I agree with free_cat Cesc had good game. He made some dangerous pass but our finishing was crap.

Valkyrja wrote:I really wanted to say before the match that Levante are a tricky side. Still, a really bad performance. Messi looked like he didn't care, unlike the last 2 matches.

To me it seemed Messi tried playing a lot of different positions, at times as a CM, AM, his #9 role, etc this game. A lot of our threat seem to come through him as well. If anything his finishing even by his standards were poor, but also credit to Navas for his saves in this game.

Harmonica wrote:Xavi should not be played against though opposition anymore, he's a caricature of him old self. Fabregas needs at least a game rest before though opposition, looked like a zombie tonight. Pedro and Sanchez are useless without collective edge as always.

Xavi was clearly best Midfielder tonight. You can't complain, none of our Midfielder was defending Busquet was crap, Xavi at 34 was defending creating, he was yelling to even Montoya. Working harder than anyone.

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:Xavi should not be played against though opposition anymore, he's a caricature of him old self. Fabregas needs at least a game rest before though opposition, looked like a zombie tonight. Pedro and Sanchez are useless without collective edge as always.

Xavi was clearly best Midfielder tonight. You can't complain, none of our Midfielder was defending Busquet was crap, Xavi at 34 was defending creating everything. Working harder than anyone.

Don't make me laugh, Xavi was horrible, not only that, he once tried a through ball, and Levante scored from it. He's too conservative, he's too slow. Nobody cares if you are 34, or if you try, teams don't win because players are 34, or they try. Pedro and Sanchez tried also, slipped every where and hardly did anything productive.

Whoscored the site that takes hundreds of stats into account, your football gospel, says xavi was the best Barcelona player outside defence   

Montoya doesn't deserve to play for us, honestly i am fine with him leaving.
none of our midfielder impressed at all. none so lets stop to even try and rank them.

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:Xavi should not be played against though opposition anymore, he's a caricature of him old self. Fabregas needs at least a game rest before though opposition, looked like a zombie tonight. Pedro and Sanchez are useless without collective edge as always.

Xavi was clearly best Midfielder tonight. You can't complain, none of our Midfielder was defending Busquet was crap, Xavi at 34 was defending creating everything. Working harder than anyone.

Don't make me laugh, Xavi was horrible, not only that, he once tried a through ball, and Levante scored from it. He's too conservative, he's too slow. Nobody cares if you are 34, or if you try, teams don't win because players are 34, or they try. Pedro and Sanchez tried also, slipped every where and hardly did anything productive.

Fabregas is slow too. Doesn't defend, he cant even make a tackle, its always foul. He makes some risky pass.that's it.

Whenever he plays Midfield against top side most of the time its failure.Although tonight he was not that bad.
He only does something when he plays as a false 9 against lower side.

DuringTheWar wrote:Whoscored the site that takes hundreds of stats into account, your football gospel, says xavi was the best Barcelona player outside defence   

Because of the corner he gave, and they don't count the failed attack which resulted a goal.

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Xavi was clearly best Midfielder tonight. You can't complain, none of our Midfielder was defending Busquet was crap, Xavi at 34 was defending creating everything. Working harder than anyone.

Don't make me laugh, Xavi was horrible, not only that, he once tried a through ball, and Levante scored from it. He's too conservative, he's too slow. Nobody cares if you are 34, or if you try, teams don't win because players are 34, or they try. Pedro and Sanchez tried also, slipped every where and hardly did anything productive.

Fabregas is slow too. Doesn't defend, he cant even make a tackle, its always foul. He makes some risky pass.that's it.

Whenever he plays Midfield against top side most of the time its failure.Although tonight he was not that bad.
He only does something when he plays as a false 9 against lower side.

So what's your point? They were both awful.

DuringTheWar wrote:Whoscored the site that takes hundreds of stats into account, your football gospel, says xavi was the best Barcelona player outside defence   

He was probably watching some other match.

