Pepe has humanised ever since Mourinho left.

EL Patron wrote:

RED wrote:Without a doubt he's a cnut. but my biggest surprise is why do players react to him. He's an expert at winding up oppo players.

Just ignore him. Gabriel allowed his emotions to get the better of him. smh

There is nothing emotional about that, he went to defend his team mate. Costa elbowed,headbutted/pushed Koscielny yet the ref and the players din't do anything to stop it. He kept doing it so someone obviously had to do something, if anything its Mike dean who is the idiot for letting Costa get away with almost anything. Thats like two reds in one go

Koscielny didn't get involved though, even though he was the victim. He knew better.
Stupidity by Gabriel, he cost his team a point.

Pretty sure he headbutted Muller at the WC since then lol.

Pepe has gone the other end seriously though, he now playacts and dives instead of kicking people

Peccadillo wrote:Its easy to say Paulista shouldn't react now that he's been sent off but the fact remains neither booking against him can be justified.

Mike Dean is a fool and never does us any favours. Costas trolling may have worked but any sensible referee should have sent him off, if anything.

He kicked him, that's pure stupidity there is no justification for that and as shit as the ref was at controlling the situation he's completely irrelevant when it comes to that.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

EL Patron wrote:

RED wrote:Without a doubt he's a cnut. but my biggest surprise is why do players react to him. He's an expert at winding up oppo players.

Just ignore him. Gabriel allowed his emotions to get the better of him. smh

There is nothing emotional about that.

Of course there is lol, it went way beyond defending his team mate. That carried on for ages with them going at each other. Costa trolled the *bleep* out of him and it worked.  Of course the ref should have never allowed to go any further after he booked them both.

Mole please stop playing devil advocate aka trolling

He was defending his team mate then mike dean came out of nowhere and booked him. While talking to Mike dean, Costa slapped him in the chest in front of the ref yet nothing was done yet you are saying its his fault. So basically its his fault for standing up for a team mate who is being assaulted ?. What kind of logic is this  not sure if serious ffs

He's got them 3 points.

Looking at the whole thing i think Gabriel just lost it at the end...why did he kick costa infront of the ref? stupid.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Pretty sure he headbutted Muller at the WC since then lol.

Pepe has gone the other end seriously though, he now playacts and dives instead of kicking people

"Headbutted" yet it wasn't near as cardable as Costa's on Kos

Also "at Madrid". He's always playacted, just like very single player in men's football does. Pepe has never been as bad as people claimed he is, only has had incidents once every 4 years or something.

But who am I to argue with someone who hasn't watched a Madrid game in 5 years prob.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

EL Patron wrote:

RED wrote:Without a doubt he's a cnut. but my biggest surprise is why do players react to him. He's an expert at winding up oppo players.

Just ignore him. Gabriel allowed his emotions to get the better of him. smh

There is nothing emotional about that, he went to defend his team mate. Costa elbowed,headbutted/pushed Koscielny yet the ref and the players din't do anything to stop it. He kept doing it so someone obviously had to do something, if anything its Mike dean who is the idiot for letting Costa get away with almost anything. Thats like two reds in one go

Koscielny didn't get involved though, even though he was the victim. He knew better.
Stupidity by Gabriel, he cost his team a point.

kozz has experience, I dont think Gabriel has played against Costa before. Now he knows

Twoism wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:

EL Patron wrote:There is nothing emotional about that, he went to defend his team mate. Costa elbowed, headbutted/pushed Koscielny yet the ref and the players din't do anything to stop it. He kept doing it so someone obviously had to do something, if anything its Mike dean who is the idiot for letting Costa get away with almost anything. Thats like two reds in one go

Koscielny didn't get involved though, even though he was the victim. He knew better.
Stupidity by Gabriel, he cost his team a point.

kozz has experience, I dont think Gabriel has played against Costa before. Now he knows

Exactly. He should have known better though. He could have informed himself lol.

Freeza wrote:Pepe has never been as bad as people claimed he is, only has had incidents once every 4 years or something.

ffs

Freeza wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Pretty sure he headbutted Muller at the WC since then lol.

