ali8775 wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
kick mars wrote:What about the current table, does that not count as everything?

No it doesn't. Arsenal players are 10 times better than Chelsea players and that's a fact. Whether you're 17th or 4th, it doesn't matter.

yes because the table is everything 3 games in

Wolves battling for a CL spot. cheers

There is no excuse for losing 8-2 in any match. Even West Brom did much, much, much better. And I'm sure you can say that the Arsenal players that played were better than the ones at West Brom.

As a Chelsea fan, you should know this better than anyone:
There's a difference playing at home than away.

But, i'm not making excuses for Arsenal's defeat, it was shocking.

You're not making any excuses for the defeat yet you're pointing out they were the away team? I'm confused.

highburied wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
highburied wrote:If Chelsea fans bring up Fernando Torres... I bring up Chamakh. (more goals)

If Chelsea fans bring up trophies... I bring up trophies. (more trophies)

etc.. etc...

I dont even know why Chelsea fans are in this thread... we are superior in everything.

I mean EVERYTHING.

Which is why you haven't won anything for 6 years.

It doesnt matter... You need 9 consecutive years of success to reach our level. Which will never happen while you are alive. Unlucky.


You shouldn't be talking about the future, it just seems, oh, just so bleak for you guys.

My god man. No

Is Old Trafford some sort of ground where the away team is gaurunteed a good result?
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Post by izzy Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:10 am

I'm done.
Time for a late breakfast.
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Post by Ali Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:11 am

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kick mars wrote:Traore can't defend! They both have experience in starting games. They are younger and will get much more game time.

Arshavin really stood up against united, rallied the troops and fought back, by trying to get himself sent off? Pretty sure united counts as a big game.

With Mars on this one.

Traore sucks defensively.

so you'd pick Bertrand or PVH
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Post by Ali Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:11 am

the future looks bleak for us lol SMH
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Post by Ali Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:12 am

highburied wrote:Its funny isnt it?

Chelsea are copying our youth model because they are being rejected in big signings, Aguero, Neymar, and many more... Remember Robinho?

You cannot attract big stars anymore.

Mancini says: MOVE OVER SMALL BUDGET CLUB!




lmaoo Highburied is a LEGEND!!! Also I agree with Izzy, I'm done here SMH at some of these debates
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Post by Kick Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:13 am

ali8775 wrote:
kick mars wrote:Traore can't defend! They both have experience in starting games. They are younger and will get much more game time.

Arshavin really stood up against united, rallied the troops and fought back, by trying to get himself sent off? Pretty sure united counts as a big game.

yes Arshavin was the only person who did not perform against United, KICK MARS YOU ARE A GENIUS !

Malouda was a great player in the 3-1 loss against us

A big game player is one who shows up in big matchs, where was arshavin? You're argument is wrong.

malouda was fantastic in our 2 0 win over liverpool in 09. You can't pull figures from the past. You have to look at the present mate.

In the present, Malouda is playing well and arshavin isn't.
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Post by Red Alert Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:13 am

NO! STAY!

This is fun. Afro
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Post by BeautifulGame Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:15 am

Honestly its not that their team is so poor that Arsenal lost 8-2.Its their tactics.U dont go to Old trafford and play so openly with a bunch of kids.The tactics from wenger were really naive.

Yes Chelsea or City or Liverpool would have lost to United too yesterday if they were missing 6 first choice players like Arsenal but not this badly badly because they would have employed defensive tactics.Wenger and his inflexible tactics were the main culprit for their embarrassment yesterday not injuries.
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Post by fatman123 Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:15 am

highburied wrote:If Chelsea fans bring up Fernando Torres... I bring up Chamakh. (more goals)

If Chelsea fans bring up trophies... I bring up trophies. (more trophies)

etc.. etc...

I dont even know why Chelsea fans are in this thread... we are superior in everything.

I mean EVERYTHING.


im gonna conceed defeat here, i mean i wish my team had the quality to loose 8-2, i mean to loose by so many goals, to be beaten every single aspect of the match for an entire 90mins just takes so much class its not even funny, arsenal football club, i take my hat off to your performance vs united

and your manager! i wish AVB was dumb enough to replace established first teammers with 10 yr olds and not buy a player whose worth more then 10mil even when our squad is screaming out for quality reinforcments, i mean for as long as hes been in the PL wenger has been a class of his own, i mean first he was wenger the unproven, then wenger the innovator, then wenger the invincible, then wenger the immortal, but now hes just wenger the nutty professor
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