Valkyrja wrote:

chad4401 wrote:are we really gonna pretend that cr still took around 12 shots a game back then too, then or now if he doesn't take a bunch of shots he does nothing.

we wouldn't have reached the SF of CL last year without him.

lmao he couldn't pass the r16 without benzema

farfan wrote:

futbol wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:He did not decline physically or anything, he is still fast as hell, but atm he is so out of form. I mean like he was before the Barca game in the copa in 11-12. He will goat it again but it might take some time.

He did not decline physically? He declined physically for at least 2 seasons now. Just check this short video highlight of him from 09/10 then you'll realize how much he has fallen. He actually used to score some great individuals goals, dribbled and was dangerous from freekicks. These days he's camping in the box and statpadding from 3 yard tap-ins, penalties and goalkeeper errors and "these days" isn't just a couple of games. It's going on for a lot longer.

but those are signs of deteriorating skills , not a decline in athletic abilities .
the guy is still as athletic and explosive as it gets.

He can't get past players anymore when he picks up the ball outside the box in wide areas. Losing a split second of acceleration is already enough at this level, it doesn't mean he is a turtle now of course. But it's enough to make a huge difference. Iniesta also lost some of his acceleration.

chad4401 wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:

chad4401 wrote:are we really gonna pretend that cr still took around 12 shots a game back then too, then or now if he doesn't take a bunch of shots he does nothing.

we wouldn't have reached the SF of CL last year without him.

lmao he couldn't pass the r16 without benzema

When Ronaldo had 3 goals and an assist ?

Honest question. Why do coaches always sub benzema or worse still sub him out first? I tought most strikers get their goals around the 60th - 90th minute mark, just when the opponents are tiring? Happened the whole of last season too where benz was subbed every single time whereas scrubs like bale played every game from start to finish.

I will say this though. What the hell happened to these?



Free kick does not decline with age. I think futbol is right, he stopped training free kicks because penalty kicks take too much of his time.

M99 wrote:I will say this though. What the hell happened to these?



Free kick does not decline with age. I think futbol is right, he stopped training free kicks because penalty kicks take too much of his time.

he was never a great FK taker

lyon away he didn't do shit

chad4401 wrote:lyon away he didn't do shit

Yeah, that is the game when Benzema decided to play football for Real Madrid, 1.5 years after he joined.

Valkyrja wrote:

M99 wrote:I will say this though. What the hell happened to these?



Free kick does not decline with age. I think futbol is right, he stopped training free kicks because penalty kicks take too much of his time.

he was never a great FK taker

Right now he's a completely useless free kick taker.

That would be ok if the coach were allowed to designate other free kick takers, which apparently he isn't.
Bale, James, Kroos, Isco, Modric probably. Every one of them would take better, and most importantly more successful, free kicks. So many wasted opportunities for the team.

Valkyrja wrote:

chad4401 wrote:lyon away he didn't do shit

Yeah, that is the game when Benzema decided to play football for Real Madrid, after 1 year and a half.

aww can't admit cr is a flop without benz holding his hands, oh we got knocked out in the r16 with cr-higs in the 09-10 seaon, that must have really really really hurt you i know .

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:

M99 wrote:I will say this though. What the hell happened to these?



Free kick does not decline with age. I think futbol is right, he stopped training free kicks because penalty kicks take too much of his time.

he was never a great FK taker

Right now he's a completely useless free kick taker.

That would be ok if the coach were allowed to designate other free kick takers, which apparently he isn't.
Bale, James, Kroos, Isco, Modric probably. Every one of them would take better, and most importantly more successful, free kicks. So many wasted opportunities for the team.

James is probably the best shooter in the game at the moment.

chad4401 wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:

chad4401 wrote:lyon away he didn't do shit

Yeah, that is the game when Benzema decided to play football for Real Madrid, after 1 year and a half.

aww can't admit cr is a flop without benz holding his hands, oh we got knocked out in the r16 with cr-higs in the 09-10 seaon, that must have really really really hurt you i know .

Cristiano scored in 09-10. It was Higuaín who missed, while Benz was on the bench

Btw, how the hell is CR a flop ?

Our fans are ridiculous inside this forum arguing for Benzema and Ronaldo

Valkyrja wrote:
James is probably the best shooter in the game at the moment.

