You can't behave like that towards the manager lmao. Why is this even a debate?

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Lex wrote:You can't behave like that towards the manager lmao. Why is this even a debate?

Exactly.

Let's get real here.

He's a great little player, but he's just 23 and only at the club for his second season.
He has won shit with Barcelona in this time and neither has he been consistently good.
In fact, his debut season is the first season since 07/08 Barca have no won a major trophy.

Meanwhile, his transfer and the shady shit his father pulled off with the club led to the resignation of the president, criminal investigations and massive tarnishment of the clubs image.

And here he is, making insulting gestures when being subbed off after 70 minutes
Just who the *bleep* does he think he is? And just what is wrong with Barca fans defending this?

The thing is Hans, Neymar has consistently been the 'expendable' member of the front three in Enrique's eyes. He's the first to be subbed off every game and the only one ever benched, even when playing well.

Today I think was the last straw from his point of view. To be the best player on your team and subbed off in the 70th minute, the game after you were benched, is insulting quite frankly. I fully empathise with Neymar, even if his reaction was inappropriate.

Sevilla's unbeaten home record still remains.

come the end of the season, if we lose the league, the fans and president will blame enrique and not neymar, if anything they'll side with neymar to get more fan votes for the next election.

i can't find any real reason to sub out neymar.. no sign of injury or fatigue, i understand his frustration.

Cruijf wrote:The thing is Hans, Neymar has consistently been the 'expendable' member of the front three in Enrique's eyes. He's the first to be subbed off every game and the only one ever benched, even when playing well.

Today I think was the last straw from his point of view. To be the best player on your team and subbed off in the 70th minute, the game after you were benched, is insulting quite frankly. I fully empathise with Neymar, even if his reaction was inappropriate.

Doesn't matter. You have a manager who decides when and who to sub (and these decisions involve more aspects than who was individually good or bad), and behaviour like this is unacceptable from a player, period.

Enrique is a fool. I hope Barcelona sack this clown. The guy should not coach any top team.

I agree with Hans Neymar shouldn't do that.It is clearly unprofessional. He should be given at least warning.

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Anyone would walk in Serie Zzzzzzzzz

Donuts wrote:come the end of the season, if we lose the league, the fans and president will blame enrique and not neymar, if anything they'll side with neymar to get more fan votes for the next election.

i can't find any real reason to sub out neymar.. no sign of injury or fatigue, i understand his frustration.

You think injury or fatigue are the only reasons that could motivate a substitution? One where a midfielder comes on for an attacker when the team is leading but losing control over the game? pls

As for the first part, take a moment and think about what that says about your club and its fans.

if you were a manger..

and want to regain control sure, it's acceptable to bring on the fourth midfielder.

but the choice is extremely easy.

hmm do i take out the guy who has rested for a full week that has scored a goal and has been probably man of the match?? or do i take out the guy who missed an open net and 2 1 on 1's..
oh and he also played 3 games in 8 days..

the choice is pretty easy to me i am kinda scared that many here don't agree how dumb the choice was.

Neymar is right on this, what a bizarre change.

Xavi can't control the game when opposition has legs to run, sad that it took Scrubrique this long to realize what everyone else has been seeing months now.

(not so) secret agent Enrique

Right.
Donuts and harmonica from goallegacy on the interweb think it is a dumb choice to take off Neymar and not Suarez, that's why Enrique is a complete fool and thus Neymar is in the right about making insulting gestures towards his manager.

nice going

Hapless_Hans wrote:Right.
Donuts and harmonica from goallegacy on the interweb think it is a dumb choice to take off Neymar and not Suarez, that's why Enrique is a complete fool and thus Neymar is in the right about making insulting gestures towards his manager.

nice going

While I too question his reasoning to the substitution, you don't insult your boss like that and yes, Lucho is Neymar's boss. And more importantly, Lucho is a legend at Barcelona. So not only he disrespected his boss but also someone with serious clout at Barcelona.

Not a bright move on Neymar's part.

Anyway, as much as I enjoyed seeing Barcelona dropped points, they really should have won this easily. Kudos to Sevilla for not giving up but that opening 30 to 40 minutes from Barcelona should have yielded more than 2 goals.

Idiot move one -> take best player to this point out who has been rested to this game particularly
Idiot move two -> put in 35 year old snail who can't control fast games and can't catch even a tortoise in counterattack

Absolutely genius.

IMO it's no secret why Enrique pulled Neymar. He has had the knack for giving the ball away in really dangerous positions last year and especially this year plus he has been in a slump as seen by his first goal in a month.

In Enrique's mind he must have been thinking were 2-1 up they scored on there only shot on target which the keeper had both hands on the ball and should have saved and if we just don't give the ball away in a bad position we will get out of this place with 3 points.

With all that being said it was the wrong move as Neymar was electric tonight. I understand it, but Enrique was out coached by a mile as Sevilla's subs basically won the game for them.

Either way I understand the move as though Neymar was great he was pulling off some amazing dribbling / nutmegs / passes and they all came off but it just takes one to go wrong in a bad position and were exposed.

This is why managers make a lot of money.

And BTW great post by Hans. With all the shit Neymar has caused and the bad form he's been in you would think he could control himself for a half hour when they get in the locker room to show up his coy club ach, then it's fair game especially with the outcome of the match.

You really shouldn't do that at any club but especially not at Barca, it's just never been a me first place it's really the total opposite. In fact with the result in the game if he goes to the bench quietly it makes Enrique look more the fool.

insulting gestures, wtf are you guys talking about? he just did that italian thing

Ganso wrote:insulting gestures, wtf are you guys talking about? he just did that italian thing

Exactly. Nerman is innocent!

I love Nerman (:

Ganso, what's the story behind that Gif ?

somebody stank, apparently

farfan wrote:Ganso, what's the story behind that Gif ?

It was the argentina and brazil friendly basically calling the team cokeheads

maybe he wanted neymar fitness to remain so that his top form can be shown continuously on coming matches?

it might looks like a lame 1, but there could so many possibilities and analysing behind the move at that very moment,

and no, the point loss shouldn't be blame entirely on luis, unless the play or strategy was flop since the beginning of the game,

if a neymar sub can cost so much trouble/loss for entire barca team, gods, then the sub definitely not a weird 1, u will want nothing bad happen to the goat lad that will save u very matches


still, a manager is a manager, he could sub u at the very 1st minute of the game, and u had to deal with it.