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Post by B-Mac Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:24 pm

rofl rofl

won't show his face for a while in here


PSG going to get there 100 million corrupt sponsorship deal over turned too because United signed a massive Adidas deal rofl Proud

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:30 pm

If Depay, Kuyt and hell Ashley Young can play in Van Gaal's idea of 352 as one of the wing-backs why can't Di Maria lol?

He'd fit like a glove.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:42 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If Depay, Kuyt and hell Ashley Young can play in Van Gaal's idea of 352 as one of the wing-backs why can't Di Maria lol?

He'd fit like a glove.


Depay didn't though, when he came on they switched to 4-3-3 I think.
But true, he could probably do a good job there, question is if it's not a waste of his capabilities.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:43 pm

So that the BS stops a bit...  Madrid were ok to take the loan deal but for too much money.  Also, Madrid weren't willing to loan the wages.  So for PSG to take on Di Maria, they had to dump both Lavezzi/Pastore OR just Cavani to clear the wages for Di Maria.  They were ok to do that if the transfer price remained 60 mil.  But Madrid asked for 80 mil.  Too much money on the transfer + didn't want to sell those players given the transfer price.

Regarding the 100 mil being overturned... that's for the upcoming FFP review, not the one the just passed.  The endorsement money would clear for next season.  That's why they asked for 1 year loan deals with auto-buyouts...  it wouldn't be a problem after this financial review.

If Madrid would have accepted 10 mil now and 50 mil in a year, the deal would have gotten done.  In the end, it was the 75 mil in a year + another 5 in bonuses that killed it.

Di Maria is not worth 80 million...  ever.  That's a ridiculous asking price.  They would also already be 90 million out for transfers for next season.  It just didn't make sense at this price and i totally get it.

That said...  PSG made the same comments after the first round of negotiations for Silva and Ibra.  We all know what happened a few weeks later.  Until the mercato is over, nothing is set in stone.  So who knows.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:48 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:If Depay, Kuyt and hell Ashley Young can play in Van Gaal's idea of 352 as one of the wing-backs why can't Di Maria lol?

He'd fit like a glove.

Depay didn't though, when he came on they switched to 4-3-3 I think.
But true, he could probably do a good job there, question is if it's not a waste of his capabilities.


Even so Ashley Young has excelled there lol, I don't see why Di Maria couldn't.

You practically play as a winger anyway, Cuadrado has excelled in a similar system as a wing back.

There's a difference between a 352 and 532.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:50 pm

Di Maria doesn't want to a go to a non-CL team. So i don't see how Man U is a possibility unless Di Maria changes his mind. He already has a 8 mil net offer from Monaco + Monaco are willing to pay 55 mil all cash now to Madrid... That's the more likely scenario at this point imo.
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Post by Onyx Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:53 pm

Shaw is already at LWB and Di Maria sucks on the right imo.

Best position for him is LCM or LM.

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Post by S Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:54 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/07/manchester-united-favourites-angel-di-maria-after-psg-end-interest
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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:57 pm

The Guardian are just making a deduction... they have no real new info.

In the end, there's an offer from PSG for 10 mil now and 50 mil in 12 months. For Man U to get him, Di Maria would have to agree AND Man U would need to fork up 55 mil+ today. Otherwise, Madrid would just turn around and accept PSG's offer... they'd be stupid not to.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:59 pm

It just says Press Association lol, never noticed that before.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:08 pm

I have it on good authority that PSG are going to destroy FFP when they can be bothered to do so

Stay mad haters

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Post by S Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:10 pm

sportsczy wrote:The Guardian are just making a deduction... they have no real new info.  

In the end, there's an offer from PSG for 10 mil now and 50 mil in 12 months.  For Man U to get him, Di Maria would have to agree AND Man U would need to fork up 55 mil+ today.  Otherwise, Madrid would just turn around and accept PSG's offer...  they'd be stupid not to.


Still fantasizing over this transfer ? rofl Dude get over it,its done.PSG just got shafted by FFP.Nothing they could do about it which useless reports in the French media led you to believe on the contrary.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:14 pm

FFS S FFP has no chance against us if we decide to complain about Uniteds 100M dealio
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Called it from the first day

this was probably the discussion:

Khalif: We really want DiMaria because he would complete our team
Perez: We rate him at 80 ME
Khalif: Oh ok fck him then, to think he would be more expensive than our Ibra Laughing

The press: That's it DiMaria does not want to stay, he is desperate to leave and does not want to come back on the 5th of August to see his team mates as he wants to get paid 8ME net (which would make him the second highest paid player at Madrid rofl ).

a month later......

The press: The negotiations are at an advanced stage it could become official in the coming days, Carlo called DiMaria to plead with him to stay his response was "I am gone"

5th of August arrives.....

