Lex wrote:

fatman123 wrote:ill leave you to sulk in your corner then, me and you both know fans of all the clubs on this forum, including chelsea fans, have bashed torres at some point in time

So we're agreed, that whole "Arsenal fans mock Chelsea" myth is indeed just that, because mocking Torres isn't mocking Chelsea, no matter what sort of spin you put on it

Please just stop. You're saying that the only thing Arsenal fans have ever done to be even considered mocking Chelsea is mock Torres?

Oh and for the likes of Izzcy reading this I'm not "crying" or "moaning" about it because I know it's pretty much vice-versa.

Lex wrote:

fatman123 wrote:even if you do add those three its only 11 players

Like that's not enough?

see just there, you said thirteen, so i want to see who these thirteen players are
now i assume your gonna include fab and nasri in the 13, so lets call it 11 excluding them

Lex wrote:Right, so Chelsea have enough squad depth to adequately replace thirteen first team and back-up players and still survive a meeting with United at OT?

izzy26 wrote:

Well it's not 13 but,
Song
Sagna
Wilshere
Gervinho
Gibbs
Frimpong
Squillachi
Vermaelen

Now consider the importance of these players missing.

And united were missing

Vidic
Ferdinand
Rafeal
Carrick
Fletcher

from their first team apart from few squad players like Valencia and Fabiotoo.It wasnt like United were at full strength.

no one is using injuries as an excuse for this defeat , all I say is that if we had even one of the players out (minus squashit) we would'v done way better then an 8-2

RedEyesWhiteBeard wrote:we all know we are poor but you guys dont need to troll on us and take the piss, we are soo poor atm but you guys are beating us while we are down and i dont understand why, please leave us alone.

Your thread is the worst idea ever. It's like a trolling invitation and indirectly saying 'I'm easy to troll'
I refreain myself from Arsenal bashing, their team was depleted and Wenger doesn't know how to park the bus...

I'd throw the word "experience" in to the fray, but apparently it doesn't matter because, whether you've played with Fulham for two years or you've made your top flight debut, it makes no difference

ali8775 wrote:

fatman123 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

Lex wrote:Did Ramires really cost 19.5 million??

Oh wait I forgot Ramsey is better than Ramires.

... I don't know why I sensed sarcasm there

thatd be because ramires IS better then ramsey

yeah...his running is much better then Ramseys...and his...umm... he's worth every penny.

You have never watched Ramires before, which is why you are going by the general impression that all he does is run.

ynwa wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

kick mars wrote:Gibbs, frimpong and squidy shouldnt be starters for any half decent team.

how the *bleep* are you gonna criticise Frimpong?

He's got you there mars. :geek:

Sorry, forgot Frimpong is wanted all over europe....

i thought I would compare Celsea players to Arsenals starters.

Szczeny is our Cech. Cech is clearly a better player.
jenkinson would be our Ferreira, Last choice RB. i'd take Ferreira.
koscielny would be our Ivanovic, fourth choice CB.
djourou would either be our Alex or Luiz. So far our CB's win.
LB would be Van Aanholt for us as you were playing Traore.
ramsey would be our Ramires or Benayoun.
coquelin would be Romeu for us.
rosicky would be Mceachran.
Walcott could either be Anelka or Sturridge.
RVP is our Drogba.
And finally Arshavin is our Mata.

So with the players you started with compared to ours we have much more depth and with that defence I doubt we'd concede 8 goals.

english_jewel wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

fatman123 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

Lex wrote:Did Ramires really cost 19.5 million??

Oh wait I forgot Ramsey is better than Ramires.

... I don't know why I sensed sarcasm there

thatd be because ramires IS better then ramsey

yeah...his running is much better then Ramseys...and his...umm... he's worth every penny.

You have never watched Ramires before, which is why you are going by the general impression that all he does is run.

no, I'v watched him more then enough times, his passing is mediocre, his dribbling is average, his stamina is the only noticeable quality

ali8775 wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

fatman123 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

Lex wrote:Did Ramires really cost 19.5 million??

