You cant leave Ibra in the final third alone, he has to be marked, and one player will not do it.

This is where the technical player comes into play, the Willian, the Hazards, the perhaps Mkhiki! But this united team lacks the technical players.

Rashford is the gareth bale of United but he will not be enough for now.

You find the above combi and United will join the top four.

RED wrote:ffs we've created ourselves another Rooney problem cuz I doubt Mou will bench Ibra.

This football club post Fergie

He's your best player! Have patience.
And ask your stubborn manager to deploy a technical player that can draw more players for Ibra to score the goals.

Pogba is slow as a snail.

I agree. Mourinho has no right to feel frustrated or angry right now. He himself has created this mess. The sooner Mkhi and Martial comes to the 11, the better for everyone else the team and mou.

yeah Martial too should play.

Vibe wrote:I personally thought he did well TBH.

That's already 2 times a GK he faces had a game of his life. Did well and will do better.

---------------------De Gea-------------------------
Valencia------Smalling------Blind----------Shaw
-------------Pogba/Carrick---------Herrera--------------
Mkhitariyan/Mata--------Mata/Pogba-----------Rashford
---------------------Martial--------------------

I honestly don't know how anyone can say ibra didn't have a good game. All these kneejerk threads. Btw, I wonder how pogba could ever leave juve for anything above 30 million tbh.. Such a snail

How can people really say he's a fraud when he's 35 pushing on 36? How many players can play at the top level at that age

RealGunner wrote:---------------------De Gea-------------------------
Valencia------Smalling------Blind----------Shaw
-------------Pogba/Carrick---------Herrera--------------
Mkhitariyan/Mata--------Mata/Pogba-----------Rashford
---------------------Martial--------------------

This. Just put Bailly when fit in place of Smalling. Thats a decent team to have when on form and can match any of the big teams in the league.And thats why even amid this slump I am confident we will make top 4(realistic aim for me at least personally).

Plus Mourinho is too clever a coach to keep on playing underperforming players risking his job in the process. He is already pressure after his last season exploits with Chelsea (not dropping some players (Ivanovic) at all and in the process costing his job, so it is unlikely he will repeat the mistake).

Zlatan might get one more chance, or two more max. If he continues to be as bad as this he will be phased out, it is as simple as that. The only worry I have regarding this issue is the fact that even if Zlatan (and Lingard) get dropped , it may not be necessarily Mkhi and Martial replacing them. Rooney and Memphis might get reinstated instead.

Zlatan always has a phase of the season where he hits a rough patch of form. Even in Serie A this happened.

He will come good again.

Is Ibra suited to Mou's 4-2-3-1 ? In order for him to perform at his usual level he has to drop deep and at the moment him and Mata /Pogba when played as a 10 occupy the same area. He also needs pace around him. Put him in a 433 (which conviniently suits both him and Pogba) surrounded by 2 pacey wingers and he'll perform. He still has 2 seasons in him imo

Not a whole lot of games where a team shoots 35 times and can't score... as long as chances are created, he'll come good. This was a good attacking game for Man U imo.

huntsman wrote:

RED wrote:ffs we've created ourselves another Rooney problem cuz I doubt Mou will bench Ibra.

This football club post Fergie

He's your best player! Have patience.
And ask your stubborn manager to deploy a technical player that can draw more players for Ibra to score the goals.

Pogba is slow as a snail.

No he isn't.

You play with 9 men behind the ball and expect a 35 year old to bail you out of games.

Also, for the love of god change your sig it makes me cringe.

Man United fans for you.

Buy a 35 year old player and then call him a fraud because he doesn't pull their sorry asses out of the mess they're in

to be fair , they did not "buy him" Ibra chose them for one last big pay cheque

So is Ibra Utd's new scapegoat then. At this rate they'll go through the whole team before the end of the season. From the highlights RG posted in the PL thread it just looked like Ibra was unlucky. There weren't any glaring 1v1 chances that he missed. In fact he actually got his shots on target with that many defenders in the box unlike the others who had their shots blocked all the time. Not to mention he had some good moments outside the box too.

Ibra has never liked himself to be used as a target man. That's one of the reasons Lagerbäck was sacked from Sweden, he kept using Ibra as a target man and he wanted the ball played to his feet. Ibra plays best with a number 9 ahead of him. He isn't your typical 'stay only in the box' type of player, he likes to get involved in the build up. You have to pair him with a Rashford or a Martial to get the best out of him. A 442 would not only suit him but a bunch of other players too like Pogba who can play on the left and do his thing, Martial/Rashford who don't have to be used as glorified wingers and the defenders who'll get more support

He missed two 1v1s Hala... and took 12 shots. He's playing hard though. Ibra goes through periods like this. Both Pogba and Ibra are used to great players around them and having the likes of Herrera, Lingard, Rashford, Rojo, Valencia, etc. namely, crap, has been tough for both. They expect movement and passing that those guys are incapable of. Both are learning how to play with average teammates.

Pogba was great yesterday. Ibra is coming around. Mou isn't doing either any favors with his lineups.

Mr Nick09 wrote:to be fair , they did not "buy him" Ibra chose them for one last big pay cheque

True. Makes my point even clearer. Why scapegoat a 35 year old you signed on a free.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:to be fair , they did not "buy him" Ibra chose them for one last big pay cheque

True. Makes my point even clearer. Why scapegoat a 35 year old you signed on a free.

Well I know the answer to this one of course.
Rooney is on the bench so their usual go-to scapegoat isn't available.
And god forbid they just accept their team isn't that successful at the moment.
Better throw a tantrum after every second game, for the 4th year in a row now.

Did you just reply to your own post

@sport, I wouldn't say Hererra and Mata are bad but yh the rest of them aren't exactly brimming with quality

Ibra will come good. I'm sure of it unless he gets injured. It's only 2 months in.

In fact, I'll wager he'll have 30+ goals all comps when it's all said and done.

He's not a fraud he's just old.

Like calling Shevchenko a fraud based on his team in Chelsea tbh, but realistically nobody with sense was that silly.

RED wrote:This miss was inexcusable

Zlatan Ibrahimovic ladies and gentlemen https://t.co/4mV8oexwxG

— Mr. Arsenal (@OAFC10) October 29, 2016

What was that?? It must be frustrating to miss a goal that close!

Will Mourinho have the courage to put him on the bench?