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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:47 pm

We didnt need that many changes to start with tbh but we seem to be cutting corners by refusing to spend on necessary players and choosing to rely on our starters. I feel we have the attack covered if James says but I am still not happy that we are not adding another DM many of who were moving around this window so it's not like there were lack of options.

There just doesnt seem to be concrete reports about targets and all the rumoured players go to othet teams for really cheap which makes me tink that we were never in for them to start with. The DM position in the market is drying up quickly and all we are doing is loaning out players and dragging our feet on replacements

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Post by futbol_bill Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:48 pm

I don't believe Nacho is going anywhere. Like Hala said the possible replacements we had have been loaned out and the couple of options that were being considered have long since disappeared. It was stated that Zidane wanted him, Kova and Jese loaned out to give them starter minutes, but that was months ago and the club definitely needs 4CBs.

This lack of activity, to me, suggests that our worst fears are happening. that after the success of CL last season, they decided team was good enough! Yes, they pursued Zidane's dreams, but each one turned out to be unattainable.

What activity have they done? they brought back Morata (that's a yeah from me, but I think I'm the only one!) to fill the void of only one CF on team.

And they are taking care of their youth assets, by loaning or sale with buy back options to further develop them. The one noticeable aspect of this is they are no longer trying to stack Castilla. they are taking the best players from there and getting them first team action. @DoC, you missed Mariano and Odegaard in your summarization. Both are going with 1st team to America, but they are working on deals for both of them. All that is left in this regard is Asensio, Jese and maybe Kova. They will wait until after the America trip before deciding on them.

However with this total lack of activity, it may well be they are giving up on those loans as well.

In other words, it sure looks like same team as last year with backup CF addition, no backup DM and no backup LB, although they could say they have Coentrao after November!

Oh, for that swinger that Nick was asking for ....... Meet the new acquistion ! ......... James Rodriquez!

I don't ever remember an off season as mild as this one and especially confusing is it is after a very irractic season when lots of problems were apparent and with the possible looming transfer ban.

The only rationale I can think of is they tried unsuccessfully for Zidane's dreams that Zidane thought would improve starters and now feel their starters are adequate and that they can always get backups late in off season, if they do make sale (James) or decide it is best to loan out Jese, Asensio and Kova. Probably feeling there always are backups available that can play as well as the incumbents!
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Post by phenom Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:47 pm

Seeing how much rmcf page is promoting James Rodriguez on Facebook,doesnt look like he is getting sold this year
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:05 am

Real Madrid have joined the race for AC Milan defender Mattia De Sciglio, according to El Diario.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:58 am

sounds like Nacho might go to Roma on loan
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Post by titosantill Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:36 am

if nacho goes to roma, then we only have one cb left in varane, who's injured....interesting. and i'm hardly hearing about us making any moves in the market. i don't count moves of guys from castilla or the youth set up, their moves hardly affect what we are trying to achieve this season. i guess the summer's still long
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Post by guest7 Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:25 am

L'equipe says we want Sissoko
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:36 am

Looks like the Nacho deal is loan with option to buy. Well if it goes through I am almost certain they will exercise that right. Wish him the best of luck
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:43 am

Joao Mario is a good shoutout. Very impressed with him with Portugal. I think he was really underrated and easily one of the players of the tournament. One man midfield, seriously
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:45 am

The Demon of Carthage wrote:Real Madrid have joined the race for AC Milan defender Mattia De Sciglio, according to El Diario.


I like this. Milan are going nowhere and I think that has gotten to his head, hence his stagnation. Still a top talent and he could easily challenge Marcelo for a spot if he gets motivated again
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Post by futbol_bill Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:37 pm

Marca says we are interested in Giminez (from Atleti).
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:45 pm

I think we have been interested for a while.
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Post by Turok_TTZ Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:32 pm

Too bad it seems Zidane seems rather green with the market.
oh well. he will get better with time.
The lack of activity disturbs me. we need back ups now damn it.
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Post by FalcaoPunch Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:14 am

Well I guess that's why this is a rumors thread lol
Hazard, Pogba, and Kante.

