Is this a reality check that TV money and oil teams can't always buy you success? Is Roy keane always right in the end?

It's time for England to focus on their youth, in my opinion Jack Wilshere is the last very good player England produced, too many foreigners are playing in the premier league, English goalkeepers are dying out also.

English players for the most part can't move gracefully with the ball for some reason, its all kick and rush and no brains. no elegance.

If England's Anglo-Saxon cousins over in Germany can produce great players then there's no excuse

Ruben Pardo wrote:IIf England's Anglo-Saxon cousins over in Germany can produce great players then there's no excuse

Except there is. Football isn't the only sport played in England, we have great interest elsewhere in others.

In terms of the CL, looks as if Bayern are carrying the league again, although it can be argued that BVB got unlucky with injuries.

The_Badger wrote:

Ruben Pardo wrote:IIf England's Anglo-Saxon cousins over in Germany can produce great players then there's no excuse

Except there is. Football isn't the only sport played in England, we have great interest elsewhere in others.

pls, you lot are useless at every sport you play other then football

fatman123 wrote:pls, you lot are useless at every sport you play other then football

  

Yayyyyy, let's have a league vs league debate

fatman123 wrote:In terms of the CL, looks as if Bayern are carrying the league again, although it can be argued that BVB got unlucky with injuries.

The_Badger wrote:

Ruben Pardo wrote:IIf England's Anglo-Saxon cousins over in Germany can produce great players then there's no excuse

Except there is. Football isn't the only sport played in England, we have great interest elsewhere in others.

pls, you lot are useless at every sport you play other then football

We have a world class rugby side (union and league), a world class cricket side, world class cyclists, rowers, athletes, motorsport drivers.

Don't talk such shit. We do very well in a wide variety of sports.

izzy wrote:

fatman123 wrote:pls, you lot are useless at every sport you play other then football

  

Cricket?:

Rugby Union?:

Rugby League?:

What other sports do you scrubs play then?

fatman123 wrote:

Cricket?:

Rugby Union?:

Rugby League?:

What other sports do you scrubs play then?

  

You're failing to see the point through the fog of bigotry.

The_Badger wrote:We have a world class rugby side (union and league), a world class cricket side, world class cyclists, rowers, athletes, motorsport drivers.

Don't talk such shit. We do very well in a wide variety of sports.

The best rugby league club in the super league got creamed by a rusty (at best) roosters team and you lot didnt even make the final of the rugby league world cup, your rugby union team couldnt lay a finger on the all blacks and your cricket team spent the whole SUmmer getting belted in Australia, pls go

England are unquestionably great at football and are present in many other sports

4th best Test Cricket side. 4th best RU side. 3rd best RL side.

izzy wrote:

fatman123 wrote:

Cricket?:

Rugby Union?:

Rugby League?:

What other sports do you scrubs play then?

  

Please dont elaborate any further

The_Badger wrote:You're failing to see the point through the fog of bigotry.

Theres nothing bigotry about it, England arent of the top notch quality in either rugby or cricket

The rankings state otherwise.

Never did I say they were the best. What I did state was that England contributes world class participants to a whole variety of other sports other than football.

fatman123 wrote:

izzy wrote:

fatman123 wrote:

Cricket?:

Rugby Union?:

Rugby League?:

What other sports do you scrubs play then?

  

Please dont elaborate any further

The_Badger wrote:You're failing to see the point through the fog of bigotry.

Theres nothing bigotry about it, England arent of the top notch quality in either rugby or cricket

I'm laughing at what you're saying.   

I found it funny (and I somewhat agree).   

Why is this guy allowed to create several anti-English threads without reprimand?

The_Badger wrote:4th best Test Cricket side. 4th best RU side. 3rd best RL side.

Third best RL side becuase there are only three countries who play it Fiji is 5th and the Fijian national side is made up of Australians and NZers who cant arent good enough to play for Aus/NZ now/anymore but still want to play internationaly, same deal for all those Island countires and Italy too

I dont know if your a rugby league fan or not, but if you are then you would know theres a huge drop in quality from Aus and NZ down to England and then an even bigger drop down to Fiji and co. Even the superleague shows that, its full of old NRL players looking for a final pay day and all the top superleague players go to the NRL to test themseves at the top level eg Burgess x4, Graham, Tomkins etc

Same sort of logic can be applies to RU, theres quite a gulf in class between Aus, NZ, SA and Eng compared to the rest of the nations, (the British and Irish Lions team are top top quality though)

And youve got a good ranking in cricket now, but that team is sliding down hill fast, and again outside the top few, theres not too many great cricketing nations

The_Badger wrote:Don't talk such shit. We do very well in a wide variety of sports.

And Germany don't? You might check what we usually manage to win in winter sports, for example...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewiger_Medaillenspiegel_der_Olympischen_Winterspiele

izzy wrote:I'm laughing at what you're saying.   

I found it funny (and I somewhat agree).   

My bad   

rwo power wrote:

The_Badger wrote:Don't talk such shit. We do very well in a wide variety of sports.

And Germany don't? You might check what we usually manage to win in winter sports, for example...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewiger_Medaillenspiegel_der_Olympischen_Winterspiele

What the *bleep* are you on about? Where did I say Germany didn't?

fatman123 wrote:

The_Badger wrote:4th best Test Cricket side. 4th best RU side. 3rd best RL side.

Third best RL side becuase there are only three countries who play it Fiji is 5th and the Fijian national side is made up of Australians and NZers who cant arent good enough to play for Aus/NZ now/anymore but still want to play internationaly, same deal for all those Island countires and Italy too

I dont know if your a rugby league fan or not, but if you are then you would know theres a huge drop in quality from Aus and NZ down to England and then an even bigger drop down to Fiji and co. Even the superleague shows that, its full of old NRL players looking for a final pay day and all the top superleague players go to the NRL to test themseves at the top level eg Burgess x4, Graham, Tomkins etc

Same sort of logic can be applies to RU, theres quite a gulf in class between Aus, NZ, SA and Eng compared to the rest of the nations, (the British and Irish Lions team are top top quality though)

And youve got a good ranking in cricket now, but that team is sliding down hill fast, and again outside the top few, theres not too many great cricketing nations

Again; you seem to be completely missing the point here. We, England, have large participation in a wide variety of sports and we generally excel at them. We may not be the best at every single one, that's an incredibly difficult feat, but we can hold our heads up and say we provide world class participants to a range of popular global sports.

Lex wrote:Why is this guy allowed to create several anti-English threads without reprimand?

Just like refs hah, "inconsistent".

Fatman

lmao fatman

The_Badger wrote:
Again; you seem to be completely missing the point here. We, England, have large participation in a wide variety of sports and we generally excel at them. We may not be the best at every single one, that's an incredibly difficult feat, but we can hold our heads up and say we provide world class participants to a range of popular global sports.

which is of course as opposed to germany and its ~1500 olympic medals?

plus as far as i can tell the "range of popular global sports" is limited to three sports that are popular in 4 countries

che wrote:

The_Badger wrote:
Again; you seem to be completely missing the point here. We, England, have large participation in a wide variety of sports and we generally excel at them. We may not be the best at every single one, that's an incredibly difficult feat, but we can hold our heads up and say we provide world class participants to a range of popular global sports.

which is of course as opposed to germany and its ~1500 olympic medals?

plus as far as i can tell the "range of popular global sports" is limited to three sports that are popular in 4 countries

Yet another completely ignorant anti-English troll.