Oh wait I forgot Ramsey is better than Ramires.

... I don't know why I sensed sarcasm there

thatd be because ramires IS better then ramsey

yeah...his running is much better then Ramseys...and his...umm... he's worth every penny.

You have never watched Ramires before, which is why you are going by the general impression that all he does is run.

no, I'v watched him more then enough times, his passing is mediocre, his dribbling is average, his stamina is the only noticeable quality

ignorance is bliss

kick mars wrote:

ynwa wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

kick mars wrote:Gibbs, frimpong and squidy shouldnt be starters for any half decent team.

how the *bleep* are you gonna criticise Frimpong?

He's got you there mars. :geek:

Sorry, forgot Frimpong is wanted all over europe....

i thought I would compare Celsea players to Arsenals starters.

Szczeny is our Cech. Cech is clearly a better player.
jenkinson would be our Ferreira, Last choice RB. i'd take Ferreira.
koscielny would be our Ivanovic, fourth choice CB.
djourou would either be our Alex or Luiz. So far our CB's win.
LB would be Van Aanholt for us as you were playing Traore.
ramsey would be our Ramires or Benayoun.
coquelin would be Romeu for us.
rosicky would be Mceachran.
Walcott could either be Anelka or Sturridge.
RVP is our Drogba.
And finally Arshavin is our Mata.

So with the players you started with compared to ours we have much more depth and with that defence I doubt we'd concede 8 goals.

Jenkinson is better then Ferreira, Kos better then Ivanovic, Luiz better then Djourou ... Traore > Van Aanholt easily, Ramsey > Ramires, Coquelin at least has first team experience so > Romeu, Rosicky > Mceachran atm, Walcott is also better then whoever your gonna play, be it Sturridge or Anelka and mind you he's a striker not a winger, RVP is your Drogba but has been on fire recently and atm is better, and how is Arsha your Mata? Doesn't Mata start ?

so you putting your opinion made me put my opinion, and my opinion is our team bare to bones is better then your team bare to the bones...but what did that accomplish ?

ali8775 wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

fatman123 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

Lex wrote:Did Ramires really cost 19.5 million??

Oh wait I forgot Ramsey is better than Ramires.

... I don't know why I sensed sarcasm there

thatd be because ramires IS better then ramsey

yeah...his running is much better then Ramseys...and his...umm... he's worth every penny.

You have never watched Ramires before, which is why you are going by the general impression that all he does is run.

no, I'v watched him more then enough times, his passing is mediocre, his dribbling is average, his stamina is the only noticeable quality

Yet he still makes it into our squad without any question regardless of him being a supposed weak link. Either I believe Ancelloti and Villas-Boas or I believe a teenager like you. Hard pick.

fatman123 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

fatman123 wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

english_jewel wrote:

Lex wrote:Did Ramires really cost 19.5 million??

Oh wait I forgot Ramsey is better than Ramires.

... I don't know why I sensed sarcasm there

thatd be because ramires IS better then ramsey

yeah...his running is much better then Ramseys...and his...umm... he's worth every penny.

You have never watched Ramires before, which is why you are going by the general impression that all he does is run.

no, I'v watched him more then enough times, his passing is mediocre, his dribbling is average, his stamina is the only noticeable quality

ignorance is bliss

I guess that's what you choose to live your life on

It would appear average dribbling won us the game against norwich and scored the best goal of last season for us against man city.

Yes because being picked to play makes him great...searching in the market for a replacement has nothing to do with it...anyway who would you play instead of him gramps ?

kick mars wrote:It would appear average dribbling won us the game against norwich and scored the best goal of last season for us against man city.

Norwich...NORWICH...NORWICHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

BeautifulGame wrote:

izzy26 wrote:

Well it's not 13 but,
Song
Sagna
Wilshere
Gervinho
Gibbs
Frimpong
Squillachi
Vermaelen

Now consider the importance of these players missing.

And united were missing

Vidic
Ferdinand
Rafeal
Carrick
Fletcher

from their first team apart from few squad players like Valencia and Fabiotoo.It wasnt like United were at full strength.