Doesn't seem like any of them are coming here so what are some alternatives we could be looking at "realistically"
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:37 am

I think they are done except for
- A 4th CB as it does seem like Nacho is going,
- possibly a LB as Coentrao is out until November, - possibly of Gomes coming which would mean Kova goes out on the loan suggested
- And the (assuming James does stay) possible loan deals for Jese and / or Asensio

Looks like they looked into all the dreams and when they didn't work out, they are simply plugging the holes in terms of backups / reserves from last year, plus they are not fearful of signing ban possibilities and counting in recalling developing talent on loans if necessary as well they are loaning out developing talent that will not get minutes to complete development.
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Post by Zees Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:13 pm

So Kanté officially gone, can someone remind me why we're trying to sign an offensive CM like André Gomes instead of a DM to cover Casemiro?
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:07 pm

I think it is to replace Kovacic if he is sold which is the dumbest idea ever. Zizou ahould do everything to retain Nacho. Players like him are invaluable for a team like us. Also Kovacic deserves another season
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Post by titosantill Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:16 pm

this has been a surprisingly slow window....not just for madrid but other european sides as well. maybe i'm just being impatient. there have been movements here and there but nothing that has raised eyebrows
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:27 pm

Yh most big teams this season have bought cheap young players to fill gaps rather than high profile buys that will dominate the headlines

I know we havent done much but we have covered 2 of the 3 positions that needed covering urgently. I have a feeling we wont buy a DM and will only make Kroos the back up. It is very risky especially if Casemiro gets injured at the end of the season when we will play in the CL latest stage and both Atleti and Barca. We can get away with Kroos against all the other teams but in CL and against our rivals we will need Casemiro
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:04 am

So now that Kante is off the market, and it doesn't seem like we will sign Pogba, I am a bit confused as to the vision of signing reinforcements before the transfer ban.

Anyone have any insight?

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Post by guest7 Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:24 am

The way I see it if we were interested from start of Pogba, we're still interested. The price is just dumb atm and both sides are going to play games with each other til one side gives in.

Also if Pogba wanted United, he would already be there. Nothing but games. Same with Juve, if he wanted to stay they would already have extended his contract by now.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:15 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:So now that Kante is off the market, and it doesn't seem like we will sign Pogba, I am a bit confused as to the vision of signing reinforcements before the transfer ban.

Anyone have any insight?


Deez i dont have any insight, but as far as signing help in midfield, not signing Kante is not a problem

If we end the transfer window with Andre Gomes and Lass for example, i would say that's pretty good
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:05 pm

Deez, it is being stated that Flo believes his appeals will be successful and therefore feels there will be no signing ban. In the event that he is unsuccessful, they feel there is enough talent out there on loan deals that can be recalled if reinforcements are necessary.

They obviously feel they have enough talent, not only for this season but for next as well. THe Pogba deal would have been over 250M when one considers the wages including taxes over 5 years, plus it would upset the club wages hierachy. THat is the reason they have stepped aside.

@Hala, if they get Gomes, it is not to sell Kovacic, it is to loan him. Zidane stated a while ago it was better for unfinished developed players to go elsewhere to play more rather than stay here with little minutes. Jese and Kova are the two mentioned and possibly Nacho as well.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:28 pm

So Nacho is going to Roma, good for him i hope he gets to play a lot for them he is already 26.

We are now short a CB. Llorente and Vallejo have gone on loan.

Who are we signing?
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:46 pm

My question exactly. Llorente was ready to come back, why did he leave if Nacho was leaving too. Benatia is gone, Stones is overpriced, Koulibaly is probably headed to Chelsea. Whatever move we make we have to take into account Varane's feelings, as he is usually quick to moan about playing time
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:26 pm

cant wait till we go into the season with 3 CBs and crocked back up LB, just lovely. Affer all we have BBC and. IF they are fit they are unstoppable
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