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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:39 pm

Bad move Bayern

PSG will get mad and buy Germany in retaliation.


Mirko will not be loaned out, there is literally no upside for us loaning out Vucinic.

He comes back 6 months/1 year older, we have no money to show for it and we weaken our bench.

Would be stupid.

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Post by Onyx Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:39 pm

New AC Milan manager Seedorf's first signing could be Maher, according to reports in Italy. However it could be hard to sign him since he only joined PSV 6 months ago.

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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:57 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Mirko will not be loaned out, there is literally no upside for us loaning out Vucinic.

He comes back 6 months/1 year older, we have no money to show for it and we weaken our bench.

Would be stupid.

Join the club Proud

That said it could raise his price if he does well and you can sell him off to some turkish club or something who are willing to splash the cash on scrubs anyways

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Post by S Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:02 pm

Amazes me these EPL clubs,unlike Italian clubs are stacked with money ,yet they resort to making cheap loan offers.If you want the player,just pay up or GTFO.We're not a charity organization.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:10 pm

True Hala, although even Gala were cheap as f*ck when dealing with us over Melo

Our best chance of getting real cash for him is either now or in the Summer, loaning him out would be madness

I say if he's 32 and still here, we might aswell just keep him around.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:11 pm

Its because of the PL's FFP rules.... there's now a wage cap of what clubs can add each year....

The new Premier League rules state each team over the next three seasons will not be allowed to make a total loss of more than £105m.

In the same period, clubs whose total wage bill is more than £52m will only be allowed to increase their salaries by an accumulative £4m per season

That's why you see a lot of loans.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:14 pm

Surely the wage cap still applies to loan deals?
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Post by S Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:16 pm

Why should it matter to a club like Arsenal ? Arent they supposed to be running on profits ?

And what has a wage increase got to do with a loan offer ?

EDIT : And as Tom said wage cap should still apply to loan deals no ?


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:17 pm

Yeah i know but there's a loop hole there....

it says over the year, by the time you have to show your results to the PL those loan wages will be off your books.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:17 pm

Ah well, still. This is a move that benefits Arsenal and has absolutely no benefit to us.

If we pull the trigger on this, we're idiots.
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Post by Jay29 Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:18 pm

Why are you treating this as if it's some sort of crime against Juventus?

In any case, we want a short term option, therefore we're going to be looking primarily at loans. You may think there's no advantages of loaning him out, but what you would get is a player off your wage bill for the remainder of the season while the player in question plays more and could generate more interest from potential buyers (unless he's only got six months left on his current deal or something).

Also, just because we have money doesn't mean we should be spending it on short-term options like Vucinic, especially when we're going to be looking at bigger targets in the summer.


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Post by S Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:19 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yeah i know but there's a loop hole there....

it says over the year, by the time you have to show your results to the PL those loan wages will be off your books.

Oh ok then.In any case a loan deal for Vucinic isnt happening.
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Post by Onyx Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:20 pm

Arsenal, Barcelona and Manchester United interested in signing Athletic Bilbao defender Laporte at the end of the season, according to AS.

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Post by Onyx Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:21 pm

Chelsea no longer interested in Guarin after signing Matic, however Manchester United are still interested, according to Corriere dello Sport.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:21 pm

The wage argument is pointless.

We'd make more money selling him for 3M than we'd get from 6 months of his wages, unless he somehow lights up the Prem in a short space of time then there is no benefit. At his age, his value will drop continually. That's all there is to it really.
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Post by S Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:21 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:Also, just because we have money doesn't mean we should be spending it on short-term options like Vucinic, especially when we're going to be looking at bigger targets in the summer.

Then you might as well go find another target.

We're ok with keeping him anyways unless Arsenal or some other club approaches Juventus with a decent offer.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:22 pm

Is Laporte actually legit? Arq raves about him but i'd like a 2nd opinion Laughing

No disrespect Arq, much love Smile
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Post by Onyx Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:25 pm

Bologna want to sign Gilardino from Genoa, according to Corriere dello Sport.

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Post by Onyx Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:27 pm

Hamburg reject loan offer with an option to buy permanently from Juventus for defender Kempf, according to Kicker.

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Bayer Leverkusen make enquiry to sign Hamburg defender Jansen, according to Bild.

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Post by RealGunner Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:30 pm

S wrote:
GoonerJay29 wrote:Also, just because we have money doesn't mean we should be spending it on short-term options like Vucinic, especially when we're going to be looking at bigger targets in the summer.

Then you might as well go find another target.

We're ok with keeping him anyways unless Arsenal or some other club approaches Juventus with a decent offer.

Vucinic isn't our only target. He is one of the several. If there is no loan option then obviously we won't waste our time and try for someone else.



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Post by sportsczy Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:02 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Is Laporte actually legit? Arq raves about him but i'd like a 2nd opinion Laughing

No disrespect Arq, much love Smile
 well, he's 19 and this is his second year of being an undisputed starting CB for Bilbao.

Also, he was by far the best player (with Rabiot) of the France U19 NT that went to the Euro final this past summer.

He's also now a starter for the U23 France NT team (Zouma/Umtiti but one of them has always been out).

Voted into the starting XI of best U21 La Liga team for last season (paired with Varane at CB).

Those are his credentials.

As far as play, he's like Pique.  That's his style and he has the same physique too.  He's an anticipation/tactical type CB with good technique.  He's not the super athletic type, but he's fast enough.  Great prospect.  If you're expecting a finished product, then he's not it.  But if you want an already very good player with a ton of upside and a lot of top league experience despite his age, then he's it.

If Bilbao want his release clause, i'd wait until the end of the year to see how he ends the season.  One good season is not enough for me... need to see if he can do it again and shows progress.  So far he has.  But the key months of the season are coming up.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:10 pm

Cheers Sports, sounds very promising.

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Post by Onyx Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:13 pm

Valencia could make an offer for Napoli's Vargas, according to Biobio Chile.

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Montpellier's Cabella is Newcastle's primary target, according to Eurosport.

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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:52 pm

Juventus director Beppe: "“I believe Morata is unreachable, but we have never spoken with RM. He's a player that will become a champion."

Juve you just gained a fan Proud
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:52 pm

After buying de Bruyne , Wolfsburg are planning to bring back Edin Dezeko according to WELT

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Post by S Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:57 pm

Jorginho set for a medical at Napoli tomorrow-Di Marzio
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