If Gündogan gets back to form, and the signs are already there, it's a no brainer, really.

Gundogan hasn't done shit since his injury to show he is barca material.
next summer we need one midfield to replace iniesta and that's all..
well have Rakitic, Rafinha, Turan, Iniesta, New signing. and the B team (samper etc) as backups by next season.

Pogba seems most probable as time goes on.

Pogba recently said there is a chance of him staying at Juve and if France win the Euro 2016 or have a good campaign I can see Juve bumping up Pogba transfer fee. I bet thats what they were banking on all along, 80 million now and a good Euro performance over 100 million, if not they'll still get the 80 million.

I can see Pogba's price drastically decreasing as-well
doesn't matter how much he costs though Barca seem all in on him based on this transfer season.
all it takes is juve to do bad (which has a chance after losing so many stars like pirlo vidal tevez) and france not to win it.. which can't be too hard germany will probably take the euro's.

the only issue i see with getting him (and a small one at that) is that the english clubs seem to have a lot of interest in him
I may be wrong but i could of sworn i saw an interview where he said he doesn't want to return to england so my money is on madrid and barca

Winter is Coming wrote:Pogba recently said there is a chance of him staying at Juve and if France win the Euro 2016 or have a good campaign I can see Juve bumping up Pogba transfer fee. I bet thats what they were banking on all along, 80 million now and a good Euro performance over 100 million, if not they'll still get the 80 million.

Is that why Juventus rejected €100m offers this yr ?(including an €80m from Barça rejected)

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Winter is Coming wrote:Pogba recently said there is a chance of him staying at Juve and if France win the Euro 2016 or have a good campaign I can see Juve bumping up Pogba transfer fee. I bet thats what they were banking on all along, 80 million now and a good Euro performance over 100 million, if not they'll still get the 80 million.

Is that why Juventus rejected €100m offers this yr ?(including an €80m from Barça rejected)

It just simply wouldn't be a wise decision at the end to let him go hence the rejections, especially looking at your departure/injury list at the moment, he will be needed for the league cups and CL, Juventus priorities. You have no replacement for him at the moment, without it Juve will reject 100 of bids until they find one.

At the end he may want to leave 2-3 years down the road and he'll still go for a ridiculous price, but if Juve can get 2-3 years if not more out of him why not. Not like they'll bend over for any club when it comes to transfer fees.

Donuts wrote:Gundogan hasn't done shit since his injury to show he is barca material.
next summer we need one midfield to replace iniesta and that's all..
well have Rakitic, Rafinha, Turan, Iniesta, New signing. and the B team (samper etc) as backups by next season.

Pogba seems most probable as time goes on.

He's been balling this season, wtf are you talking about?

Rafinha and Turan are Barca material tho (:

Turan is Barca material, he'll prove many wrong. Rafinha is also fine for most of the games

Donuts where you been mate, Gundogan is already showing glimpses of his old form

Iniesta/Arda/Denis/Rafinha
Rakitic/Rafinha/Gundogan
Busquets/Samper

This would be a great situation going into 2016/2017

IMO

Not gonna complaing if we sign Verratti instead of Gundogan though. Even better

Why even bring up Gundogan? Lucho wants experienced/veteran proven La Liga players. Gundogan would need to sign for someone like Eibar and play for 2-3 seasons before Lucho even considers, bruh

Look at names like Iborra to join us in the future, or Tiago from Atletico. That's probably what Lucho stays up at night talking to the board about.

Lucho: "Hey board, how about we pay the 80M release clause for 34 year old Tiago? He has a ton of La Liga experience and can play in the midfield! That way Atletico can turn around and buy two great young players with that 80M, and we can have a veteran on our team. That's exactly what we need."

Board: "Sure that sounds great, we won't undermine your opinion since we don't know shit about football and trust you, we will get the money together."

Lucho: "Ok great! Let's go ahead and sell Samper to the lowest bidder possible, to make sure we have room for Tiago. Our future will be in better hands with a veteran as oppose to trusting youth players that have given all for our badge since they were 9. Tiago earned it since he has won La Liga before and Samper hasn't."

Ve, por favor.

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Donuts wrote:Gundogan hasn't done shit since his injury to show he is barca material.
next summer we need one midfield to replace iniesta and that's all..
well have Rakitic, Rafinha, Turan, Iniesta, New signing. and the B team (samper etc) as backups by next season.

