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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:21 pm

Not to mention Barca has to beat Bilbao first Laughing

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Post by futbol Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:21 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Not to mention Barca has to beat Bilbao first Laughing


Haven't won there since 2010 so expect to lose or draw.

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Post by Donuts Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:24 pm

Fußball wrote:Donuts, STFU. We as Culés are humble enough to accept the Copa del Rey only this season. We can't compete with 3 times European champion Ancelotti with 3 times Ballon d'Or winner Cristiano Ronaldo leading Madrid. It's impossible, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

sorry i forget..

anyways heres the heatmap for the atleti-real match.
Spoiler:
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Post by Lex Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:24 pm

Donuts wrote:
Lex wrote:
Donuts wrote: 1 pt lead only in the league :bow: no longer are you guys in control of your destiny, it's ours to lose.
Yours to lose and you're not even top of the table Proud

if we win tomorrow it's just a point lead.. with a game at camp nou at hand so yes technically if we lose the game at camp nou it's our to lose or if we win it we're ontop..

get it yet?
IF you win. Win first before announcing that the league is "yours to lose" Laughing
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Post by Onyx Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:25 pm

Save_us_Modric. hmm

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Post by jontsu Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:26 pm

Bet 100e for Atletico's win, won 255e. Knew they would get trashed.
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Post by Gil Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:31 pm

Fußball was the only Lucho backer from Day one. No other Barca fan should be celebrating this result. Title back in Barca's hands. :bow:

Gutted I couldn't watch Varane, CR, Bale and Kroos getting exposed once again. Sad


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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:32 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Lol @ Varane

If this happened to Ramos or Pepe we wouldn't hear the end of it of how they are scrubs.

Kid has talent but has done absolutely nothing in his career to be deserving of such acclaim, he still has a long way to go and Ancelotti is right to persist with Ramos and Pepe.
problem is that it has happened to them already, and quite a lot i might say.

Regardless of that, he wasnt good at all today, Nacho next to him was even worse, and carvajal and coentrao were dominated in all their duels.

Atletico plain dominated us this game, played harder, won most challenges, attacked with more players and defended with more players than we did.

Imo we lost because of that, intensity, complacency, mistakes, as always, and mainly BBC. it's near impossible to beat a team like this if you have 3 players forward doing none of the defending, or pressing at the very least.

The amount of times atletico were able to transition with no pressure was exhausting. they quickly double up on the wings, juanfran and siqueira go up at will because they know ronaldo and bale wont follow; and they cross to the opposite cross and they have superiority in numbers, wide and down the middle.

Simple tactics but execute it well enough and it's close to perfect.

And Ancelotti... im not sure i should blame him or feel sorry for him. ALl the games vs Atletico look the same, Ramos bailed him out in CL final... but at the same time, it's near impossible to bench Bale and CR, so he sacrifices the others like benzema or isco who are contributing...
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Post by Pseudo Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:33 pm

Is this Atleti's biggest ever win over Madrid? hmm

Feeling sorry for Carlo? He's not some scrub coach that flo should be able to control. He's a 3 time CL winner for Christ's sake! That alone should give enough Leeway to bench his own players but he continues to be a Yes man even to the detriment of the team.


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Post by Freeza Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:37 pm

Ancelotti is in a dilemma.

Benches Bale --> Gets fired for not playing Perez' useless toy.

Plays Bale --> Gets fired because the team sucks with Bale

that lose/lose Proud
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Post by MaraVilla Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:38 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Lol @ Varane

If this happened to Ramos or Pepe we wouldn't hear the end of it of how they are scrubs.

Kid has talent but has done absolutely nothing in his career to be deserving of such acclaim, he still has a long way to go and Ancelotti is right to persist with Ramos and Pepe.


+1

still lol when ppl were calling him a WC player, whilst he cant even start a game unless ramos or pepe is injured rofl

in saying that, will become awesome with more experience.


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Post by Freeza Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:39 pm

Varane is exceptional when he's got some sort of help from a midfield. We defend with 6 men at most... painful to watch
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Post by Donuts Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:47 pm

MaraVilla wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Lol @ Varane

If this happened to Ramos or Pepe we wouldn't hear the end of it of how they are scrubs.

Kid has talent but has done absolutely nothing in his career to be deserving of such acclaim, he still has a long way to go and Ancelotti is right to persist with Ramos and Pepe.


