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WHICH TWO TEAM WILL PROGRESS ?

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Post by Robespierre Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:27 pm

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Post by Nishankly Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:49 pm

Jesp wrote:agreed. intensity wise totally outdone by liverpool. when liverpool can afford to have van dijk, tiago, mane on the bench and still have top players outdo us says everything.

robertson and trent on flanks were crazy too. i thought defensively calabria did good, offensively he couldnt provide much because saelemakers just isnt supportive in terms of anyway. theo was under similar position because he just couldnt abandon defensive duties when salah and trent is constantly pushing but he still provided that threat nonetheless, albeit not too long.

EPL money wins


In our defense, our defense aka back 4 costed 10m in total other than that yeah Klopp and FSG have done great business using the PL money inflow and out to keep us competitive against the big teams even though we might not be on top (net) spenders

@Robes incredible series. Even on GL this group of death does not disappoint.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:30 am

@Nishankly wrote:
Jesp wrote:agreed. intensity wise totally outdone by liverpool. when liverpool can afford to have van dijk, tiago, mane on the bench and still have top players outdo us says everything.

robertson and trent on flanks were crazy too. i thought defensively calabria did good, offensively he couldnt provide much because saelemakers just isnt supportive in terms of anyway. theo was under similar position because he just couldnt abandon defensive duties when salah and trent is constantly pushing but he still provided that threat nonetheless, albeit not too long.

EPL money wins


In our defense, our defense aka back 4 costed 10m in total other than that yeah Klopp and FSG have done great business using the PL money inflow and out to keep us competitive against the big teams even though we might not be on top (net) spenders

@Robes incredible series. Even on GL this group of death does not disappoint.


In Liverpool's case, it's not really about their general spending. Currently, Milan is doing the same kind of cheap but smart buys. The difference is that Liverpool can keep these players because they have a higher salary structure (not extravagantly so), but also because the PL is where it's at, so it's easier to keep players around.

In contrast, nearly every great player we build wants either a ridiculous wage that breaks our entire structure, or goes out to another team. Neither the name of the team or the league commands any respect or attachment from the players. This makes it hard to build a team when others will just come in a poach your talent (similar to what was happening to Arsenal before.
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Post by Kaladin Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:08 am

Milan and Liverpool is simply incomparable, Liverpool rakes in so much more thanks to PL TV deal+matchday revenue (I know COVID stifled attendance, but Milan doesn't even have a stadium), Liverpool can go on to purchase VVD and Alisson for a combined €150m like its chump change, meanwhile we barely managed to afford Tomori's €28m fee and are scraping with 2 year loans+opzione and obligaziones with the rest of our signings.

I cannot stress how vital it is to win some CL games for us (better yet would be to qualify to the next round, which i do not foresee happening) especially since CL money is distributed on a pro-rata basis based on CL co-efficiant rankings (currently we are in Pot 4, which does not bode well) Atalanta for example, managed to only get €3.3m for from the CL TV pool, whilst Inter got around €16m.

€2.7m worth of performance bonuses will be paid out for each match. Where a team wins, they receive the full €2.7m (with the losing team receiving nothing). Where two teams draw, both teams receive €900,000 each and the remaining €900,000 is pooled and redistributed among all clubs playing in the group stage in amounts proportionate to their number of wins.

In any case, qualifying for next year's CL is also vital, its not just a lifeline - its make or break for the big clubs
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Post by Nishankly Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:06 am

150m Chumps change, Liverpool fucking fc rofl , has to be one of the least structured/ thought about lines I've seen on GL recently rofl

This man thinks we are building some kind of galacticos with no repercussion
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Post by Kaladin Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:50 pm

Stop with the numptiness please, you just spent €40m on the Pato of CBs

My point is that Liverpool, can easily go to market if they need to and splash on a player, whereas we are restricted by our finances, Ibizaman and FFP (we go suspended from EL the other season)
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Post by Doc Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:26 pm

I do not get the impression that ES thinks Liverpool can spend without repercussion, just the compared buying power of either team.

Though I'll admit, Liverpool's buying power isn't exactly grand either but I'll quicker see them purchase a 40-50 million player than Milan.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:37 pm

well Milan fans used to bully Inter this summer for Lukaku but it's just same destiny that will happens to them soon ( Theo?)
Italian clubs can't complete with English clubs at least
Big money + salary tripled ... how can you hold on ?
Champions League qualifications means survival for Italian clubs, not more. Arsenal spent 100 mln this year and they didn't get qualified even for Conference League.
English clubs didn't want Super-league, they are already within Superleague
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Post by Casciavit Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:30 pm

Wonder how bad Atleti will park the bus today
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Post by Robespierre Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:14 pm

How is not this a penalty for Atletico?
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Post by Cruijf Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:21 pm

Amazing finish by Leao
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:24 pm

Note to anybody planning on jinxing this: Do not!

Need that thug team to lose.
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Post by Cruijf Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:30 pm

:facepalm:
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:32 pm

oh for god's sakes!
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:44 pm

ref zero control over the game lol
that being said kessie ... sigh..

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:49 pm

lol whole game llorente is down appealing for carding milan players ... this game is a tough one to take

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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:52 pm

@Robespierre wrote:How is not this a penalty for Atletico?


Ball rebounded into Tomori's arm, which was close to his body in a natural position, from a close range. Never a pen.

Doesn't matter, Milan still playing with a red from the 26th minute.
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Post by Warrior Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:54 pm

Domination by Milan even with 10 players after a bs red card

Atletico are clumsy
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Post by Nishankly Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:56 pm

Yesssss the dream pairing going through is onnn. Get in Milan you pessimistic fucks
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:56 pm

i guess its nothing new about simeone atletico that they will be aggressor when they need to be but will their players will fall to the ground with minimal touch.

seems 7 years has changed a lot for milan, gone are the days when u see a game fought hard but fair. nowdays just dive a lot and surround ref to get other players out of the game...

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Post by Lord Spencer Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:57 pm

Even after the red, we were comfortably better. Missed several chances, and fluffed several good attacks with bad decisions or poor dribbles (Leao, Rebic, and Diaz were all guilty of that). This might come to bite us in the ass when Atletico start laying siege in the next half as the players tire out.

Kessie was playing well below par for the entire season, and he got away with it, but it caught up with him in this match. He was easily our worst player even before he got the red. The fact that he was idiotic enough to continue as usual despite being on a yellow was stupid.

That being said, it is unusual for a ref to give two yellows in the first half of a game without even verbally warning the player.

With Liverpool winning against Porto, it is clear that the second place of the group depends heavily on this match, so we need to suffer and defend like hell.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:58 pm

@Nishankly wrote:Yesssss the dream pairing going through is onnn. Get in Milan you pessimistic fucks


XD lol im telling u, win would be amazing feat. holding for another 45 min is looking a bit difficult already because seems lot of players are really tired now.


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Post by Guest Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:00 pm

kessie should have known this better like if he is on yellow .. llorente and other atletico players will do everything to get him carded. and that llorente did. it wasnt even worth a yellow but foul is a foul its upto ref.

very soft but again that kessie should have realized not to take risky takes early

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:00 pm

Unbelievable that fucking Cakir is still allowed to referee games, especially ones involving Madrid teams
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:02 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Unbelievable that fucking Cakir is still allowed to referee games, especially ones involving Madrid teams


i have only seen this coach in few games but is he that bad? XD

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:05 pm

they will likely gonna put griezmann in too to make atletico more attacking,

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