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:
Don't make me laugh, Xavi was horrible, not only that, he once tried a through ball, and Levante scored from it. He's too conservative, he's too slow. Nobody cares if you are 34, or if you try, teams don't win because players are 34, or they try. Pedro and Sanchez tried also, slipped every where and hardly did anything productive.

Fabregas is slow too. Doesn't defend, he cant even make a tackle, its always foul. He makes some risky pass.that's it.

Whenever he plays Midfield against top side most of the time its failure.Although tonight he was not that bad.
He only does something when he plays as a false 9 against lower side.

So what's your point? They were both awful.

I am trying to say, You can't always blame xavi, dude is 34 and at least is as good as fabregas, where Fabregas is 26 and supposed to be in his prime.But no you came here and telling us like xavi was worst player on the pitch.

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Fabregas is slow too. Doesn't defend, he cant even make a tackle, its always foul. He makes some risky pass.that's it.

Whenever he plays Midfield against top side most of the time its failure.Although tonight he was not that bad.
He only does something when he plays as a false 9 against lower side.

So what's your point? They were both awful.

I am trying to say, You cannot always blame xavi, dude is 34 and at least is as good as fabregas, where Fabregas is 26 and supposed to be in his prme.But no you came here and telling us like xavi was worst player on the pitch.

Yes I can, when ever the performance warrants it. Nobody cares how old the player is, what he looks like, what he had breakfast or anything other absolutely ludicrous like that.

Again, what's your point? They were both awful.

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:
So what's your point? They were both awful.

I am trying to say, You cannot always blame xavi, dude is 34 and at least is as good as fabregas, where Fabregas is 26 and supposed to be in his prme.But no you came here and telling us like xavi was worst player on the pitch.

Yes I can, when ever the performance warrants it. Nobody cares how old the player is, what he looks like, what he had breakfast or anything other absolutely ludicrous like that.

Again, what your point? They were both awful.

At least Xavi work harder than Fabregas. Yes both are bad. But you should put more blame on Fabregas,
who is younger and in his prime.But you are doing reverse.

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:Xavi should not be played against though opposition anymore, he's a caricature of him old self. Fabregas needs at least a game rest before though opposition, looked like a zombie tonight. Pedro and Sanchez are useless without collective edge as always.

Xavi was clearly best Midfielder tonight. You can't complain, none of our Midfielder was defending Busquet was crap, Xavi at 34 was defending creating everything. Working harder than anyone.

Don't make me laugh, Xavi was horrible, not only that, he once tried a through ball, and Levante scored from it. He's too conservative, he's too slow. Nobody cares if you are 34, or if you try, teams don't win because players are 34, or they try. Pedro and Sanchez tried also, slipped every where and hardly did anything productive.

It's the second time you mention Pedro as an example of being bad tonight and at the same level than Alexis. are you insane or you didn't watch the game? Pedro was notable.

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

I am trying to say, You cannot always blame xavi, dude is 34 and at least is as good as fabregas, where Fabregas is 26 and supposed to be in his prme.But no you came here and telling us like xavi was worst player on the pitch.

Yes I can, when ever the performance warrants it. Nobody cares how old the player is, what he looks like, what he had breakfast or anything other absolutely ludicrous like that.

Again, what your point? They were both awful.

At least Xavi work harder than Fabregas. Yes both are bad. But you should put more blame on Fabregas, who is younger and
in his prime.But you are doing reverse.

Well feck me, that's the thing we can be happy about, right?

No matter that we drawed, at least our 34 year old capelmeister worked harder than Fabregas.

free_cat wrote:

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Xavi was clearly best Midfielder tonight. You can't complain, none of our Midfielder was defending Busquet was crap, Xavi at 34 was defending creating everything. Working harder than anyone.

Don't make me laugh, Xavi was horrible, not only that, he once tried a through ball, and Levante scored from it. He's too conservative, he's too slow. Nobody cares if you are 34, or if you try, teams don't win because players are 34, or they try. Pedro and Sanchez tried also, slipped every where and hardly did anything productive.

