The probable formation I saw on TV was

-------------------------Abbiati
Abate-------Zapata------------Mexes-------Constant

-------------------------De Jong
-------------Montolivo----------Muntari

-----------Birsa---------------------------Robinho
--------------------------Balo

Are we going back to 4-3-3?

If we go 4-3-3. Our version of 4-3-3 against Ajax's 4-3-3 , should be good. In any case , if Abate and Constant have a good night , i am not worried about the formation the team will play , because the difference in 4-3-1-2 and 4-3-3 isn't big , it mainly depends on the players and i think Birsa could utilise the right wing better than the role of 10. Much easier actuallly. Anyhow.

Ajax play a very open game , they leave gaps often but they usualy are dangerous with the ball. Both Milan and Ajax have problems at the back and i expect both teams to have plenty of chances to score in both halfs.
But we have the advantage and he is called Mario Balotelli


Here's hoping the injuries stop , it's all i care these days. Unbelievable Ses got injured again , i feel so sad for him . He will be out until near the end of October i think , damn.. That particular injury was rather unfortunate to say the least , not to mention when he finaly got over his previous injury. Can't wait for his return , we need El Shaarawy badly.

What does robinho offer that Birsa can't offer?

being honest, Ajax robbed.. allegri s..t manager! yet another day he gets lucky..

let me rephrase it, Ajax Robbed!!!

Actually, the switch of tactics that Allegri made was nothing short of brilliant. I don't blame him at all for this game, it was our defenders this time. Allegri is onto something and I am very glad, the team is playing amazing despite not being complete.

The fact that we just sat back in the 1st half doing jack all while Ajax worked their stuff says it all, negative tactics from a negative manager. Always afraid of playing away from home.

Second half was slightly better, then again they scored from a set piece for the-...i've honestly lost count, how has this not been addressed yet?

The only thing saving this guy's ass is the last minute goals and fever endings to matches

So far, I am seeing improvements from Allegri and this is very impressive. Allegri already has a good connection with our players, and we are playing great football (2nd half), the only thing that he needs to do now is iron out his faults.

Because of the improvements Allegri is making, I have restored my faith in him. It is now the job of our management to support Allegri.

JespSwe wrote:being honest, Ajax robbed.. allegri s..t manager! yet another day he gets lucky..

let me rephrase it, Ajax Robbed!!!

You are such a great unbiased fan.Should pass some of that wisdom and honesty to your fellow Milan friends.

#Justice4Ajax

I love the way we are getting through teams although we are playing shit....its gonna be good if we can keep that up because its the mentality of a winning team.

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JespSwe wrote:being honest, Ajax robbed.. allegri s..t manager! yet another day he gets lucky..

let me rephrase it, Ajax Robbed!!!

You are such a great unbiased fan.Should pass some of that wisdom and honesty to your fellow Milan friends.

Again, you didn't see the match so a comment is invalid.

I repeat:

"Offside goal against Milan that was WRONG disallowed.
Handball that was clear.
Robinho tripped in the box.
Goalline clearance that shouldn't have been stopped.":

But jespswe saw it ?

He is one of the best and most unbiased posters around these parts so automatically i will hold his opinion in high regard.

Jesp is a fantastic poster yet sometimes will resort to certain posts to have Allegri look worse than what he has been or that his passion has him omit some other facets of the game, at times.

If we weren't given such injustice by the officiates in the game, then Ajax would indeed be robbed.

Though they didn't do much to deserve game considering they walked into a 4-5-1 meant to allow them possession (relying on individual brilliance) and were pushed back in the 2nd half after our changed 4-3-3 took the game to them.

Apparently Birsa suffered a slight injury during warm up

Surag , pls buddy. If it's true and you didn't see the game and you just agree with Jesp who says Ajax got robbed , what does that make you? Simply biased against Milan. So why don't you first take some of Jesps' "unbiased wisdom" and kindly shut the fk up about what the rest of Milan fans should do

Just for your info , Jesp is great no doubt , but he's seriously biased against Allegri. Since his first game , every single time we have lost , he blames it on Allegri . From every single point of view that exists , this is just impossible to be correct or even close to the truth

From what i saw of the game , Milan willingfully sat back and took attack after attack in the 1st half , it was not because of Ajax's superiority . We played with caution and allowed them to play their game at home and they failed. Put it simply , it was a nice defensive test that we saw through , if i want to be optimistic about it. In any case , being the right choice or not , that was the plan all along , object was not to concede in the first half and go full for it in the 2nd half. And we did have a great 2nd half for all Ajax had to say on the field , despite Balotelli's penalty being non-existent .. Despite all that , we had our fair share of misfortune like Arquitecto said , but anyway , didn't happen , move on.

Birsa had some problems during warming up , that's why Allegri kept him out and didn't want to risk him . We could do better tonight, but like Nichabr said and i totally agree , i admire the mentality we've been showing and i am really satisfied by the attitude the players have shown . Form will inevitably improve and we should be back on track with a bang , i believe.

