Re: Ronaldo with Portugal,,, stil w/o any achievement

by billionmillion Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:44 pm

CR is a bigger flop than Messi in NT. Messi at least won titles for Argentina and was top-10 player in last WC. Where was CR? Before the WC he scored 0 goals in 15 months..nobody even talked about it

The reason why people criticize messi is because people expect more than messi. But what you expect from CR? even his team loses nobody even talk about it. It happened 100 times, portugal lost ton of times, but have you seen any criticism on ronaldo?

and when argentina even makes a draw people jump on Messi. It starts from Argentina media and then all the people in the world start to criticise him. Not fair tbh

by billionmillion Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:49 pm

As for stats CR scored
27 goals in 82 games for Portugal...
and
86 goals in 89 games for R.Madrid

So i ask CR fans, why so much difference?

by paperbackwriter Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:16 pm

billionmillion wrote:CR is a bigger flop than Messi in NT. Messi at least won titles for Argentina and was top-10 player in last WC. Where was CR? Before the WC he scored 0 goals in 15 months..nobody even talked about it

The reason why people criticize messi is because people expect more than messi. But what you expect from CR? even his team loses nobody even talk about it. It happened 100 times, portugal lost ton of times, but have you seen any criticism on ronaldo?

and when argentina even makes a draw people jump on Messi. It starts from Argentina media and then all the people in the world start to criticise him. Not fair tbh

Last time I checked, the biggest pressure on Messi to perform for the NT was in Argentina. Since they have a big ego when it comes their footballing. They want to think that they are competing with Brazil. The biggest criticism against Messi in the NT have been at home soil. While Portugal have a much more relaxed approach to big tourneys and are just happy that they've been so successful in the last decade as they have. Same thing here in Sweden, nobody is hating on Zlatan for not playing on the same level in the NT as he have on a club level. They understand it and are happy that we're so relatively strong either way considering our general level as a football nation.

by BiasedMilanFan3 Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:35 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:Funny how black mamba says Cristiano Ronaldo hasn't won anything with the Portuguese National Team.

You do realize winning a tournament is a group effort, yeah?
Blame the other defenders and midfielders of the Portuguese National Team before you blame the forward, Cristiano Ronaldo.
When is this ever said about Messi? SMH.

Who cares, I was talking about Cristiano and Portugal only

by black mamba Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:44 pm

billionmillion wrote:As for stats CR scored
27 goals in 82 games for Portugal...
and
86 goals in 89 games for R.Madrid

So i ask CR fans, why so much difference?

because he can't do shit w/o a great supporting players

he can't ever creat chances to other like messi

so please, no 1 should tlak about the PL

if players like ronaldo , tevez & even Carrol Laughing

do great at this league

i belive messi will be named the player in the league history after 1 season

by izzy Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:52 pm

What a sad a pathetic thread, filled with so much crap. Rolling Eyes

by Dnmac4 Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:11 pm

Crimson wrote:Ronaldo/Portugal 2004 Euro's lost in the Final

Ronaldo/Portugal 2006 WC got knocked out by eventual finalists France

Ronaldo/Portugal 2008 Euro's got knocked out by eventual finalists Germany

Ronaldo/Portugal 2010 WC got knocked out by eventual winners Spain

Ronaldo plays in a less talented far less attacking squad/formation/system with Portugal, just look at Portugal's defensive record leading into the World Cup

Messi plays in the all attacking star system of Argentina and still has not scored in 16 competitive games for Argentina, nor has he really helped Argentina really show their might despite supposedly being so much better than Ronaldo, in fact Messi's performances almost had Argentina not qualify at all for the World Cup in 2010

This is a crazy post. Let me post two quotes in articles I found. They basically remind everyone that Ronaldo went 16 months w/o scoring for Portugal and they had a very hard time getting into the world cup as well. In fact I believe Portugal and Argentina's qualification struggles for the last World Cup were almost the same and there was huge speculation that neither team may make it and there was even a Nike commercial that people thought could be a jinx when Rooney was living in a trailer, I digress.

"Ronaldo's only goal came in Portugal's 7–0 group stage thrashing of North Korea on 21 June, which marked his first international goal in 16 months."

"Portugal's qualification run for this Cup was poor, as it sneaked into second place in its group by just one point, then was lucky to be matched with an outclassed Bosnian side in the playoffs."

BTW, Portugal beat Bosnia in a play off to get in and Argentina beat Uruguay. What's more difficult?

I wish this thread was never made as I hate Ronaldo vs Messi threads, but the post I quoted pretty much sums up what the poster is saying.

Messi and Ronaldo were great as youngsters for there national teams, Messi winning underage tournaments and the olympics and Ronaldo driving Portugal to Ecro and World cup success. The hard fact is for the last couple of years both have been disappointing and Ronaldo gets more of a pass. I know Argentina has great Offensive players, but Portugal has great defensive players too so it's give and take.

by The Madrid One Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:23 pm

people have to understand, that one shouldnt judge a player by what they expect the player to do, when in fact his whole team sucks.

argentina have messi but they sure arent a great team, and you know why? because the whole team sucks as a whole and messi is part of that team, he cant explode anywhere near as he does in barca.

nor can cr7 always go maradona on everyone.

cant believe people expect everyone to just win singlehandedly for their team

by Babun Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:24 pm

Football is a team sport, 11 vs. 11 Very Happy

by FennecFox7 Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:26 pm

Bosnia >>>>>>>>>>>>costa rica U-21 team

by Dnmac4 Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:30 pm

Giggity5313 wrote:Bosnia >>>>>>>>>>>>costa rica U-21 team

You're correct?????? Don't really see what saying here.

by FennecFox7 Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:25 pm

dnmac4 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:Bosnia >>>>>>>>>>>>costa rica U-21 team

You're correct?????? Don't really see what saying here.

costa rica played with their u-21 team

by ♠Ace Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:04 pm

as some mention, I do tend to agree that Ronaldo gets a free lunch in NT. I guess the expectation is different?

However, I do question the OP's age. Half of his posts are retarded/ignorant.

by Albiceleste Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:09 pm

Argentina is a group of 11 individuals, not a team

Giggity5313 wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:Bosnia >>>>>>>>>>>>costa rica U-21 team

You're correct?????? Don't really see what saying here.
costa rica played with their u-21 team

u23 actually

by FennecFox7 Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:39 am

Lionel Messi wrote:Argentina is a group of 11 individuals, not a team

Giggity5313 wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:Bosnia >>>>>>>>>>>>costa rica U-21 team

You're correct?????? Don't really see what saying here.
costa rica played with their u-21 team
u23 actually

big difference Very Happy

by black mamba Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:28 am

Giggity5313 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Argentina is a group of 11 individuals, not a team

Giggity5313 wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:
Giggity5313 wrote:Bosnia >>>>>>>>>>>>costa rica U-21 team

You're correct?????? Don't really see what saying here.
costa rica played with their u-21 team
u23 actually
big difference

ronaldo scored against Iran in world cup 2006

guess what ... it was a penalty Laughing

this is make him better also

by black mamba Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:31 am

izzy26 wrote:What a sad a pathetic thread, filled with so much crap.

Ronaldo with Portugal,,, stil w/o any achievement - Page 3 J4uO8

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