Galatasaray and Anderlecht drawing and thus not really helping either's chances of progressing plays into Arsenal's hands this opening round.

I get so much satisfaction from Immobile proving his haters wrong.

Don't know how Immobile can get hate considering his last season, solid performances for Italia and even without his superb Arsenal goal on how his general play and passes have been fantastic.

There's a reason why Klopp has so much faith in him.

Arquitescu wrote:Don't know how Immobile can get hate considering his last season, solid performances for Italia and even without his superb Arsenal goal on how his general play and passes have been fantastic.

There's a reason why Klopp has so much faith in him.

You really think he meant that?

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I get so much satisfaction from Immobile proving his haters wrong.

he didn't prove sh** tbh

a lucky goal if ever saw one .

Am I the only one who thinks Mkhitaryan's finishing is too erratic at times for a goal scoring midfielder?

MaestroFavre wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Mkhitaryan's finishing is too erratic at times for a goal scoring midfielder?

His finishing can get worse than Niang's sometimes. At least Niang hits the bar.

@farfan & danyjr:

Yes cause the burst through Arsenal's centre midfield from halfway, running into space between the defence and placement of the ball on the left side was lucky

Not counting his excellent performance goal aside.

Arsenal were out shot 23-3 and failed to make a single tackle in Dortmund's half that first half of the match. Eye-popping stats that a team of their caliber should never be putting up.

Love Wenger, but games like this really make me question his status as an elite level tactician. Arsenal were setup to not show up and that's exactly what they did.

McLewis wrote:Arsenal were out shot 23-3 and failed to make a single tackle in Dortmund's half that first half of the match. Eye-popping stats that a team of their caliber should never be putting up.

Love Wenger, but games like this really make me question his status as an elite level tactician. Arsenal were setup to not show up and that's exactly what they did.

When is the last time anyone has ever said "Wow, Arsene really trumped Top Manager X tactically"? As a tactician he's above average, definitely not top (top being Ancelotti, Mou, Pep, etc).

@Farfan yes let's call dribbling from below the halfway line just lucky . Lucky is if a GK makes a blunder to let an easy shot in, not getting past 3 players.

Arquitescu wrote:@farfan & danyjr:

Yes cause the burst through Arsenal's centre midfield from halfway, running into space between the defence and placement of the ball on the left side was lucky

Not counting his excellent performance goal aside.

that's the lucky part arq

don't tell me you didn't notice it .

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

@Farfan yes let's call dribbling from below the halfway line just lucky . Lucky is if a GK makes a blunder to let an easy shot in, not getting past 3 players.

dribbling from below halfway ?  he ran pretty much unopposed until  the two arsenal defenders closed in on him . then lady luck struck and he managed to get the ball  and himself  ahead of both of  them by literally  stumbling into the box

you can clearly see it in the replay

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

McLewis wrote:Arsenal were out shot 23-3 and failed to make a single tackle in Dortmund's half that first half of the match. Eye-popping stats that a team of their caliber should never be putting up.

Love Wenger, but games like this really make me question his status as an elite level tactician. Arsenal were setup to not show up and that's exactly what they did.

When is the last time anyone has ever said "Wow, Arsene really trumped Top Manager X tactically"? As a tactician he's above average, definitely not top (top being Ancelotti, Mou, Pep, etc).

What I'm saying here is that Wenger, as a tactician capable of much better than what was displayed today, put out a very tactically timid team against a side who echoed their coach's assuredness. To be quite frank, that Arsenal side looked absolutely rattled all game and were never in it from minute 1. For me, that's down to an unsettled mentality and a lack of concrete tactics. Both are Wenger's responsibility and it's truly astounding that he fails at it so often considering his pedigree. That's what I'm getting at here. This isn't about what Pep or Mou would do.

immobile clearly meant it and is good at that trick

Starting to realize that Immobile is the closest thing to Fernando Torres, today.

Excellent use of both-feet, the occassional through ball to split the back line, links-up fantastically, can sometimes disappear but when within the game his presence is large, pace, excellent finishing, strength and an overall IQ to which is high for standards of a CF today.

Of course the Arsenal goal was not lucky as seeing it from a front angle proves it. This goal being possibly the key to unlocking a series of goals coming from Ciro, as the pressure was mounting on him despite his solid general performances.

Ciro Immobile shows again that Kloppo knows what he wants when he asks the board to sign up players.

It's not really that much of a surprise when a striker who cost 20m and scored more than 20 league goals in Italy is actualy useful..?

it's ok if you guys just  don't wanna see it .

he CLEARLY trips and stumbles with the ball which took the arsenal defenders off guard and put him one on one vs cheezney .

great performance overall , but luck played a part in that goal .

at 0:43  
you can see the ball accidentally bouncing off his left foot  when he was clearly trying to cut inside to the left with his right .


....... but what if it wasn't accidental ?

Hearing Bild gave Ozil the worst possible rating in history of the Newspaper...is it true, Germans here ?

farfan wrote:it's ok if you guys just  don't wanna see it .

he CLEARLY trips and stumbles with the ball which took the arsenal defenders off guard and put him one on one vs cheezney .

great performance overall , but luck played a part in that goal .

He tripped but still recovered with a great finish, which is why the goal is good and not great. But scoring a solo goal in the CL against Arsenal is still proving his haters wrong .

AFC XI to play Galatasaray: Szczesny, Chambers, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs, Flamini, Cazorla, Ozil, Alexis, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Welbeck.

NO Chat

Wenger not fudging around tonight

I'm Expecting two good games from this group today.

Smashed Gala lol

Prandelli is awful. Playing 3 at the back at the Emirates

Wele hattrick

Sanchez

Cazorla was immense. Great match from him.