I'm not making excuses, someone wanted a list of the players and I supplied one. All I asked was to consider their importance to Arsenal.

ali8775 wrote:

kick mars wrote:

ynwa wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

kick mars wrote:Gibbs, frimpong and squidy shouldnt be starters for any half decent team.

how the *bleep* are you gonna criticise Frimpong?

He's got you there mars. :geek:

Sorry, forgot Frimpong is wanted all over europe....

i thought I would compare Celsea players to Arsenals starters.

Szczeny is our Cech. Cech is clearly a better player.
jenkinson would be our Ferreira, Last choice RB. i'd take Ferreira.
koscielny would be our Ivanovic, fourth choice CB.
djourou would either be our Alex or Luiz. So far our CB's win.
LB would be Van Aanholt for us as you were playing Traore.
ramsey would be our Ramires or Benayoun.
coquelin would be Romeu for us.
rosicky would be Mceachran.
Walcott could either be Anelka or Sturridge.
RVP is our Drogba.
And finally Arshavin is our Mata.

So with the players you started with compared to ours we have much more depth and with that defence I doubt we'd concede 8 goals.

Jenkinson is better then Ferreira, Kos better then Ivanovic, Luiz better then Djourou ... Traore > Van Aanholt easily, Ramsey > Ramires, Coquelin at least has first team experience so > Romeu, Rosicky > Mceachran atm, Walcott is also better then whoever your gonna play, be it Sturridge or Anelka and mind you he's a striker not a winger, RVP is your Drogba but has been on fire recently and atm is better, and how is Arsha your Mata? Doesn't Mata start ?

Yet you're battling relegation while we're fighting for the title.

SMH were battling relegation 3 games into the season lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

and we'v played Liverpool + United so far while you'v played Norwich...NORWICH.

ali8775 wrote:

kick mars wrote:

ynwa wrote:

ali8775 wrote:

kick mars wrote:Gibbs, frimpong and squidy shouldnt be starters for any half decent team.

how the *bleep* are you gonna criticise Frimpong?

He's got you there mars. :geek:

Sorry, forgot Frimpong is wanted all over europe....

i thought I would compare Celsea players to Arsenals starters.

Szczeny is our Cech. Cech is clearly a better player.
jenkinson would be our Ferreira, Last choice RB. i'd take Ferreira.
koscielny would be our Ivanovic, fourth choice CB.
djourou would either be our Alex or Luiz. So far our CB's win.
LB would be Van Aanholt for us as you were playing Traore.
ramsey would be our Ramires or Benayoun.
coquelin would be Romeu for us.
rosicky would be Mceachran.
Walcott could either be Anelka or Sturridge.
RVP is our Drogba.
And finally Arshavin is our Mata.

So with the players you started with compared to ours we have much more depth and with that defence I doubt we'd concede 8 goals.

Jenkinson is better then Ferreira, Kos better then Ivanovic, Luiz better then Djourou ... Traore > Van Aanholt easily, Ramsey > Ramires, Coquelin at least has first team experience so > Romeu, Rosicky > Mceachran atm, Walcott is also better then whoever your gonna play, be it Sturridge or Anelka and mind you he's a striker not a winger, RVP is your Drogba but has been on fire recently and atm is better, and how is Arsha your Mata? Doesn't Mata start ?

so you putting your opinion made me put my opinion, and my opinion is our team bare to bones is better then your team bare to the bones...but what did that accomplish ?

LOL! That was a hilarious read.

Kos is no way better than Ivanovic. Armond I can't defend Traore better than Patrick next ashley cole Van Aanholt? LOL. ferreira has so much experience on Jenkinson he wins easily.

ramires = Ramsey. coquelin = Romeu and Josh is not as good as Rosicky.
Walcott is hardly better than Anelka or Sturrudge. And no Mata hasn't yet started for us.

ali8775 wrote:Jenkinson is better then Ferreira, Kos better then Ivanovic, Luiz better then Djourou ... Traore > Van Aanholt easily, Ramsey > Ramires, Coquelin at least has first team experience so > Romeu, Rosicky > Mceachran atm, Walcott is also better then whoever your gonna play, be it Sturridge or Anelka and mind you he's a striker not a winger, RVP is your Drogba but has been on fire recently and atm is better, and how is Arsha your Mata? Doesn't Mata start ?

so you putting your opinion made me put my opinion, and my opinion is our team bare to bones is better then your team bare to the bones...but what did that accomplish ?

ok lets break this down
Jenkinson is better then Ferreira --> carls got youth on his side but paulo has the experience which maye get you over the line at OT, close call
Kos better then Ivanovic --> just no
Luiz better then Djourou --> yeah but Djourou ma have the edge in this physicality department
traore > Van Aanholt easily --> not easily, but id take traore
Ramsey > Ramires --> nope
Rosicky > Mceachran atm --> havent seen rosicky this season, but based on last seasons from, no chance in hell
Walcott is also better then whoever your gonna play, be it Sturridge or Anelka --> wallcot > niko no on the others
and amt RVP>drog

english_jewel wrote:Yet you're battling relegation while we're fighting for the title.

3 Games. 3 games.

No surprise Lex is not commenting anymore here. Even he realizes how stupid Ali is being.

ali8775 wrote:Yes because being picked to play makes him great...searching in the market for a replacement has nothing to do with it...anyway who would you play instead of him gramps ?

Modric is not a replacement for Ramires. By the way I'm not gramps, maybe it looks that way seeing your age but I'm actually not.

ali8775 wrote:

kick mars wrote:It would appear average dribbling won us the game against norwich and scored the best goal of last season for us against man city.

Norwich...NORWICH...NORWICHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

No Man City are not Norwich, Man City are the blokes that finished ahead of you.

LOL! That was a hilarious read.

Kos is no way better than Ivanovic. Armond I can't defend Traore better than Patrick next ashley cole Van Aanholt? LOL. ferreira has so much experience on Jenkinson he wins easily.

Why? cuz of his mistake in the CC? Kos was beasting it last season ffs, LMAO, your already calling Van Aanholt the next Ashley Cole? Ffs, how many games has he even played...ever? Squillaci has experience so I guess > Luiz.

ramires = Ramsey. coquelin = Romeu and Josh is not as good as Rosicky.
Walcott is hardly better than Anelka or Sturrudge. And no Mata hasn't yet started for us.

Ramires is no way the equal to Ramsey, Ramsey is better at passing and shooting ,he's almost as fast, has more flair and creativity , his vision is better and he does more then Ramires. Rosicky just returned from injuy last season so I'll give you that he didn't look good last season but overall he is more complete then Mceachran ATM, while Mceachran has potential to "quote joey barton: be infinite times better then him" atm Rosicky has it .

Walcott was also beast most of the times he's played, scored the winner twice against Udinese, and over-all has been playing great.

So because Mata hasn't played he's second string ? So he's going to the bench ?

english_jewel wrote:No surprise Lex is not commenting anymore here. Even he realizes how stupid Ali is being.

why did you have to stoop to personal insults? lol I'm so hurt you think my opinion is stupid, I'm gonna go cry in a corner SMH, I really couldn't give less of a *bleep* what an imbecile like you thinks

english_jewel wrote:

ali8775 wrote:Yes because being picked to play makes him great...searching in the market for a replacement has nothing to do with it...anyway who would you play instead of him gramps ?

Modric is not a replacement for Ramires. By the way I'm not gramps, maybe it looks that way seeing your age but I'm actually not.

ali8775 wrote:

kick mars wrote:It would appear average dribbling won us the game against norwich and scored the best goal of last season for us against man city.

Norwich...NORWICH...NORWICHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

No Man City are not Norwich, Man City are the blokes that finished ahead of you.

So he scored a great goal he's a great player, Maynor Figueroa > Lahm


hen why don't you be a man and place your actual age instead of pussying out and mocking others? choosing to mock what people think due to their age is discrimination I presume which is against forum rules.