Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Hitskin_logo Hitskin.com

This is a Hitskin.com skin preview
Install the skinReturn to the skin page


Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

+22
iftikhar
Katy Perry
Robespierre
Warrior
BarrileteCosmico
Firenze
M99
danyjr
Kick
Arquitecto
Casciavit
Helmer
Thimmy
Mr Nick09
Doc
Myesyats
VivaStPauli
VanDeezNuts
RealGunner
urbaNRoots
Valkyrja
Hapless_Hans
26 posters

Page 4 of 5 Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Warrior Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:37 pm

Ah i see, he's decent but not great ?

Warrior
FORZA JUVE

Posts : 9555
Join date : 2016-05-25

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by VivaStPauli Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:50 pm

Hugely overrated, and spelled "Kia", both of those, yes.
VivaStPauli
VivaStPauli
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : FC St. Pauli
Posts : 9003
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 39

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Kick Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:17 am

Kick
Kick
Admin
Admin

Club Supported : Chelsea
Posts : 34814
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 31

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:39 am

Mad Mad Mad
Hapless_Hans
Hapless_Hans
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 34047
Join date : 2013-09-17

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:14 am

Think his Özilian "body language" will make him a target in the English public in no time
Hapless_Hans
Hapless_Hans
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 34047
Join date : 2013-09-17

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Robespierre Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:44 am

He'd been pocketed without problem from Inter defence (despite a goal, a bit randomic) on that Europa League knock-out. Anyway I remember same thing for Hazard in Lille times and that is the best omen possible for a Chelsea fan
Robespierre
Robespierre
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : Inter Milan
Posts : 17182
Join date : 2013-11-22
Age : 34

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Katy Perry Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:35 pm

Shouldn't read much into the game, but it was a very disappointing debut from him ngl. I get it that it was still a debut and that he was out of position, but part of the appeal of his signing was that he's supposed to be able to play everywhere upfront.

James's performance in a very similar circumstance was absolutely brilliant for example. The Everton players did play through him a lot though, which wasn't the case with Kai. And Brighton is possibly a harder opponent that Spurs right now.
Katy Perry
Katy Perry
First Team
First Team

Club Supported : Chelsea
Posts : 1853
Join date : 2011-08-19
Age : 17

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Arquitecto Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm

Those are two very different players, Katy.

James is proven playmaker whereas Kai cannot have a team built around himself per say given he is more a multi-purpose player, despite his general impressive vision.

I feel Lampard may use that versatility of his to his advantage but possibly the detriment of Havertz? How? Some managers abuse a players versatility for their tactics and leave the player with little identity.


Either way looking as bad as he did is not a bad sign for never have I seen him perform this badly. Just clearly overawed by the occasion.
Arquitecto
Arquitecto
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : Liverpool
Posts : 12350
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by VivaStPauli Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:07 pm

I also never found Havertz to be all that great on the wings, did all of his best work in the center, for ages now...
VivaStPauli
VivaStPauli
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : FC St. Pauli
Posts : 9003
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 39

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:40 am

Apparently Lampard wants him to "Get used to the PL" in the wings and then move him to the center

How did this fraud finish 3rd? Laughing
BarrileteCosmico
BarrileteCosmico
Admin
Admin

Club Supported : Barcelona
Posts : 28293
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 33

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by iftikhar Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:11 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Apparently Lampard wants him to "Get used to the PL" in the wings and then move him to the center

How did this fraud finish 3rd? Laughing
Brendan, Ole, Mou :coffee:
iftikhar
iftikhar
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Liverpool
Posts : 9347
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 52

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by VivaStPauli Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:54 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Apparently Lampard wants him to "Get used to the PL" in the wings and then move him to the center

How did this fraud finish 3rd? Laughing


That sounds blatantly insane, what even is the logic behind that?
VivaStPauli
VivaStPauli
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : FC St. Pauli
Posts : 9003
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 39

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Helmer Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:01 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Apparently Lampard wants him to "Get used to the PL" in the wings and then move him to the center

How did this fraud finish 3rd? Laughing


That sounds blatantly insane, what even is the logic behind that?

