Re: Official: Pogba returns to Manchester United

by rincon Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:13 pm

Fully flopped today. Watford was better at everything.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:15 pm

RealGunner wrote:Scholes want United to go spend 200m on Modric. that might help Pogba

As long as Mourinho in charge it won't change a damn thing lol.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:26 pm

RealGunner wrote:Scholes want United to go spend 200m on Modric. that might help Pogba

where do you get scholes commentary?

by RealGunner Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:27 pm

He is a pundit on BT sports

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/16/manchester-united-need-to-sign-a-toni-kroos-or-luka-modric-to-br/

by futbol_bill Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:30 pm

LOL! Mourinho flopped again as well as the 120M man. Love it. can't wait for the excuses to once again come in. When does it sink in, that being the highest transfer ever, you are expected to not only star in every game, you are expected to lead the team!

by Firenze Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:34 pm

Scholes calls it like it is too. He doesn't show any club bias. Does come out with a lot of crap but regarding the club he's generally spot on.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:40 pm

They don't need to buy anyone though.

Just drop Rooney and play an actual midfield like Schneiderlin Herrera and Pogba.

It's really not that hard.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:41 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:They don't need to buy anyone though.

Just drop Rooney and play an actual midfield like Schneiderlin Herrera and Pogba.

It's really not that hard.

Mourinho needs a few losses so he can then play savior and clearly show the before and after Rooney to the fans.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:42 pm

"I know he's (Mourinho) happy with the four players he’s bought but they still need that type of player. A Luka Modric or a Toni Kroos. I think these players are available. I think Paul Pogba would be a much better player playing with these types of players."

Scholes isnt wrong, Pogba is not a midfield general, he is a fantastic lieutenant that will run around and offer different things in support to the offense.

Pogba - Fellaini is probably one, if not, the worst pairing for a big club in europe.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:44 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:They don't need to buy anyone though.

Just drop Rooney and play an actual midfield like Schneiderlin Herrera and Pogba.

It's really not that hard.

Pretty much, a bit surprising that Mourinho has pumped Rooney's head so much with the idea that he is indispensable for the club though. And since he does nothing with class, his benching will be abrupt and brutal, although i dont expect rooney to complaint or pout since he is not the type

by Glory Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:44 pm

Not worried. Its the pressure of the price tag thats causing this right now. Nothing else. He'will come good once we put an able midfield to complement his game. I say by around December beginning we will start to see the real Pog. Wont complain if he's dropped too right now. A time in the sidelines, away from all the media circus will help him get his focus back. Let the in form guys such as Herrera play until then.

by The Demon of Carthage Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:46 pm

Did he just say that Modric and Kroos are available? ok.

by Sushi Master Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:51 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:Did he just say that Modric and Kroos are available? ok.

Seriously. Scholes has had some decent comments lately, but that just took it too far. Buying Pogba for 100+m does not mean that pretty much any player is available. Much less one from Madrid or another big CL club.

by sportsczy Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:04 pm

5th game for him... and the issue is that when he pushes up, Rooney drops low and he can't handle that area. So there are no balls coming in or being recovered. Pogba is ok as a defensive B2B and the team plays better when he plays back and Rooney pushed up... but you didn't pay 100 mil for that. If you insist on playing Rooney, then I don't know what you do.

Before Pogba can make a real impact, he needs to play in his proper position. For that to happen, you need to make a decision with Rooney. And to top it all off, Pogba needs to find rhythm and understand how his new teammates play. Doesn't happen overnight.

Fellaini is awful too so there's nobody other than Pogba that can play CM at a good level on Man U period.

Mourinho needs to start playing Schneiderlin and Herrera a lot more. Piggy would be nice as well.

by Tomwin Lannister Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:13 pm

Pogba's not just getting slated for not grabbing games by the balls though, he's not doing some of the simple stuff correctly. Guy holds on to the ball like it's his kid and he's scared to give it away.

It was cute at Juve when we were 2-0 up and as soon as he lost it Marchisio or Chiellini would step up and win it straight back but these here are different times we be livin' in

by Adit Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:17 pm

Myesyats wrote:Can only congratulate Juve for a great piece of business

by Adit Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:20 pm

Scape goat Rooney didn't play last game where Pogba was dispossessed 7 times... There is a thing called passing for moving the ball. Trying to dribble a player 4 times Laughing

by S Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:35 pm

Thank god I am not obligated to defend this marketing hype fraud anymore.

And yes he got outperformed by Morata in big games. Oh it's true, it's DAMN true !

Adit :bow:

by RealGunner Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:59 pm

Really need a Juve-United match in the next 2 years.

by Valkyrja Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:01 pm

RealGunner wrote:Really need a Juve-United match in the next 2 years.

Taking into consideration the current state of Serie Z it will take more than 2 years to see Juve in Europa League

by FilthyLuca Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:34 pm

S wrote:Thank god I am not obligated to defend this marketing hype fraud anymore.

And yes he got outperformed by Morata in big games. Oh it's true, it's DAMN true !

Adit

Morata didn't outperform anyone, he was a *bleep* poacher and missed sitter after sitter. THAT is marketing hype. his athleticism made his potential look better than it is.
I prefer Matri to Morata any day. both are wasteful as hell, only know how to kick the ball straight at the keeper, but at least matri could link up.

Pogba is an attacking mid that looks just like a holding mid, and until they stop playing him as such, he will look like crap.

There was an Atalanta Juve game last year (or some blue jersey team). Pogba looked like shit fo 60 min until they moved him up and then he ran circles around everyone.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:48 pm

Paul Pogba's insane pass vs Watford pic.twitter.com/c0NCEmc2fy
— Troll Football Media (@Troll__Footbal) September 18, 2016

by chemicalboy99 Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:57 pm

The Scottish Wizard totally VINDICATED once more. Sir Alex knew that Pogba was absolutely worthless.

Surely a part exchange for Rafael is on the cards in January.

by chad4401 Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:54 pm

Pogba needs so much just to not be shit is hilarious, he lacks a lot of basics that what really making him look bad, people wonder why I say dribbling is overrated these days, it makes an average youngster into the so called most talented young mid in footy, still ain't better than thiago.

by Curtinho Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:43 pm

Pogba has always been overrated.

by Valkyrja Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:21 pm

chad4401 wrote:Pogba needs so much just to not be shit is hilarious, he lacks a lot of basics that what really making him look bad, people wonder why I say dribbling is overrated these days, it makes an average youngster into the so called most talented young mid in footy, still ain't better than thiago.

Of course he isn't better than Thiago and I think everybody but sports will agree to that. Thiago is simply a much more talented footballer. His skill is outrageous

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