The press: DiMaria back in training but waiting for the negotiations to be concluded (despite dimaria looking happy and ready to work)

Nick: DiMaria made a power play wanting so much in wages that not even Ramos has asked for therefore Madrid want to offload him and James comin cemented that Laughing

Reality: PSG made an enquiry, Madrid quoted a figure they couldn't afford and they backed out.

All this merry go around for something that always happens in football. EC rofl DiMarzio rofl

Juve fans there is nothing to worry about, unless Juve need the cash Vidal won't leave. The media know nothing of anything, they just print on hunches and people choose to believe them
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Post by B-Mac Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:57 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:FFS S FFP has no chance against us if we decide to complain about Uniteds 100M dealio


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Post by B-Mac Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:57 pm

S wrote:
sportsczy wrote:The Guardian are just making a deduction... they have no real new info.  

In the end, there's an offer from PSG for 10 mil now and 50 mil in 12 months.  For Man U to get him, Di Maria would have to agree AND Man U would need to fork up 55 mil+ today.  Otherwise, Madrid would just turn around and accept PSG's offer...  they'd be stupid not to.


Still fantasizing over this transfer ? rofl Dude get over it,its done.PSG just got shafted by FFP.Nothing they could do about it which useless reports in the French media led you to believe on the contrary.


S he will die before he admits he's full of it rofl
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Post by Zealous Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:04 pm

Obi Wan Monaco, you're our only hope ffs.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:10 pm

They got shafted because they refused to pay 80 million for Di Maria Laughing Yeah ok. That's how you want to feel about it, you're entitled.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:16 pm

Zealous wrote:Obi Wan Monaco, you're our only hope ffs.
I don't think so Z. Madrid are looking to see if a better offer than the one PSG gave them (60 mil) is going to come in... and Di Maria approves of the club of course. If it does, then they go with that. If it doesn't, then you'll see a miraculous revival of the PSG deal unless PSG are just done with the whole concept by then.

The media report of Monaco offering 55 mil for Di Maria has been rubbished by l'Equipe... which means little when it comes to Monaco since they know nothing Laughing But it doesn't seem to fit their current business model. Pretty in depth interview with Monaco president and they seem committed to develop players like Ocampos, Carrasco, Germain, Martial, Bakayoko, Kondogbia, Fabinho, Kurzawa, etc. So it looks unlikely just by listening to him.
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Post by Zealous Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:00 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Zealous wrote:Obi Wan Monaco, you're our only hope ffs.
I don't think so Z. Madrid are looking to see if a better offer than the one PSG gave them (60 mil) is going to come in... and Di Maria approves of the club of course. If it does, then they go with that. If it doesn't, then you'll see a miraculous revival of the PSG deal unless PSG are just done with the whole concept by then.

The media report of Monaco offering 55 mil for Di Maria has been rubbished by l'Equipe... which means little when it comes to Monaco since they know nothing Laughing But it doesn't seem to fit their current business model. Pretty in depth interview with Monaco president and they seem committed to develop players like Ocampos, Carrasco, Germain, Martial, Bakayoko, Kondogbia, Fabinho, Kurzawa, etc. So it looks unlikely just by listening to him.


Yeah it looks like that's how it will go down. I'm just being greedy lol
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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:05 pm

refusing 60 mil for Di Maria is pretty bold... i'd take that and run without any hesitation. Flo is really being greedy lol. Di Maria is NOT worth 60 mil. He's not worth 8 mil net wages either.

Greed all around lol.
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Post by chad4401 Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:09 pm

tbh james ain't even worth 50m, so since madrid overpaid, then others have to over pay too nothing is wrong with that, they should take 70mil for him
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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:16 pm

somebody has to buy though Laughing  Nobody is going to pay 70+ mil AND 8 mil net.  Just because Madrid/Barca are paying stupid money doesn't mean that everyone else will....
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:27 pm

it would be stupid if you sold a decent squad player. 80 ME is the bare minimum for one of your best players. Perez knows it which is why 80 ME would help soften the blow for an exit of a guy the coach wants to keep and the money could be used for some retail therapy. 80 ME is the highest we will get for any of our players not named ronaldo so I am glad we stuck with that and didn't allow ourselves to get lowballed making us lose arguably our best player for a cut price and on top of that strengthen a European rival. 8 ME net is stupid and I doubt anyone has asked for that not even Ramos.

James was bought to strengthen our team further. Carlo called him the future. With the whole Bernaneu transformation thing doubt we will buy anyone next season. Getting James and losing DiMaria makes our team weaker not stronger. There will be competition but if none of the guys wanted that they would not have come to Real Madrid. We are not Valencia or Atleti ffs


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Post by sportsczy Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:29 pm

Dude. Stop using Madrid/Barca economics. Other than the Barca/Madrid shenanigans... nobody has paid more than 63 mil for a players. That was for Cavani last summer, a CF. Falcao is second at 60 mil, another CF. CFs always go for a ton more than other field players. So 60 mil for a CM/winger is INSANE MONEY.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:31 pm

Aren't the top 2 most expensive signings of all time both 'Wingers'
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