+1

still lol when ppl were calling him a WC player, whilst he cant even start a game unless ramos or pepe is injured rofl

in saying that, will become awesome with more experience.



i honestly think most of the madrid fans have said varane has potential the only one who said anything about him being a top 5 cb or anything was valk.. but that guy rates marcelo as a top 5 winger i wouldn't take his word too strongly.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:52 pm

Freeza wrote:Ancelotti is in a dilemma.

Benches Bale --> Gets fired for not playing Perez' useless toy.

Plays Bale --> Gets fired because the team sucks with Bale

that lose/lose Proud


Easy. Bench Ronaldo hmm
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Post by neuro11 Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:59 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Freeza wrote:Ancelotti is in a dilemma.

Benches Bale --> Gets fired for not playing Perez' useless toy.

Plays Bale --> Gets fired because the team sucks with Bale

that lose/lose Proud


Easy. Bench Ronaldo hmm

No way...not now...Messi is catching him in scoresheet...

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:59 pm

Anyway, the match up vs atletico characterizes the limitations of building a team with CR and Bale. They suck when they have no space to run in, Atleti know that so they are triple teamed on every touch.

They fact that they are also poor off the ball making efforts to open up space for the fullbacks is another problem. the attack becomes static and there is no chance for interplay with other players. Defending off the ball they are equally worse and refuse to press or to do anything like that with any kind of consistency throughout the game.

Meanwhile, Atleti defend with 10 players, and when they launch forward, they always have the numerical advantage.
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Post by neuro11 Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:00 pm

Gil wrote:Fußball was the only Lucho backer from Day one. No other Barca fan should be celebrating this result. Title back in Barca's hands. :bow:

Gutted I couldn't watch Varane, CR, Bale and Kroos getting exposed once again. Sad


if u only knew who is coaching the team Laughing

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:09 pm

Casillas has become extremely pathetic with age, im done with him...

"the first goal was difficult, the ball went through the legs of nacho and was deflected by varane, it wasnt my fault..."

pathetic
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:17 pm

STFU Moal I have it on good authoriteh that Varane is a top 5, arguably top 3 CB as of 2013
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Post by Beautiful Football Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:26 pm

Cristiano Ronaldo's game by numbers vs. Atletico:

0 goals
0 shots on target
0 take-ons completed
0 chances created
0 crosses completed.

well when Messi walk on the field(i go mad at him) at least he puts some passes and dribble, but this is completely just unbelievable.I mean what he did in whole game?? Laughing

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Post by LeSwagg James Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:31 pm

Let's stop comparing Cristiano and Messi please.. There's nothing to compare outside of scoring goals
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Post by MaraVilla Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:33 pm

LeSwagg James wrote:Let's stop comparing Cristiano and Messi please.. There's nothing to compare outside of scoring goals


+1
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Post by jibers Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:34 pm

Beautiful Football wrote:Cristiano Ronaldo's game by numbers vs. Atletico:

0 goals
0 shots on target
0 take-ons completed
0 chances created
0 crosses completed.

well when Messi walk on the field(i go mad at him) at least he puts some passes and dribble, but this is completely just unbelievable.I mean what he did in whole game?? Laughing

rofl

LeSwagg James wrote:Let's stop comparing Cristiano and Messi please.. There's nothing to compare outside of scoring goals

Anyone that knows anything about football knows Messi is in a different league to CR. Best playerin the world my arse. Flopped in every big game Madrid played this season bar Barca game.
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Post by Beautiful Football Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:36 pm

LeSwagg James wrote:Let's stop comparing Cristiano and Messi please.. There's nothing to compare outside of scoring goals

I am not comparing just saying, when Barca losing a match and messi start walking i go mad at him, naturally madrid fans should do the same, i mean it was a pathetic display by three time Ballon d'or winner.

Anyway we should stay on the topic.


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Post by futbol Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:49 pm

I'm just rewatching the game, as said before I missed it live. DOSE "Iker Iker" chants after the first goal by Atleti fans. Proud

HOLY BLEEP, what a goal by Saul. Shocked

Moya Ballon d'Or!

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Post by Donuts Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:04 pm

i mean its easy to hate on iker but just wednesday he was the sole reason you guys probably didn't lose points there either.
to blame just him when your whole team played bad isn't really justified.
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