So there you go.
I just can't wrap my head around it. It's plain for everyone to see. This is a huge club. Why the hell doesn't the coach stop Ronaldo from taking every free kick? Absolutely incomprehensible.

Even for Ronaldo, if we assume he's doing it out of vanity, he's not helping his image. Every free kick he takes should hurt his vanity. Does he really not notice he's terrible at it and he's showing this continually in front of millions of people?

Valkyrja wrote:

chad4401 wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:


Yeah, that is the game when Benzema decided to play football for Real Madrid, after 1 year and a half.

aww can't admit cr is a flop without benz holding his hands, oh we got knocked out in the r16 with cr-higs in the 09-10 seaon, that must have really really really hurt you i know .

Cristiano scored in 09-10. It was Higuaín who missed, while Benz was on the bench

Btw, how the hell is CR a flop ?

cause he couldn't get us pass lyon @ the r16 , and ultimate goal scorer higs got a free pass from you lot anyway, but super weak mentality benzema came through the moment he was given a chance like always, the following year and was the real reason why madrid got past the r16, but posters like you over look that to give cr the praise and act like nobody else does anything.

It's probably in his contract isn't it.

He's probably got a clause in his contract he's the no 1 free kick taker and it's not to be challenged

Only explanation I can think of

why even talk about 4-5 seasons ago..
it's obvious benzema is carrying the attack and ronaldo is holding them back whats more to discuss.

Come of it with the exagerations, cr7 isnt a flop and never was except for the 1st 3 years of his career. We all know he'll be scoring soon again btw, had he scored today most madrid fans would be buttlicking by now. Gl has an attitude of glorifying whoever scores a goal and whoever doesn't score is shit. I doubt people would have made this thread if cr7 had scored today. Watch these same fans change their tone come the end of the season. The football world is very fickle. That being said, goals or not cr7 has declined tbh..

I agree. I've been saying Benzema is better for years tbh.
I wouldn't mind selling the guy on the opposite flank while we're at it also.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:
James is probably the best shooter in the game at the moment.

So there you go.
I just can't wrap my head around it. It's plain for everyone to see. This is a huge club. Why the hell doesn't the coach stop Ronaldo from taking every free kick? Absolutely incomprehensible.

Even for Ronaldo, if we assume he's doing it out of vanity, he's not helping his image. Every free kick he takes should hurt his vanity. Does he really not notice he's terrible at it and he's showing this continually in front of millions of people?

He is a very proud guy. He will never stop taking them, just not to give the other people the impression that he's giving up.

@banks when have i said any different about cr? scoring or not he plays like crap and he always get a free pass, for the most stupidest reasons ever, if he is not scoring he is easily one of the worst players on the pitch.

Valkyrja wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:
James is probably the best shooter in the game at the moment.

So there you go.
I just can't wrap my head around it. It's plain for everyone to see. This is a huge club. Why the hell doesn't the coach stop Ronaldo from taking every free kick? Absolutely incomprehensible.

Even for Ronaldo, if we assume he's doing it out of vanity, he's not helping his image. Every free kick he takes should hurt his vanity. Does he really not notice he's terrible at it and he's showing this continually in front of millions of people?

He is a very proud guy. He will never stop taking them, just not to give the other people the impression that he's giving up.

It's not his call though. Or shouldn't be. This is the basics of a football team, that a coach decides stuff like that.

Btw, it seems that this is coming at a time where it feels like the madrid players actually have the nerve to go against ronaldo or his reactions....for once!!!

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Valkyrja wrote:
James is probably the best shooter in the game at the moment.

So there you go.
I just can't wrap my head around it. It's plain for everyone to see. This is a huge club. Why the hell doesn't the coach stop Ronaldo from taking every free kick? Absolutely incomprehensible.

Even for Ronaldo, if we assume he's doing it out of vanity, he's not helping his image. Every free kick he takes should hurt his vanity. Does he really not notice he's terrible at it and he's showing this continually in front of millions of people?

same reason Messi is still Barca's PK shooter even though he missed half his recent ones

The only thing ronaldo thinks about is goals, awards and.........Messi.

think its a bit different considering from the 4 penalties neymar has taken at barca he also missed half.
when the time comes (probably soon in madrid) and the players get fed up one will stick up to ronaldo and eventually get him sold/benched
same with messi.

happens to all the top players when they stay too long in a club.