Bayern's midfield for one is not working well & we probably need to bring in top midfielders soon without paying astronomical 80-100M transfer fees. And the sad part is there seems to be very few top CM's available in today's market for a somewhat reasonable (say Under 40-50M available today).

Who do you think are POTENTIALLY top CM's available in the next 1-2-3 years?

Bundesliga -

Geis (DM) - Schalke - Fantastic player - Complete midfielder
Goretzka (CM) - Schalke - Good technical creative player (can play CAM as well)
Kampl - CM - Leverkusen - Maybe???
Dahoud - CM - Gladbach - Good creative CM
Bentaleb - DM/CM - Schalke - He is doing well

Eredivisie -
Hakim Ziyech (CAM) - Ajax - De Bruyne type productivity with regards to goals & assists - potentially WC

Seria A -
Strootman - CM - Roma - Top Box to Box player when uninjured - Leader & a captain
Radja Nainngolan - CM - Roma - Box to Box player
Lemina - CM - Juventus - Box to Box player

I don't know any other CM's in EPL & La Liga & Ligue 1 (Veratti is in PSG so get over it) who could be available for transfer within in 2017/2018/2019!

I would rescue Sergi Roberto from Barca from ending up a defender.He is a young player who is being forced to plyaing as a defender, like a common criminal. He is far too good to lower himself to play as a defender, Could be a cm for every team in the world,

elfmeter

Below average CM, below average RB when he's not being GOATberto some days.

Roberto is not a below average RB, come on. He is very good.

Thread opener, check this out: http://www.goallegacy.net/t40050-iniesta-replacement

Depends on the age target.

Strootman, Nainggolan, Hamsik, Jorginho are experienced and good.

Paredes, Diawara, Kessie, Gagliardini, Pellegrini, Benassi for young promising CM, all who are starters or regulars at their clubs.

rincon wrote:Depends on the age target.

Strootman, Nainggolan, Hamsik, Jorginho are experienced and good.

Paredes, Diawara, Kessie, Gagliardini, Pellegrini, Benassi for young promising CM, all who are starters or regulars at their clubs.

Hamsik is 29, too old IMO. It is better to look for players under 25-26-27 at most. The last lot are full of rookies & can't transfer to a Madrid Bayern or Barca in 1 or 2 years & start & boss there!

Steven N'Zonzi. £30m release clause. Second best player at Sevilla this season after Nasri.

footyfan01 wrote:

rincon wrote:Depends on the age target.

Strootman, Nainggolan, Hamsik, Jorginho are experienced and good.

Paredes, Diawara, Kessie, Gagliardini, Pellegrini, Benassi for young promising CM, all who are starters or regulars at their clubs.

Hamsik is 29, too old IMO. It is better to look for players under 25-26-27 at most. The last lot are full of rookies & can't transfer to a Madrid Bayern or Barca in 1 or 2 years & start & boss there!

Yeah the last bunch are rookies but very interesting ones. I would be beyond surprised if Kessie doesn't transfer to a "big" team in the summer (hopefully Juve). That is unless his form drops by a lot. As it stands, he would start at Juve and probably be able to feature regularly in any team.

If you haven't seen him (I imagine only the Serie A crowd has seen him here) he is a lot like Vidal. Very strong physical, a lot of pace, yet also good dribbling and technique. Plays as a box-to-box and contributes a lot defensively and also with his runs to the box.

Pellegrini and Benassi aren't ready to be starting in big teams as you say.

Diawara is great for any team that needs a CM to play in front of the defense. Provides great cover and passing, its hard to find a player that combines this so well except for very experienced ones and he is only like 19. He is already gaining ground on Jorginho and starts a lot of games for Napoli. Last season he was a starter for Bologna. By the summer he will be a starter and either him or Jorginho will probably leave Napoli.

There is already a thread with people fapping about Paredes here so I imagine most know about him. Gagliardini is very very interesting, but should probably stay at Atalanta at least 1 more season. He has the best passing of the bunch and is very quick to think and play. More Barca style player.

If I were to rank these prospects on who would be ready to shine in a big team (mostly from Juve perspective) sooner it'd be something like

Kessie (would take right away)
Paredes, Diawara (would take in the summer)
Gagliardini (1+ season)
Pellegrini, Benassi (2+ seasons)

There's nothing in the PL lol.

Lucas Lima.

Gündogan was available for laughable 25m but we decided to buy every other player from BVB instead.

The Bayern fan's supposed search for said young, "affordable", potentially good to world class midfielders should just leap frog England. Even if there were such talent available (pretty sure there is in the Championship, who knows), they'll not be cheap by any stretch.

