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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:19 pm

Higuain LOOOOL

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Post by djfawnz Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:20 pm

Dat Higuain attempt tho
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Post by Robespierre Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:24 pm

Hap , will be Wolfsburg-Inter broadcasted on Sky Deutschland ?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:33 pm

Robespierre wrote:Hap , will be Wolfsburg-Inter broadcasted on Sky Deutschland ?


On Sky and on free tv Kabel 1
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Post by Robespierre Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:38 pm

ffs
besides with Carrizo in place of Handanovic
I hope Matthaus won' t disclaim us
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Post by Cruijf Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:46 pm

Art Morte wrote:I see that Parma played their home game today (0 - 0 against Atalanta), so are they going to play their games now? How did they get the money to continue? I remember their previous game was cancelled / postponed.


Serie A clubs gave them a 5 mil bail out on the condition they play the rest of the games in their season.
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Post by djfawnz Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:59 pm

Juan Jesus and Rannochia are very bad together. JJ didnt even looked back got that goal
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Post by salmano9 Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:07 pm

DeviAngel wrote:Krasic was awesome too the first 2-3 months and then he was found out. Speed merchants often lack ball control and technique.

lol this guy was a headless chicken, even though I fell in love with him when he came
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Post by djfawnz Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:13 pm

Krasic was our best player for a whole year. Then Conte came and he only played like 4 or 5 games, even scored a winning goal. If Krasic was "found out", it wasnt in Serie A......Moreover, if a person is speedy, does not mean they would lack control or technique...
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Post by Art Morte Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:15 pm

Cruijf wrote:
Art Morte wrote:I see that Parma played their home game today (0 - 0 against Atalanta), so are they going to play their games now? How did they get the money to continue? I remember their previous game was cancelled / postponed.


Serie A clubs gave them a 5 mil bail out on the condition they play the rest of the games in their season.


Oh, okay, well, that sounds like a good and reasonable thing to do Thumbs up
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Post by DeviAngel Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:11 pm

djfawnz wrote:Krasic was our best player for a whole year. Then Conte came and he only played like 4 or 5 games, even scored a winning goal. If Krasic was "found out", it wasnt in Serie A......Moreover, if a person is speedy, does not mean they would lack control or technique...


Name one speed merchant that isn't found out and has ball control and technique? Except Ronaldo and Robben they are once in a life time players. And Krasic was our best player for half a season the next half he started losing form, was marked out easily. If he was so good he wouldn't play in Fenerbahce's B team in second league ffs.

Robben maybe would be easy to mark too if he wasn't left footed player.


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Post by farfan Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:20 pm

Vibe wrote:
farfan wrote:
Vibe wrote:A fresh speed merchant in Serie A always catches defenders unprepared at first.Then it was Gervinho and now it is Mo Salah,before them Biabiany.They always get found out eventually.

when did Gervinho get found out exactly ?

his form has dipped after the AFCON and the entire Roma team has been shit since January .


January 28th,3:50 PM.

It is a process,there isn't an exact moment.


it's a process that is yet to happen and probably never will .
Biabiany was always a scrub who got overrated for 5 minutes after playing well for a handful of games.

using him as a benchmark to predict the future of proven and tested commodities like Gervinho ( national team , ligue 1 , Euope ) and Salah ( CL/ Europa league ) is an insult to these players .
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Post by Kaladin Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:21 pm

This is a friendly reminder that Napoli lost to Milan
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:35 pm

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio/serie_a/roma/2015/03/08-399630/Garcia%3A+«Squadra+scarsa.+Non+la+riconosco+più»

Garcia: My team is weak. I no longer recognize it. We play ugly football. We could go another 2 or 3 hours without scoring if we keep going down this path. We have very little time to turn this around.
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Post by farfan Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:36 pm

no shit Rudi .
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Post by Robespierre Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:00 pm

lmao I never would have realized to tie this match :bow:

From 2-0 to 2-2 at that hell called San Paolo when 20 minutes missed ... Proud of my players today . Unforunately JJ was awful, otherwise we could even win .

Palacio is still finished, but if you were a great player (how much I loved him in these 2 years and also to Boca Juniors and Genoa ) you can be difference maker just for one day and anyway still better than Poldi who looks like exactly a Eramus student in Milano :bow:

It won't change our table, but these are matches very useful to grown mentally and they can be  important bricks for the future
I made the example of Liverpool under Rodgers since January 2013 . Because it was a big team who came (as us) from leagues of 7th places, they improved something since January but it wasn't enough to get EL place ( I think we 'll win have same destiny ) but those matches were bricks for next years

Napoli team doesn't talk to talk with Sky after the match Laughing
The tie got angry them . This counts as a victory for me smoking

I understand Napoli.
I understand it well.
It' s hard not have for 55 matches in a row a penalty against your team at San Paolo.
They aren't used to it.


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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:09 pm

6 Serie A matches today

3x 0-0 draws
1x 1-1 draw
1x 2-2 draw
1x 3-2 win

Why do they call it Serie Zzzz again?
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Post by Robespierre Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:16 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:6 Serie A matches today

3x 0-0 draws
1x 1-1 draw
1x 2-2 draw
1x 3-2 win

Why do they call it Serie Zzzz again?


following the words said from Garcia maybe because some watch Roma
Garcia is right on paper , because Roma was awful in these 3 months . And despite this , it keeps 2nd place because Napoli always bottles it.
But he can't complain just the players. Can you play football with no CFs?
you can do it just if you are Barca ffs
I didn't understand how Roma thought to score today .
The truth Garcia isn't giving game to Roma
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Post by McLewis Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:22 pm

Meh, There's plenty of blame to go around honestly. Garcia for his refusal to revamp his tactics and steadily heaping pressure on the team with his scudetto talk long after it became obvious we weren't the side from last season, Sabatini for the panic buys, and the players for their lethargy. Even the fans for their ridiculously atmospheric expectations.



