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8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
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Will it ever beaten?
8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Neymar, Aguero, Sanchez and Suarez are the only one that can break the duopoly. Depends on their club's success though. Aguero is the likeliest.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Didn't mean actually the duopoly, but being top 2 player 8 consecutive seasons.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
now I get it. You're taking about Messi
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
- What the Ballon d'Or would have looked like if it had never been merged with the FPOTY award:
- https://i.imgur.com/vwSwwHP.png
It might be beaten because this new format favors fame over achievements. Notice how in 2010 Sneijder would have won and in 2013 Ribery if only the media vote were to be counted, which is what counted for the original Ballon d'Or.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Hapless_Hans wrote:now I get it. You're taking about Messi
I didn't really get it aswell at first but obviously it had to be about Messi because a) Harmonica and b)2010
Anyway obviously it will be beaten, yes. The goat Nerman is ready
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
No I don't think so.
8 years+
It doesn't even matter if either of the two don't win a trophy all they need to do is keep scoring.
The way the Ballon d'or voting is that, its essentially a popularity contest. Those 2 are way too marketed, only Neymar comes close.
Say Aguero wins the BPL + champions league, I still think Messi or Ronaldo takes it. It'll take injury or god forbid something worse to break it, otherwise I can see 8 become 10 before a change.
edit: Well I got that question wrong
8 years+
It doesn't even matter if either of the two don't win a trophy all they need to do is keep scoring.
The way the Ballon d'or voting is that, its essentially a popularity contest. Those 2 are way too marketed, only Neymar comes close.
Say Aguero wins the BPL + champions league, I still think Messi or Ronaldo takes it. It'll take injury or god forbid something worse to break it, otherwise I can see 8 become 10 before a change.
edit: Well I got that question wrong
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
BarrileteCosmico wrote:https://imgur.com/KFPo8GJ
It might be beaten because this new format favors fame over achievements. Notice how in 2010 Sneijder would have won and in 2013 Ribery if only the media vote were to be counted, which is what counted for the original Ballon d'Or.
Harmonica pls respond...
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Harmonica wrote:For what?
To BCs post. The real Ballon D'or want a popularity contest. This has turned into a farce.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Media today is a farce, the online fight for fanbase's and money clicks has destroyed the validity of media. That's why current method is easily better, than what media alone would be. It maybe worked then, but it doesn't work anymore.jibers wrote:Harmonica wrote:For what?
To BCs post. The real Ballon D'or want a popularity contest. This has turned into a farce.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
"Ever" is a long time. So: yes.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Harmonica wrote:Media today is a farce, the online fight for fanbase's and money clicks has destroyed the validity of media. That's why current method is easily better, than what media alone would be. It maybe worked then, but it doesn't work anymore.jibers wrote:Harmonica wrote:For what?
To BCs post. The real Ballon D'or want a popularity contest. This has turned into a farce.
No chance. The journalists usually pick the right players as they showed in the UEFA best player in Europe which uses the older Ballon D'or format of European journalists. An award handed out annually rather than seasonally with respect to Europe makes 0 sense anyways. The person that finished strongest wins ala CR in 2013.
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Now you are just comparing two different things, UEFA-award consist UEFA competitions like Euro, which half the players don't even play. 4 Germans in front of Messi in 13-14? What a farce that was.jibers wrote:Harmonica wrote:Media today is a farce, the online fight for fanbase's and money clicks has destroyed the validity of media. That's why current method is easily better, than what media alone would be. It maybe worked then, but it doesn't work anymore.jibers wrote:
To BCs post. The real Ballon D'or want a popularity contest. This has turned into a farce.
No chance. The journalists usually pick the right players as they showed in the UEFA best player in Europe which uses the older Ballon D'or format of European journalists. An award handed out annually rather than seasonally with respect to Europe makes 0 sense anyways. The person that finished strongest wins ala CR in 2013.
Fifa Ballon d'Or consist of everything there is and has much larger sampling. So it's the trophy.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
TBH individual trophies in a team sport is pretty daft. Never really believed in a best player.Harmonica wrote:Now you are just comparing two different things, UEFA-award consist UEFA competitions like Euro, which half the players don't even play. 4 Germans in front of Messi in 13-14? What a farce that was.jibers wrote:Harmonica wrote:
Media today is a farce, the online fight for fanbase's and money clicks has destroyed the validity of media. That's why current method is easily better, than what media alone would be. It maybe worked then, but it doesn't work anymore.
No chance. The journalists usually pick the right players as they showed in the UEFA best player in Europe which uses the older Ballon D'or format of European journalists. An award handed out annually rather than seasonally with respect to Europe makes 0 sense anyways. The person that finished strongest wins ala CR in 2013.
Fifa Ballon d'Or consist of everything there is and has much larger sampling. So it's the trophy.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
I doubt it.
Really remarkable that it even happened in this era.
Really remarkable that it even happened in this era.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Hamonica had to make a thread to get some GL love for mehssi too.
Poor missi.
Poor missi.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
FIFA loves Barca and Madrid too much. God it stretches to the point of ridiculousness. Just look at the Team of the Year for the last 5-7 years. Unbelievable.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Fußball wrote:"Ever" is a long time. So: yes.
"ever" is not so long if you take into account global warming and the looming threat of nuclear warfare. Mosquitoes, rats and cockroaches don't play football. Yet.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Hapless_Hans wrote:Fußball wrote:"Ever" is a long time. So: yes.
"ever" is not so long if you take into account global warming and the looming threat of nuclear warfare. Mosquitoes, rats and cockroaches don't play football. Yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Real_Madrid_C.F._season#Players
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
Bah gawd 2078, humans are gone, cockroaches have taken over the world.
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Re: 8 consecutive years world top 2 player, will it ever be beaten?
El Gunner wrote:FIFA loves Barca and Madrid too much. God it stretches to the point of ridiculousness. Just look at the Team of the Year for the last 5-7 years. Unbelievable.
The team of the year is voted on by players, can't really say its FIFA
Though it is ridiculous.
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