In Spain, well, ignoring my obvious bias but Llorente could be well worth the investment if Bayern feels like bargaining with those asshats at Madrid. Manu Triguero of Villareal is pretty neat but I doubt he is at that level needed to succeed at Bayern. Too bad Kroos and the Bayern hierarchy didn't see "eye to eye", pretty good player to have in one's ranks.

rincon wrote:

footyfan01 wrote:

rincon wrote:Depends on the age target.

Strootman, Nainggolan, Hamsik, Jorginho are experienced and good.

Paredes, Diawara, Kessie, Gagliardini, Pellegrini, Benassi for young promising CM, all who are starters or regulars at their clubs.

Hamsik is 29, too old IMO. It is better to look for players under 25-26-27 at most. The last lot are full of rookies & can't transfer to a Madrid Bayern or Barca in 1 or 2 years & start & boss there!

Yeah the last bunch are rookies but very interesting ones. I would be beyond surprised if Kessie doesn't transfer to a "big" team in the summer (hopefully Juve). That is unless his form drops by a lot. As it stands, he would start at Juve and probably be able to feature regularly in any team.

If you haven't seen him (I imagine only the Serie A crowd has seen him here) he is a lot like Vidal. Very strong physical, a lot of pace, yet also good dribbling and technique. Plays as a box-to-box and contributes a lot defensively and also with his runs to the box.

Pellegrini and Benassi aren't ready to be starting in big teams as you say.

Diawara is great for any team that needs a CM to play in front of the defense. Provides great cover and passing, its hard to find a player that combines this so well except for very experienced ones and he is only like 19. He is already gaining ground on Jorginho and starts a lot of games for Napoli. Last season he was a starter for Bologna. By the summer he will be a starter and either him or Jorginho will probably leave Napoli.

There is already a thread with people fapping about Paredes here so I imagine most know about him. Gagliardini is very very interesting, but should probably stay at Atalanta at least 1 more season. He has the best passing of the bunch and is very quick to think and play. More Barca style player.

If I were to rank these prospects on who would be ready to shine in a big team (mostly from Juve perspective) sooner it'd be something like

Kessie (would take right away)
Paredes, Diawara (would take in the summer)
Gagliardini (1+ season)
Pellegrini, Benassi (2+ seasons)

I saw a little of Paredes from the time he was in Argentina, I was following Roma for a while to see what they do. IMO he is talented but overhyped. I am yet to see anything special from him.

Ninja & Stroot in Roma are potentially WC no doubt!

Surely Calhanoglu is the next Bundesliga CM that Bayern will buy? Can't believe he hasn't been mentioned yet.

Clasie is a pretty good CM

RealGunner wrote:Clasie is a pretty good CM

I'm missing out on the joke, fill in?

No joke, he has been pretty good this season for Southampton.

Haven't seen much Soton this season, but he was trash last season. I might as well draw out the Mulumbu card if you start blowing Clasie's trumpet.

Yea can't disagree. Maybe it was the adjustment thing or maybe Puel just uses him better. But he is a lot better than last year.

Seen Sergi roberto being mentioned and he is as average as they come. Clasie isn't a whole lot worse than him.

Maybe I am the only one who sees Roberto as a midfielder talent, who is wasting away playing as a defender. I like him, I think he had good composure at a young age and he obviously is adaptable. I think he would be keen to go to a club that would play him as a creative mid and I think he would play much better than he is now, as a wing back, which he probably hates.

Hapless_Hans wrote:Gündogan was available for laughable 25m but we decided to buy every other player from BVB instead.

You not happy with Hummels?

Would gladly swap both Hummels and Lewandowski for Gündogan

Hapless_Hans wrote:Would gladly swap both Hummels and Lewandowski for Gündogan

Then you'd have an extra midfielder and no striker
Vidal vs Mandzukic + cash ???????

RealGunner wrote:Clasie is a pretty good CM

Clasie I know since the U-19, can't play 90 minutes, defensively not a beast, isn't a CM but not a DM either, weird player - He has got good balance, high handling speed, very good vision etc but I am not sure for a club like Bayern.

What about EPL? Are there are no big talents outside the Top 6? No upcoming top CM?

Why on earth is Bayern looking to buy more CMs ffs
1) after splashing profusely last season on supposedly the best young CM in the world.
2) already having  Thiago and Vidal.
3) Heck, letting go of one of the best CM talents out there in Hojberg cos they couldnt even give him enough game time.

Midfield should be among the least of their worries imo.

On the other hand iff a Barca fan was creating this thread it would have made far more sense.