All in all , Ajax had a good first half , we had a better 2nd one and the game ended 1-1 , fair enough , for all the 'controversy' involved . Obviously i would take the win any day , but given our injury issues atm and the bad start we had to deal with , the fact we almost always take a point or three when we don't convince(or in patches) , is comforting news , mainly because for what the season has in store for Milan.

Arquitescu wrote:Jesp is a fantastic poster yet sometimes will resort to certain posts to have Allegri look worse than what he has been or that his passion has him omit some other facets of the game, at times.

If we weren't given such injustice by the officiates in the game, then Ajax would indeed be robbed.

Though they didn't do much to deserve game considering they walked into a 4-5-1 meant to allow them possession (relying on individual brilliance) and were pushed back in the 2nd half after our changed 4-3-3 took the game to them.

Arq. you can say i am a sh..t poster, and a pain.. in the a.. or have been when it comes to allegri i would rather gladly admit that than saying I have posted something to make allegri look like he is terrible. I like being straight honest than biased, and there was nothing I saw today or has been for last few games that has made me feel that you know Milan despite their difficulties with injuries has been doing their best they can to yield justified results. Ajax had more possession, more threat, more chances than we did. and yet again defense was rubbish, mexes and zapata yet again very shaky, the buildup play from defense, midfield all the way to forward was clueless. although as a team, they did track back to help the defense was the only positive part of game. And it was not as if Milan had deprived squad, it was decent enough to get a good result.

and yet again it took a penalty, that was really undeserved and balotelli just fell on his knees to get that unfair call in favor of us.

and its this kind of excuse, and taking satisfaction with this kind of display is what makes our squad weak, what makes or manager and his mentality weak.

you know what allegri said, oh we will be back on track during the winter break when our players will hopefully be fit.. wtf... is that. as a manager you can't just wait for somthing to happen. he says ok we will have injured players back then i have then idea to fix our problem!! then fix it now!! sometimes injuries are inevitable part of the game, great manager can always find solution from what he has got available.

oh please dont tell me that I have been resorting post to make it allegri look worse. thats just ridiculous. i dont even understand what do you mean by my passion making me miss certain facts. so you are suggesting that I am not paying attention to the game at all, and just writing this stuff based on just game highlights..? cmon man!

milan isn't playing good enough, allegri isn't doing good enough, its every now and then penalty, or jjsut last minute goals, and draws a slim marginal goals is saving us. milan can do so much better than that.

Dante wrote:Surag , pls buddy. If it's true and you didn't see the game and you just agree with Jesp who says Ajax got robbed , what does that make you? Simply biased against Milan. So why don't you first take some of Jesps' "unbiased wisdom" and kindly shut the fk up about what the rest of Milan fans should do

Just for your info , Jesp is great no doubt , but he's seriously biased against Allegri. Since his first game , every single time we have lost , he blames it on Allegri . From every single point of view that exists , this is just impossible to be correct or even close to the truth

this is b.s. if u and arq think i am seriously biased.. .

i am not ever ever going to post in milan forum ever again if you are blowing things out of proportion saying i have only been super biased on allegri. ! it was honest answer and guys think i am like what f.king making somrthing up??? thats downright rubbish. if you are not going to read positives i have written then i have wasted time here for nothing! i am always here for positive contribution, constructive criticism, and always hoping whats best for milan fans and for club i dearly love.


it was honest view, what did allegri do to make u guys proud, that i have numerous times appreciated. but i dont post negative stuffs.

when allegri has done well i have always put good remarks on him. i have always commended him. then i guess u haven't read any of it, and always see bad stuff written about him.

thanks , thanks i get it man! i have no problems with u guys anymore, i get it.

ajax badly got robbed, in defense its same mistake over and over again, for past few games ... last minute goals, penalty, in favour of us is always saving us. allegri has been piss poor not making any kind of amends.

well, i appreciate my fellow posters who understand the seriousness of situation going on with allegri and the club.

and I have always before crucifying allegri always DEFENDED over and over again saying, allegri has been deprived of injury, was deprived from mass exodus of stars, allegri has been deprived of inadequate recruit. i have always mentioned that before. i guess i understand now that some posters didn't read that and eyeball only the crucifying part.

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Calm down Jesp , nobody offended you or anything. I am pretty sure not me or Arq said you made stuff up about Allegri ; i am just saying you always critisize him harshly and blame him on too many fronts after each bad result. I never said you didn't give him credit when he doesn't make mistakes , or that you don't do that. Again , i am pretty sure both me and Arq have immense respect for you as a poster , even with our daily disagreement about Allegri , i never said a half a bad thing about you , it's just clear on this discussion we see it differently . No wrong in that , not sure why you took it like that.

I said you're biased against him and it's true , you cannot deny this nor you have to hide it either. We discuss here , it's only normal we will disagree at some point. Anyway , you re taking the bad results too seriously . Yes today Montolivo got back and we had Balotelli back as well , but the team as a collective has yet to progress and play matches with the main players all together.

I am pretty sure you know that counts a lot more than tactics used , the manager or ref decisions.

Dante wrote:Calm down Jesp , nobody offended you or anything. I am pretty sure not me or Arq said you made stuff up about Allegri ; i am just saying you always critisize him harshly and blame him on too many fronts after each bad result. I never said you didn't give him credit when he doesn't make mistakes , or that you don't do that. Again , i am pretty sure both me and Arq have immense respect for you as a poster , even with our daily disagreement about Allegri , i never said a half a bad thing about you , it's just clear on this discussion we see it differently . No wrong in that , not sure why you took it like that.

I said you're biased against him and it's true , you cannot deny this nor you have to hide it either. We discuss here , it's only normal we will disagree at some point. Anyway , you re taking the bad results too seriously . Yes today Montolivo got back and we had Balotelli back as well , but the team as a collective has yet to progress and play matches with the main players all together.

I am pretty sure you know that counts a lot more than tactics used , the manager or ref decisions.

now i have started to feel you only read my negative comments on allegri. its alright. thats fine. what i write positive is not visible to you. so i feel like i have been contributing poor here.

so its all good. yet again i have already said i have said plenty of positives about allegri and u again failed to read that. forget it bro! save your time then for something you feel important and fun to do than reading my biased post ^.^V no hard feelings.

2 games lost, 2 games drawn out of which torino was robbed thanks to referee, 2 games won even against cagliari milan was super vulnerable, if only they had finisher like Toni did to us. 10 goals conceded in 5 games ... and tonight the result i feel really bad for ajax more than us.. and so far allegri is pretty satisfied with the results and way things he has been working.i will take this string of performance very lightly.  

yeah might throw a celebration party for it .. why the hell not..

JespSwe wrote:ajax badly got robbed, in defense its same mistake over and over again, for past few games ... last minute goals, penalty, in favour of us is always saving us. allegri has been piss poor not making any kind of amends.

well, i appreciate my fellow posters who understand the seriousness of situation going on with allegri and the club.

and I have always before crucifying allegri always DEFENDED over and over again saying, allegri has been deprived of injury, was deprived from mass exodus of stars, allegri has been deprived of inadequate recruit. i have always mentioned that before. i guess i understand now that some posters didn't read that and eyeball only the crucifying part.

m(_ _)m

I won't talk about ref decisions and what they have to do with regards to Allegri . Let's talk about the things Allegri has a say on , agreed? ok.

You think Allegri hasn't discussed set pieces issues with the players ? You think they haven't practiced on that during trainings ? Don't you think if it was so easy to fix this , wouldn't the issue dissapear already ?

I think he has adressed this already and even from last season too , because we have the same issue for quite some time. The players we have are pretty much the same and the flaws and limits of our team , will always be more or less the same. Last season he dealt with those with more possesion and minimized the threat by setting the team this way to keep the ball more and thus avoid too many set pieces against us(i am simplifying it a lot) . It's no secret after Nesta-Silva set pieces became an issue for Milan , but anyway , let's keep it substantial.

The players have the problem with set pieces , not Allegri. There's also the management , who observes what's happening on training daily. If Allegri wasn't doing his job , they would know before we could even think of these things.

As for the offensive part of our performances , although i get he's not perfect , injuries have damaged Milan badly so far. I will judge Allegri properly when he has a full squad to choose and plan , not now when he actually doesn't have the option to choose what he wants in games , he rather adapts. We still take something from games , though understandably , it's not enough for many fans , not just you Jesp. I am just more pragmatic and satisfied with less , given how the team fares at the moment. Again , if i see he's failing with a full squad or loses control of the team , i will join you as well , i don't pray to Allegri each night

JespSwe wrote:

Dante wrote:Calm down Jesp , nobody offended you or anything. I am pretty sure not me or Arq said you made stuff up about Allegri ; i am just saying you always critisize him harshly and blame him on too many fronts after each bad result. I never said you didn't give him credit when he doesn't make mistakes , or that you don't do that. Again , i am pretty sure both me and Arq have immense respect for you as a poster , even with our daily disagreement about Allegri , i never said a half a bad thing about you , it's just clear on this discussion we see it differently . No wrong in that , not sure why you took it like that.

I said you're biased against him and it's true , you cannot deny this nor you have to hide it either. We discuss here , it's only normal we will disagree at some point. Anyway , you re taking the bad results too seriously . Yes today Montolivo got back and we had Balotelli back as well , but the team as a collective has yet to progress and play matches with the main players all together.

I am pretty sure you know that counts a lot more than tactics used , the manager or ref decisions.

now i have started to feel you only read my negative comments on allegri. its alright. thats fine. what i write positive is not visible to you. so i feel like i have been contributing poor here.

so its all good. yet again i have already said i have said plenty of positives about allegri and u again failed to read that. forget it bro! save your time then for something you feel important and fun to do than reading my biased post ^.^V no hard feelings.

No , i am pretty sure i always 100% read all of your posts , whatever you have to say , Allegri or not Allegri. It's just that the majority of your posts with regards to Allegri is mostly against him and the good stuff you say about him are much less in comparison.The general idea is obviously that you don't like him that much

Which , once gain , is totally fine. It's your opinion Jesp , no need to perplex stuff.