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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:42 pm

Pellegrini is a blessed manager, he has a virtually limitless budget with which to express his ideas. Yet, 3 years down the road, his Man City team are very lackluster. No one quite expected them to beat Barca, but the manner in which they lost was completely unacceptable, and that is down to the coach. Likewise in the league they have not only squandered every opportunity they've had to close the gaps but if they continue at this pace a top 4 finish is not guaranteed. His talent lies on building good teams and playing attractive football, but lately he has gone for players that lack technique and he has not demonstrated a tactical acumen for big games required of top coaches. This last point is most noticeable in the Champions League, where ironically he has done worse with the two big budget teams he has coached (City and Real) than with the two underdogs (Malaga and Villareal).
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Post by mr-r34 Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:50 pm

The question really is has Pellegrini actually taken them anywhere?

How is this man no fired yet.
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Post by izzy Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:53 pm

mr-r34 wrote:The question really is has Pellegrini actually taken them anywhere?


That's a legitimate fair point to make.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:53 pm

Tbf he's not really the one buying all these players, in any case the unlimited budget thing is a bit moot seeing as they consistently buy the wrong players.

The problem isn't the manager and it never has been, the problem is it's an imbalanced squad which lacks a healthy mixture of brain and brawn. Unless you fix that no manager in the world will make them successful on the European stage.

They need to completely overhaul the team to balance out the lack of technical and intelligent players with all the strength and pace, until they do that absolutely nothing will change.


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Post by neuro11 Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:53 pm

mr-r34 wrote:The question really is has Pellegrini actually taken them anywhere?


CL knockout round from a very tough group :coffee:

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:57 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Tbf he's not really the one buying all these players, in any case the unlimited budget thing is a bit moot seeing as they consistently buy the wrong players.

The problem isn't the manager and it never has been, the problem is it's an imbalanced squad which lacks a healthy mixture of brain and brawn. Unless you fix that no manager in the world will make them successful on the European stage.

They need to completely overhaul the team to balance out the lack of technical and intelligent players with all the strength and pace, until they do that absolutely nothing will change.


Surely he has a significant input on signings? I have a hard time believing City are signing anyone without Pellegrini's approval, or that they're not seeking out positions that he feels need to be strengthened.

mr-r34 wrote:The question really is has Pellegrini actually taken them anywhere?

How is this man no fired yet.

1 league title, 1 fa cup
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:59 pm

He has a input but it's quite clear the ex Barca people on the board are the main instigators of it all.
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Post by izzy Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:00 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:1 league title, 1 fa cup


So did Mancini..................
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Post by McAgger Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:19 pm

He won the COC not the FA Cup which is twice as prestigious and important than COC.
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Post by LeBéninois Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:28 pm

They are not spending money wisely. The teams still relies on players they bought years ago Aguero, Silva and Yaya.
Too much bad choices when it comes to get new defenders meanwhile they seem obsessed with getting goalscorers.
Sagna ,Clichy ? Lol these guys are mainly there for the $ .

That being said the manager should be blamed too. I think he's leaving this summer as well as Yaya.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:04 am

I want to take a moment and remember the mass GL hype fest over the 'Amazing intelligent transfer strategy' City deployed 2 Summers ago.

GOAT squad.
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Post by nasir6371 Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:37 am

Don't call me James wrote:He won the COC not the FA Cup which is twice as prestigious and important than COC.

In 2 year did what liverpool been trying for a quarter if a century. :coffee:


If we finish strong and retain 2nd place, no reason to sack him unless we can bring in Carlo Ancelotti.


Need the squad to be blown up tho. Bring in youth. Need the following players gone:
Toure :facepalm:
Fernando :facepalm:
Nasri: This POS is starting when players like Lopes are out on loan  :facepalm:
Kompany: It was Hart vs Barca+Kompany tonight :facepalm:  
Dzeko: If we get a decent offer sell
Jovetic

Bring in new DM, CM, CAM, RB/LB, Pacey wide forward
Promote Denyar, Lopes, Iheanacho form the academy.
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Post by Kick Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:18 am

I'd agree that City need to bring in young players.

And they need to build a team around Aguero and Silva. With Milner looking likely to leave and Lampard probably on the way out, too. This summer is an ideal time for City to change up their squad a bit.
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Post by futbol Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:25 am

I have no clue how Txiki and Soriano are so chit in the transfer market for City. They made some of the most awesome transfers in Barca history (Alves, Keita, Yaya, Eto'o, Deco, Giuly, Marquez, Belleti, Larsson ...). Agent Txiki and agent Soriano. Proud

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Post by windkick Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:30 am

If anybody should be replaced its Txikiand whomever else is involved with transfers
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Post by guest_07 Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:40 am

the highest achievement he got in cl was a 2006 cl semifinal with villarreal, thanks to riquelme

that's show what a class of coach pellegrini are........................