I would just sit still, wait long enough and watch how Havertz will be a great player for Chelsea for years to come Laughing

Helmer
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : Liverpool
Posts : 9965
Join date : 2012-08-15

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Doc Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:44 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Apparently Lampard wants him to "Get used to the PL" in the wings and then move him to the center

How did this fraud finish 3rd? Laughing

4th tbh
Doc
Doc
World Class Contributor
World Class Contributor

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 15946
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 37

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 pm

Let’s keep updating this thread

2 games 2 flops without showing even a little bit of elite talent. Ok.
Mr Nick09
Mr Nick09
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 31600
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by VivaStPauli Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:31 pm

Was he on the wings again versus Liverpool, or did he get to play his position?

Future free transfer flop?
VivaStPauli
VivaStPauli
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : FC St. Pauli
Posts : 9003
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 39

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by El Gunner Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:45 pm

started out on the wing, then was moved on to a false 9 position very early on
El Gunner
El Gunner
An Oakland City Warrior

Club Supported : Arsenal
Posts : 22814
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 27

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by RealGunner Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:22 pm

?
RealGunner
RealGunner
Admin
Admin

Club Supported : Arsenal
Posts : 89513
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Firenze Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:44 am

change thread title to next Marko Marin, as predicted
Firenze
Firenze
the Bloody-Nine

Club Supported : Manchester United
Posts : 34256
Join date : 2012-04-25

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:47 am

Is he playing that bad? Shocking
Mr Nick09
Mr Nick09
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 31600
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:18 am

Mega Flop
Hapless_Hans
Hapless_Hans
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 34047
Join date : 2013-09-17

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by El Gunner Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:08 am

not only is he flopping hard out there, but it constantly looks like he is in need of a bloody meat steak and he can't take any sunlight
El Gunner
El Gunner
An Oakland City Warrior

Club Supported : Arsenal
Posts : 22814
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 27

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Kaladin Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:20 pm

Bundesliga
Kaladin
Kaladin
Stormblessed

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 24585
Join date : 2012-06-28
Age : 31

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:43 pm

This is the risk of signing young players who are specialist in their roles and have complete freedom in their previous clubs. They go to bigger clubs where 1) that freedom doesn’t exist 2) there is competition, 3) they don’t necessarily play the same role/position and they struggle. Very similar to Joao Felix
Mr Nick09
Mr Nick09
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Real Madrid
Posts : 31600
Join date : 2011-06-05

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Casciavit Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:50 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:This is the risk of signing young players who are specialist in their roles and have complete freedom in their previous clubs. They go to bigger clubs where 1) that freedom doesn’t exist 2) there is competition, 3) they don’t necessarily play the same role/position and they struggle. Very similar to Joao Felix


I don't get why top teams would sign these 9.5's knowing fully well they are really only at their best behind the CF, and you don't get half the impact from them by playing them as wingers or CM's.

It's mind boggling.
Casciavit
Casciavit
Fan Favorite
Fan Favorite

Club Supported : AC Milan
Posts : 9462
Join date : 2012-08-05

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:30 pm

Casciavit wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:This is the risk of signing young players who are specialist in their roles and have complete freedom in their previous clubs. They go to bigger clubs where 1) that freedom doesn’t exist 2) there is competition, 3) they don’t necessarily play the same role/position and they struggle. Very similar to Joao Felix


I don't get why top teams would sign these 9.5's knowing fully well they are really only at their best behind the CF, and you don't get half the impact from them by playing them as wingers or CM's.

It's mind boggling.


Bosz played Havertz as CM along with Brandt and it was Havertz breakout season.
The position argument is misleading. The right argument is role and expectations.
Havertz wasn't ready to be main man at a  big club and he isn't the player to give the impression he's running things, which was always going to hurt him in an England that never understood what was Özil about even after season on season of top chance creation.
He should have joined Bayern next summer as Müller understudy. That would have been best.
Hapless_Hans
Hapless_Hans
Forum Legend
Forum Legend

Club Supported : Lyon
Posts : 34047
Join date : 2013-09-17

Back to top Go down

Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin? - Page 4 Empty Re: Kia Havertz Watch - Next Marko Marin?

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 4 of 5 Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum