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Re: 171000 wiretaps :coffee:
sciacca wrote:These were brought out from Moggi's lawyers in which they claimed was all Inter and what the FIGC and the courts in Naples documentations means it's true. I'm not claiming they can all be Inter's however, whatever the case may be, majoirty is theirs if allegations prove to be so. In any case, not all of them are obviously Facchetti's, however it involves other like Bergamo and etc... with Moratti contacting them of course. Even Telecom representatives, were arrested through these scandals. The proceedings don't lie. My saying it may sound retarted, but those statements come from the FIGC, not me.
So Moggi's lawyers went to court saying Facchetti called Bergamo & Pairetto 437 times a day Or you just got owned by CroInter
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Re: 171000 wiretaps :coffee:
Lawyer Maurilio Prioreschi, you defend Luciano Moggi in the Calciopoli trials in Napoli: Why have you only recently found the telephone calls between Bergamo, Moratti, and Facchetti?
«It’s a question I’ve asked myself, together with another: Why were they not transcribed? Why were they hidden? It’s curious.».
How did you come about finding them?
«It Consist of 171,000 wiretaps. We checked Bergamo’s usage, the relative traffic arriving and outgoing, hence the discovery. But this isn’t really a discovery, but a confirmation. At the time, to call the referee designator was lawful, and everyone did it. I repeat: Everyone.».
The difference is in the contents however, don’t you think?
«I don’t exclude that that they are totally innocent, the recordings that were made of Moggi and Bergamo, respective to those that we believe we’ve found».
Even those of Moratti and Facchetti, then?
«Yes, also from other Inter directors».
Moratti has suggested that it wasn’t he who made the call, but the referee designators.
Moratti ha sostenuto che non era lui a chiamare, ma loro (i designatori).
«That changes little, I would say.».
One of the most “endearing” was Cagliari’s president, Cellino.
«Exactly».
Galliani?
«There are discussions between him and Pairetto, the other referee designator.».
Between Gallani and Bergamo?
«Didn’t appear. The references of the then League President (Gallani) were with Pairetto.».
Can one listen to the conversations?
«In principle, yes, and some we have already listened to. They are interesting….the contents will be divulged ind ue time. Perhaps at the next hearing on April 13th.».
Why “in principle?”
«Because some of them we have not been able to open.».
In summary?
«They [the referee designators] spoke on the phone with everyone, but for Moggi, the connection became a morbid fascination for others, it was a distraction or maybe a priveleged connection. I repeat: In the 2004-2005 season, you could have called Bergamo and Pairetto. It remains a mystery why the discussions between Bergamo, Moratti, and Facchetti were not taken into consideration by Auricchio.».
As to not have aroused suspension, perhaps.
«The clarity and completeness, in these cases, would have contributed a lot at the start to have removed slander and the “dark shadows.” Inter received a Scudetto from Juventus from this “diversity” of evidence.».
“Something will be missed,” rationalized the prosecuter Narducci.
«Only something?».
Owned?
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VibeTribe wrote:Banned?
All that crying on Milan board over Giancarlo ban(who sent insulting pm's to mods and made a double account),what should we do?We demand a 3 day thread to discuss Delaurentis ban like Milan board got
And LOL at mods deleting my "Inb4 a mod says innuendos are a bannable offence" post...Guess I nailed it.
It was funny. We were told to PM mods if we see any fans in other sections making derogatory posts about Inter after delaurentis made the "Juve is a Serie B team" post. So I did just that. And then I got threatened that I don't want to test them because it isn't a good thing to do.
And the threads that insult Inter are NEVER locked, yet we get a thread locked for calling Juve a Serie B team. LOL. We really need an Inter supporter as a mod on these forums. It's hilarious that each of the other Serie A teams are represented by a moderator/admin, yet Inter gets nothing except shafted. Over and over.
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Re: 171000 wiretaps :coffee:
If anyone is able to make sciacca think logically, he can chose my avatar and i will forever use it!
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Re: 171000 wiretaps :coffee:
InterMalia wrote:If anyone is able to make sciacca think logically, he can chose my avatar and i will forever use it!
No Thanks, I just look at actually documents, in which has been released by all parties of the trials. Only 25 wiretapes were used for Juventus.
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dansik wrote:VibeTribe wrote:Banned?
All that crying on Milan board over Giancarlo ban(who sent insulting pm's to mods and made a double account),what should we do?We demand a 3 day thread to discuss Delaurentis ban like Milan board got
And LOL at mods deleting my "Inb4 a mod says innuendos are a bannable offence" post...Guess I nailed it.
It was funny. We were told to PM mods if we see any fans in other sections making derogatory posts about Inter after delaurentis made the "Juve is a Serie B team" post. So I did just that. And then I got threatened that I don't want to test them because it isn't a good thing to do.
And the threads that insult Inter are NEVER locked, yet we get a thread locked for calling Juve a Serie B team. LOL. We really need an Inter supporter as a mod on these forums. It's hilarious that each of the other Serie A teams are represented by a moderator/admin, yet Inter gets nothing except shafted. Over and over.
For a moment i thought the romans where more than us but they are not. Yet they have a mod, even though a classy mod i must add. I wish super mod could've listened to Moey when he volunteered.
I remember realgunner telling him he'd get back to him but i don't know how it ended.
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Re: 171000 wiretaps :coffee:
sciacca wrote:InterMalia wrote:If anyone is able to make sciacca think logically, he can chose my avatar and i will forever use it!
No Thanks, I just look at actually documents, in which has been released by all parties of the trials. Only 25 wiretapes were used for Juventus.
For the love of god where is this magical documents only you can see? Is it in Lalaland?
Other than a criminals lawyer lol
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InterMalia wrote:sciacca wrote:InterMalia wrote:If anyone is able to make sciacca think logically, he can chose my avatar and i will forever use it!
No Thanks, I just look at actually documents, in which has been released by all parties of the trials. Only 25 wiretapes were used for Juventus.
For the love of god where is this magical documents only you can see? Is it in Lalaland?
It shows you don't watch SKY or don't follow La Reppublica or La Stampa who have already shown these in articles, videos and documents. It's not my fault.
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sciacca wrote:Lawyer Maurilio Prioreschi, you defend Luciano Moggi in the Calciopoli trials in Napoli: Why have you only recently found the telephone calls between Bergamo, Moratti, and Facchetti?
«It’s a question I’ve asked myself, together with another: Why were they not transcribed? Why were they hidden? It’s curious.».
How did you come about finding them?
«It Consist of 171,000 wiretaps. We checked Bergamo’s usage, the relative traffic arriving and outgoing, hence the discovery. But this isn’t really a discovery, but a confirmation. At the time, to call the referee designator was lawful, and everyone did it. I repeat: Everyone.».
The difference is in the contents however, don’t you think?
«I don’t exclude that that they are totally innocent, the recordings that were made of Moggi and Bergamo, respective to those that we believe we’ve found».
Even those of Moratti and Facchetti, then?
«Yes, also from other Inter directors».
Moratti has suggested that it wasn’t he who made the call, but the referee designators.
Moratti ha sostenuto che non era lui a chiamare, ma loro (i designatori).
«That changes little, I would say.».
One of the most “endearing” was Cagliari’s president, Cellino.
«Exactly».
Galliani?
«There are discussions between him and Pairetto, the other referee designator.».
Between Gallani and Bergamo?
«Didn’t appear. The references of the then League President (Gallani) were with Pairetto.».
Can one listen to the conversations?
«In principle, yes, and some we have already listened to. They are interesting….the contents will be divulged ind ue time. Perhaps at the next hearing on April 13th.».
Why “in principle?”
«Because some of them we have not been able to open.».
In summary?
«They [the referee designators] spoke on the phone with everyone, but for Moggi, the connection became a morbid fascination for others, it was a distraction or maybe a priveleged connection. I repeat: In the 2004-2005 season, you could have called Bergamo and Pairetto. It remains a mystery why the discussions between Bergamo, Moratti, and Facchetti were not taken into consideration by Auricchio.».
As to not have aroused suspension, perhaps.
«The clarity and completeness, in these cases, would have contributed a lot at the start to have removed slander and the “dark shadows.” Inter received a Scudetto from Juventus from this “diversity” of evidence.».
“Something will be missed,” rationalized the prosecuter Narducci.
«Only something?».
Owned?
Point of this?
Here it says they have 171k of wiretaps for "everyone"
sciacca wrote:InterMalia wrote:If anyone is able to make sciacca think logically, he can chose my avatar and i will forever use it!
No Thanks, I just look at actually documents, in which has been released by all parties of the trials. Only 25 wiretapes were used for Juventus.
Ok can you show us where FICG says they have 171k of wiretaps for Inter and only 25 for Juve.
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And Sciacca whats the point of that childish pic?
We are having serious conversations in here
We are having serious conversations in here
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Re: 171000 wiretaps :coffee:
sciacca wrote:These were brought out from Moggi's lawyers in which they claimed was all Inter and what the FIGC and the courts in Naples documentations means it's true. I'm not claiming they can all be Inter's however, whatever the case may be, majoirty is theirs if allegations prove to be so. In any case, not all of them are obviously Facchetti's, however it involves other like Bergamo and etc... with Moratti contacting them of course. Even Telecom representatives, were arrested through these scandals. The proceedings don't lie. My saying it may sound retarted, but those statements come from the FIGC, not me.