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Post by Art Morte Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:48 am

The first point that should be made was made in the first post after OP. Pellegrini hasn't really taken City anywhere. They play the same as under Mancini. I've seen zero difference in tactics and style. A few players have changed, but none of the new ones have brought anything special to the team.

As a City manager, Pellegrini = Mancini.
Mancini got canned, so I'm guessing Pellegrini will, too, after the season. No obvious replacements spring to mind, though.
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Post by MaraVilla Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:53 am

guest_07 wrote:the highest achievement he got in cl was a 2006 cl semifinal with villarreal, thanks to riquelme

that's show what a class of coach pellegrini are........................


MALAGA reached the semi finals against bvb in 2013 and was a goal away from making their first UCL final appearance. Suspect

Was looking at their squad and the average age is 29.6 affraid going to be extremely hard revamping the squad with FFP in play. They've wasted a shitload of money on average players and now it's come back to bite them.
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Post by Kamikaze692 Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:33 am

MaraVilla wrote:
guest_07 wrote:the highest achievement he got in cl was a 2006 cl semifinal with villarreal, thanks to riquelme

that's show what a class of coach pellegrini are........................


MALAGA reached the semi finals against bvb in 2013 and was a goal away from making their first UCL final appearance. Suspect

Was looking at their squad and the average age is 29.6 affraid going to be extremely hard revamping the squad with FFP in play. They've wasted a shitload of money on average players and now it's come back to bite them.


malaga reached the Quarters only. Went out to Dortmund courtesy of an offside goal in Injury Time. Not the semi finals
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Post by mr-r34 Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:44 am

nasir6371 wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:He won the COC not the FA Cup which is twice as prestigious and important than COC.

In 2 year did what liverpool been trying for a quarter if a century. :coffee:


If we finish strong and retain 2nd place, no reason to sack him unless we can bring in Carlo Ancelotti.


Need the squad to be blown up tho. Bring in youth. Need the following players gone:
Toure :facepalm:
Fernando :facepalm:
Nasri: This POS is starting when players like Lopes are out on loan  :facepalm:
Kompany: It was Hart vs Barca+Kompany tonight :facepalm:  
Dzeko: If we get a decent offer sell
Jovetic

Bring in new DM, CM, CAM, RB/LB, Pacey wide forward
Promote Denyar, Lopes, Iheanacho form the academy.


If you think you guys won that title due to your coach your kidding yourself mate, in a year you guys should of walked the league you got challenged to the last day. Pellegrini adds nothing more than manchini and anything more than whoever comes in next.
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Post by MaraVilla Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:21 am

Kamikaze692 wrote:
MaraVilla wrote:
guest_07 wrote:the highest achievement he got in cl was a 2006 cl semifinal with villarreal, thanks to riquelme

that's show what a class of coach pellegrini are........................


MALAGA reached the semi finals against bvb in 2013 and was a goal away from making their first UCL final appearance. Suspect

Was looking at their squad and the average age is 29.6 affraid going to be extremely hard revamping the squad with FFP in play. They've wasted a shitload of money on average players and now it's come back to bite them.


malaga reached the Quarters only. Went out to Dortmund courtesy of an offside goal in Injury Time. Not the semi finals


ahh cheers for that Thumbs up dono why i keep thinking they made semis Laughing
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:06 pm

For me, Pellegrini did the worst job of the 3 PL teams coaches in this KO stage. He wont get that tag because they had to face Barcelona while Chelsea and Arsenal "only" had 10 men PSG and Monaco.

But, City barely had a game plan I could recognize in either leg.

They play when they have the ball, but what about when they dont have it? They allow space behind the defence, allow the fullbacks to play 1 v 1, nor do they put the defence under pressure.

How can you dare play 2 strikers in the first leg and not press the 2 CB's AND still allow the holding midfielder time on the ball?

Chelsea been relying on set peices the whole season, its not a surprise they totally failed to dominate 10 men.

Arsenal love to be the unlucky and valiant loser. They are the team who totally wiffs it in the first leg, come back with a great effort in the 2nd and fall just short..no sympathy from me, typical Arsenal.

But City did nothing in either leg, it wasnt even competitive.

I dont know if he has taken them as far as he is capable of, but I do know that this isnt good enough. I doubt he can get more out of this team, so either the team needs to change (it does regardless) or he needs to go.
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Post by mr-r34 Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:16 am

Has Pellegrini taken City as far as he can? Jeff_probst_header_02
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Post by Kick Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:20 am

He'll get the sack, come season's end.
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Post by mr-r34 Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:56 am

Hopefully he does enough damage to keep us dreaming Very Happy
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