Pogba seems most probable as time goes on.

He's been balling this season, wtf are you talking about?
Rafinha and Turan are Barca material tho (:

linetty wrote:
Donuts where you been mate, Gundogan is already showing glimpses of his old form

do you guys usually get this impressed with a player who only played 3-4 games against not a recognizable team?
the guy is unproven since his injury idk why it's even a debate.

and i am glad i am not the only one who thinks turan is barca material i think he will also prove many people wrong.
same with rafinha, he's still very young. (and by proving wrong i mean able to compete against other players i'm not expecting them to all of a sudden turn into iniesta or someshit)

You can bookmark my name, I am fully against the Turan signing.

Do I think he will provide some solid service here and here, yes of course. Do I think he should of been brought in to our midfield, at 30 years old, injury prone (already been injured allot and hasn't even played for us yet), and cost an arm and a leg when there were better options out there? No I don't believe he was what we needed. I think for his price, and what we will  get out of him yes I believe he wasn't the guy we needed. I honestly still don't know what position he was brought in to play...sure as hell isn't a Barcelona midfielder, which apparently he is coming in to bench Rakitic. Ridiculous. For what he cost, he better be a top, top player...and I honestly don't believe he's all that much better than Rafinha. Not to mention he will take time away from Rafinha, which is BS, as I believe that with regular playing time that Rafinha can become a very, very solid player

Obviously as a Barca fan I will support him, and want him to succeed. Just still don't get this signing.

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I reckon PSG will hold onto Verratti which leaves us with Pogba. Prefer the former but like Pogba nonetheless. I admire his technique and skill on the ball.

Looks like we could have our brand new Iniesta heir.

Then Turan is the older Rafinha heir?

Turan is a backup for Neymar and Messi imo

He can play several positions

I really dont understand the transfer stragety if its as suggested.

We cant get Verratti so want Pogba? Nah, I dont believe it. I dont think we want Verratti at all.

These two are incredibly different players, you get totally different things. If your looking at Verratti its to fill a void in the squad we currently dont have. If you want Pogba its not because we dont have some of the elements he brings, he just want a better/future better player.

I think the only people who want Verretti to come is the boy himself and a group of fans. Barca themselves probably have very little intrest, especially as they know he would be near impossible to get anyway.

Hmm. IMO it's the other way around. Verratti would fill a void that we don't really have anymore since Xavi left. A midfield conductor who will dictate the play from deeper positions. Pogba on the other hand is an all-around skill player and we have enough of those traits already (basically the front 3 + Iniesta provide all the things that Pogba is good at). He'd bring more physicality in midfield, that would be a new aspect.

In any case I wouldn't mind either although I'd prefer Verratti which is impossible and € 100M for Pogba is a joke but in principle both will be good additions.

That is what I meant, I rushed that post and didnt explain it well I guess.

I don't think Verratti would fill any void. He is no Xavi. He can lose the ball near his own box quite often. I prefer Rakitic to him right now, wouldn't mind him as an Iniesta replacement, but Pogba would be better as he has the ability to be an absolute world beater, that Verratti doesn't have, and I still think Pogba - Rakitic would dominate midfield posession enough.

And Lucho asking for more signings according to MD.
It's a shame how he treats la Masia and the need he has for ultra-wide squads.

Veratti is a no brainer tbh.. I dont care whatever celien pogba has. Neymar >> pogba in anything, messi >> pogba in anything, suarez > pogbg in anything. But, veratti is the kind of orchestrator we could really do with right now, idc if he's never nominated for the ballon d'or or if his celien is as low as a carpet.

Pogba is not a forward... why do you compare him to forwards?

I'd

Bankz wrote:Veratti is a no brainer tbh.. I dont care whatever celien pogba has. Neymar >> pogba in anything, messi >> pogba in anything, suarez > pogbg in anything. But, veratti is the kind of orchestrator we could really do with right now, idc if he's never nominated for the ballon d'or or if his celien is as low as a carpet.

WRONG.
Pretty sure Pogba >>> Messi or Neymar in aerial duels

Verratti loses the ball near the box because he plays near the box. Of course Rakitic and Pogba never do because they aint anywhere it, they dont have the responsibility to come and get it.

Verratti's performance vs Chelsea is better than anything Pogba has every done as far as im concerned. And I do like Pogba alot.