It's the second time you mention Pedro as an example of being bad tonight and at the same level than Alexis. are you insane or you didn't watch the game?  Pedro was notable.

Notable, the new Barca standard. Oh what has the team become.   

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:
Yes I can, when ever the performance warrants it. Nobody cares how old the player is, what he looks like, what he had breakfast or anything other absolutely ludicrous like that.

Again, what your point? They were both awful.

At least Xavi work harder than Fabregas. Yes both are bad. But you should put more blame on Fabregas, who is younger and
in his prime.But you are doing reverse.

Well feck me, that's the thing we can be happy about, right?

No matter that we drawed, at least our 34 year old capelmeister worked harder than Fabregas.

Dude are you insane or what, Why you hate xavi so much and talking crap about him, where Fabregas is even worse. you
should talk about Fabregas first.  .Unbelievable.

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

At least Xavi work harder than Fabregas. Yes both are bad. But you should put more blame on Fabregas, who is younger and
in his prime.But you are doing reverse.

Well feck me, that's the thing we can be happy about, right?

No matter that we drawed, at least our 34 year old capelmeister worked harder than Fabregas.

Dude are you insane or what, Why you hate xavi so much and talking crap about him, where Fabregas is even worse. you
should talk about Fabregas first.  .Unbelievable.

Again, what the hell, who the hell cares if Fabregas was worse? They were both awful. What kind of dunderhead are you?

Also tell me single thing of crap I said about Xavi in this thread?

well.. it's the 75h minute in Atletico Madrid vs Sevilla game, if it stays like this we are still on top of the league.

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:
Well feck me, that's the thing we can be happy about, right?

No matter that we drawed, at least our 34 year old capelmeister worked harder than Fabregas.

Dude are you insane or what, Why you hate xavi so much and talking crap about him, where Fabregas is even worse. you
should talk about Fabregas first.  .Unbelievable.

Again, what the hell, who the hell cares if Fabregas was worse? They were both awful. What kind of dunderhead are you?

Also tell me single thing of crap I said about Xavi in this thread?

From your Previous history you don't like Xavi and try to make Fabregas something which he is not.It's not only in this thread.Example: first here you came and talking about Xavi's bad performance. You are a controversial guy always try to argue.Anyway i am out.have a good night.

Beautiful Football wrote:

Harmonica wrote:

Beautiful Football wrote:

Dude are you insane or what, Why you hate xavi so much and talking crap about him, where Fabregas is even worse. you
should talk about Fabregas first.  .Unbelievable.

Again, what the hell, who the hell cares if Fabregas was worse? They were both awful. What kind of dunderhead are you?

Also tell me single thing of crap I said about Xavi in this thread?

From your Previous history you don't like Xavi and try to make Fabregas something which he is not.It's not only in this thread.Example: first here you came and talking about Xavi's bad performance. You are a controversial guy always try to argue.Anyway i am out.have a good night.

And which history is that? Please provide a quote. And what the hell kind of weird example is that? With that kind of confusion you should definitely leave.

Atletico Madrid 1-1 we are still on top of the league.

1 point seperates the top three from reaching the top now.

Sevilla

Messi comes back, Barca draw consecutive games in La Liga. Should have stayed in Argentina a bit longer, fss.

or who knows maybe if we rested our first teamers they'd do better against teams that matter.

Our movement off the ball was putrid at times. Most of the game in fact, minus the last 10-15 minutes.

Alexis and Pedro didnt come inside and allow the fullbacks to overlap. They stood there and watched if they couldnt get the ball in behind on a more direct move.

No runs from deep from Cesc, which is very costly because he is incapable of dribbling anybody. Messi doesnt move anywhere, even in a 2m he wont sprint towards the ball making himself an easier midfield target.

Missed Neymar and as already mentioned, missed another midfielder.

All that being said, still had chances to win the game which were not taken. Their goalie had a very good game in fairness.