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Post by djfawnz Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:28 am

Walcott, Pedro, Sanchez, Cuadrado, Bale, Lucas, Mirallas, Gervinho, Reus, Griezmann, Di Maria, Taarabt, Ribery, Neymar, Hazard, the Atletico Madrid turkish, just a couple from the top of my head....

Krasic was on form and our most important player of Del Neri's squad. The summer Conte arrived, he was being linked with Chelsea. Even after being on the bench for basically a year (Conte's choice) he was sold for a good 10-15m. Whatever happened to him in Turkey and France is not because he was "found out", even if he was, it wasnt surely in Juventus. He was 26 or 27 when he joined Juventus while playing in Moscow and for Serbia, then all of the sudden, people recognize his one dimensional play and was nullified? OKAY.
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Post by Vibe Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:58 am

farfan wrote:
Vibe wrote:
farfan wrote:

when did Gervinho get found out exactly ?

his form has dipped after the AFCON and the entire Roma team has been  shit since January .


January 28th,3:50 PM.

It is a process,there isn't an exact moment.


it's a process that is yet to happen and probably never will .
Biabiany was always  a scrub who got overrated for 5 minutes after playing well for  a handful of games.

using him as a benchmark to predict the future of proven and tested  commodities like Gervinho ( national team , ligue 1 , Euope ) and Salah  ( CL/ Europa league ) is an insult to these players .  


I don't now why is it so difficult to understand.

I'm not saying that they get found out to be garbage player.Their speed trick gets found out and and success rate of it get lower.I don't know where you found me comparing ability of Biabiany to ability of Gervinho or Salah.

You just read what you would like to read.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:26 am

Zola close to be sacked.
Zeman is coming back to Cagliari.
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Post by farfan Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:13 am

Vibe wrote:
farfan wrote:
Vibe wrote:


January 28th,3:50 PM.

It is a process,there isn't an exact moment.


it's a process that is yet to happen and probably never will .
Biabiany was always  a scrub who got overrated for 5 minutes after playing well for  a handful of games.

using him as a benchmark to predict the future of proven and tested  commodities like Gervinho ( national team , ligue 1 , Euope ) and Salah  ( CL/ Europa league ) is an insult to these players .  


I don't now why is it so difficult to understand.

I'm not saying that they get found out to be garbage player.Their speed trick gets found out and and success rate of it get lower.I don't know where you found me comparing ability of Biabiany to ability of Gervinho or Salah.

You just read what you would like to read.


i don't get what's so hard to understand in what i posted  either.

you brought up  Gervinho as one of the " speed merchants " who got found out after italian defenders supposedly adapted to his speed  .

i simply see this as a baseless claim since Gervinho was embarrassing defenders as recently as 3 months ago and doing it  as efficiently as he did  the first day he arrived in italy  18 months prior .

Gervinho and Salah aren't one trick pony type of players like Biabiany and wont be " found out " , and i'd bet they'll actually improve over the years in Serie A .
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:59 am

gervinho and salah aren't speed merchants.
That category is championed by bale and PEA.

The problem with gervinho and salah is their end product tbh.
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Post by DeviAngel Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:06 am

djfawnz wrote:Walcott, Pedro, Sanchez, Cuadrado, Bale, Lucas, Mirallas, Gervinho, Reus, Griezmann, Di Maria, Taarabt, Ribery, Neymar, Hazard, the Atletico Madrid turkish, just a couple from the top of my head....

Krasic was on form and our most important player of Del Neri's squad. The summer Conte arrived, he was being linked with Chelsea. Even after being on the bench for basically a year (Conte's choice) he was sold for a good 10-15m. Whatever happened to him in Turkey and France is not because he was "found out", even if he was, it wasnt surely in Juventus. He was 26 or 27 when he joined Juventus while playing in Moscow and for Serbia, then all of the sudden, people recognize his one dimensional play and was nullified? OKAY.

Seems like speed merchant as term has different meaning for you and me, also the world class. It's pointless to debate or talk about it because of that. But I'll still state my opinion.

Taarabt, Mirallas, Crudado,Lucas, Gervinho are world class players for you? Ok. Gervinho sucks in ball control and technique lol.

Ribery is not a speed merchant ffs. Sanchez, Reus, Griezmann, Di Maria, Neymar and Hazard are not speed merchants. Have you ever watched Hazard before joining Chelsea? I know I did. Di Maria is a hard working player with good ball control something similar to Vidal (before becoming a ghost).

Speed merchant is a football player that relies on his speed to get past opponents. All of the mentioned above have great technique and ball control plus they are not Ronaldo/Bale fast, they are simply above average like let's say Khedira before his injuries.

And I am 100% sure that Pedro in every other club except Barcelona won't be even the half of the player he was. He is raised in Barca's youth team. He has like telepathic connection with their squad, game play and tactics. Take him and rate him as individual and I think you'll see he is not a world class player and also above average player in terms of pace.

Speed merchants often have successful careers in EPL because they play fast paced football with often hoofing the ball. Look at what happens to Bale in La Liga currently.

I don't want to continue talking about Krasic as everyone agrees that he was one dimensional player who had good first half season nothing else, I respect what you think but I don't agree.

As for Gervinho and Salah time will tell but I agree with Vibe currently on this one.


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Post by DeviAngel Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:14 am

FennecFox7 wrote:gervinho and salah aren't speed merchants.
That category is championed by bale and PEA.

The problem with gervinho and salah is their end product tbh.


I don't agree. Gervinho really lacks ball control, If you follow Roma you'll notice this that's why defenders win the duels with ease. He is the best weapon for counter attacks on that I can agree.

I guess time will tell.
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