I followed you till here.
Plz Sciacca i urge you to use your brain, how is it possible that during one season Fachetti or Inter in general had 468 phone calls to ref designators per day.
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Watching the news or reading a journal doesn't tell me shit. What tells me shit is when someone gets convicted for a crime such as your former directors.
If you think posting random pictures is provoking LOL, pls continue.
Btw. have you ever thought about why juve have been shit since they came back from B? Could be the steroids dealers are in jail....
If you think posting random pictures is provoking LOL, pls continue.
Btw. have you ever thought about why juve have been shit since they came back from B? Could be the steroids dealers are in jail....
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1st it was story how Inter and Moratti made it all, but now tapes of Inter are out so it makes no sense that Moratti orders that his own club to me wiretaped.
Now its story that Inter infulenced refs, and from that time all i can remember is Moratti and Inter bitching about refs fking them all the time, while at the same time this was regular news in Italy:
Name of the ref 2:1 Roma
Not to mention biggest public theft by refs in history of the game that decided the title winner. And ofc Juve gets a penalty 15 sec later
Now its story that Inter infulenced refs, and from that time all i can remember is Moratti and Inter bitching about refs fking them all the time, while at the same time this was regular news in Italy:
Name of the ref 2:1 Roma
Not to mention biggest public theft by refs in history of the game that decided the title winner. And ofc Juve gets a penalty 15 sec later
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Re: 171000 wiretaps :coffee:
Giancarlo lite isn't showing up...
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I dont know Italian but ill trust you on it, they are saying there that there are 171k of wiretaps on Inter and 25 for Juve for Calciopoli?
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CroInter wrote:I dont know Italian but ill trust you on it, they are saying there that there are 171k of wiretaps on Inter and 25 for Juve for Calciopoli?
It does not mention Juve at all here it's claiming all the allegations on Inter. This in fact all began here.
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You are going off topic Sciacca, lo stile Milanistas
We are talking about as title says about those magical 171k of wiretaps of Fachetti calling 400+ times per day ref designators....
And great soureces you have there like tuttojuve or tifosi bianconeri, i dont know who is more reliable and unbiased
You said "Confirm everything you just said please, the trials and documents sound out by Lega Calcio and FIGC don't lie. "
We are all still waiting for those documents where it says
"INTER = 171,000 WIRETAPES
JUVE = 25 "
We are talking about as title says about those magical 171k of wiretaps of Fachetti calling 400+ times per day ref designators....
And great soureces you have there like tuttojuve or tifosi bianconeri, i dont know who is more reliable and unbiased
You said "Confirm everything you just said please, the trials and documents sound out by Lega Calcio and FIGC don't lie. "
We are all still waiting for those documents where it says
"INTER = 171,000 WIRETAPES
JUVE = 25 "
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Re: 171000 wiretaps :coffee:
Those 'TifosiBianconeri' videos are actually recordings from Sky Sports...
The TuttoJuve one was just showing another press release from what suppost to happen in courts. That was just an additional article.
As for the documents those were published in La Stampa and La Reppublia and others were shown in Sky Sports Segemtns. It's not my fault you don't have the channel.
The TuttoJuve one was just showing another press release from what suppost to happen in courts. That was just an additional article.
As for the documents those were published in La Stampa and La Reppublia and others were shown in Sky Sports Segemtns. It's not my fault you don't have the channel.
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sciacca wrote:Those 'TifosiBianconeri' videos are actually recordings from Sky Sports...
The TuttoJuve one was just showing another press release from what suppost to happen in courts. That was just an additional article.
As for the documents those were published in La Stampa and La Reppublia and others were shown in Sky Sports Segemtns. It's not my fault you don't have the channel.
Anyways, you are still saying Inter:171,000 wirepats, Juve: 25 wiretaps(the ones they got on Italian sim card?)
And you are saying they "published" a document where it said that they have 171000 wiretapas of Inter for one year?
And we are all yet to see those documents they published, i guess we are just gonna take your word on it?
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So basically your defense is: "Its not my fault that you cant find it for yourself"
Despite the fact that the burden of proof falls on the one making the claims...
Thats a bold strategy there, Cotton.
Despite the fact that the burden of proof falls on the one making the claims...
Thats a bold strategy there, Cotton.
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InterMalia wrote:If anyone is able to make sciacca think logically, he can chose my avatar and i will forever use it!
Waiting........
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InterMalia wrote:He made a comment on FIF about him getting banned from here. So yeah, he got banned.
I got banned for ridiculing a conspiracy.. But since most of Jube's fans are on their periods , they cry over nothing.
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