Pepe has gone the other end seriously though, he now playacts and dives instead of kicking people

"Headbutted" yet it wasn't near as cardable as Costa's on Kos

Also "at Madrid". He's always playacted, just like very single player in men's football does. Pepe has never been as bad as people claimed he is, only has had incidents once every 4 years or something.

But who am I to argue with someone who hasn't watched a Madrid game in 5 years prob.

So defensive

He isn't wrong

He's wrong about at least 3 things there so yes he is.

Twoism wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:

EL Patron wrote:There is nothing emotional about that, he went to defend his team mate. Costa elbowed, headbutted/pushed Koscielny yet the ref and the players din't do anything to stop it. He kept doing it so someone obviously had to do something, if anything its Mike dean who is the idiot for letting Costa get away with almost anything. Thats like two reds in one go

Koscielny didn't get involved though, even though he was the victim. He knew better.
Stupidity by Gabriel, he cost his team a point.

kozz has experience, I dont think Gabriel has played against Costa before. Now he knows

Gabriel has played against Costa in Spain before so he knows his antics, lets not act like he is stupid. if anything the others did not do enough to stand for their team mates. Look at how Chelsea players surrounded the ref when Gabriel did that little kick ? Compare that to the response from Arsenal players when Costa assaulted Koscielny ? Compare that to when Costa put his hands on Gabriel ? where is the team unity ? blaming the only guy who stood up for his team mate is a little unfair ffs

linetty wrote:

Freeza wrote:Pepe has never been as bad as people claimed he is, only has had incidents once every 4 years or something.

ffs

So what exactly can you name that warranted "dirty player in the world" that hasn't been stepping on Messi's hand or Kicking the Getafe player?

@Mole all I'm trying to say though is that Ramos and Arbeloa are much dirtier. That Getafe incident has really imprinted itself in people's mind (as it should, was an absolute disgrace) but Pepe isn't a dirty player as Ramos, Costa, Arbeloa, Raul Garcia etc.

I never denied that though lol, i said that he's gone the other way and now is more Busquets than De Jong lol.

EL Patron wrote:

Twoism wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:Koscielny didn't get involved though, even though he was the victim. He knew better.
Stupidity by Gabriel, he cost his team a point.

kozz has experience, I dont think Gabriel has played against Costa before. Now he knows

Gabriel has played against Costa in Spain before so he knows his antics, lets not act like he is stupid. if anything the others did not do enough to stand for their team mates. Look at how Chelsea players surrounded the ref when Gabriel did that little kick ? Compare that to the response from Arsenal players when Costa assaulted Koscielny ? Compare that to when Costa put his hands on Gabriel ? where is the team unity ? blaming the only guy who stood up for his team mate is a little unfair ffs

Never blame Gabriel but there is always risk to get involed against Costa. Also Mike Dean is always an idiot, all Arsenal players know that except Gabriel.

U can clearly see Costa just elbowed Bellerin and idiot Dean ignored like nothing happens. That was after he sent off Santi mind u.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I never denied that though lol, i said that he's gone the other way  and now is more Busquets than De Jong lol.

Pepe isn't good at it though. Makes my heart skip a beat everytime. He dives like a retard

True, he's no Ramos

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPRQBAHXAAA7K5q.jpg

Just seen it. Disgusting. Should get a ban from the FA.

RealGunner wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPRQBAHXAAA7K5q.jpg

I just kept wondering to myself "What would it take for Costa to actually get sent off in this game?".

Absolutely astonishing stuff. He is scary good at manipulation. There are simply few players in the world who are better at mind games than him at the moment.

He has been an absolute a-hole since he was at Rayo so not surprising things are still continuing. But unlike Suarez, this sort of dickery is controlled, the man knows exactly what he is doing and like Lewis, how he isn't sent off for this is really something. Think Xabi Alonso without the gentleman like aura.

Re: the Pepe debate: Pepe has mellowed a lot but his dives look clumsy due to his athletic build. Like watching John Cena do ballet or something. He is a CB in La Liga so he is always looking to do dirty things.

I'd vote for myself tbh

He's top 5 though