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Post by Donuts Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:59 pm

no just saying you can't compare based on CL stats when he hasn't played in it.
that's like saying Benzema is better then Falcao, who also hasn't played in the CL.

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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:02 pm

I'd rather have Benzema if I'm honest.

We'll get neither though so it's pointless. Need better sources.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:04 pm

I wasn't comparing like that i'm just saying..... Benzema has been doing it all levels his entire career apart from one season.

Plus he doesn't come with all the bullshit Suarez does.

If Suarez is worth 40-50m then Benzema certainly is.

Doubt there's a possibility of it happening anyway but IF.
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Post by Blue Barrett Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:06 pm

Suarez not looking to apologize to his team, apparently. hmm
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:06 pm

If Bale goes to Madrid, there's a good chance tbh. Maybe not now, but by the winter mercato. If Benz gets benched or enters rotation, he will ask to leave... he already did in fact but was convinced to stay last summer.

I don't see him being at Madrid if Bale is bought.
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Post by Onyx Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:07 pm

Hype seems to be ahead of goalscoring records recently when determining how much a player's value is.

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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:12 pm

If he really wants to be a starter I don't see why he would wait until January. Bale is going to start for sure, Ronaldo, Oezil, Isco too. I see mo place for him in the first team if Bale comes.
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Post by chad4401 Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:17 pm

some are really taking this dmzema thing seriously Laughing he is easily just as good as suarez while playing half the minutes and he has actually pwned some of the Cl elites even before he went to Madrid
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:20 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:If he really wants to be a starter I don't see why he would wait until January. Bale is going to start for sure, Ronaldo, Oezil, Isco too. I see mo place for him in the first team if Bale comes.
I don't think he'll force the transfer this summer. He'll fight for his spot and, if he loses out, he'll ask for a transfer. Benz thinks he's better than everyone... so i wouldn't put it past him to try and win out a spot.
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Post by Motogp69 Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:49 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Wenger wants to sign Gustavo for £14m, according to ESPN.
In this market, you better add £10m onto that number Wenger. Arsenal have just bumbled through this transfer window, not sure who has been worse: Arsenal or United?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:53 pm

Motogp69 wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Wenger wants to sign Gustavo for £14m, according to ESPN.
In this market, you better add £10m onto that number Wenger. Arsenal have just bumbled through this transfer window, not sure who has been worse: Arsenal or United?
Sky Sports News say Arsenal are in talks to sign Luiz Gustavo.

raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein 1h
To expand on Gustavo/Arsenal: feeling in Munich is that he's off but earlier this evening, Rummenigge said LG hadn't decided yet

raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein 1h
But it's only a question of him agreeing personal terms - valuation not an issue.

Bild are also reporting the same story with ESPN saying the fee will be somewhere in the 14-18m range.
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Post by RedOranje Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:55 pm

Honigstein had Papadopoulos having a medical at Liverpool back in June, so I wouldn't put too much faith in his tweets.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:56 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Benzema has the best CL record outside of Messi and CR over the last 5 years but some how Suarez with his 1 great season is better apparently...
Only the forum's most famous pool hater could brush off Suarez' 49 goal season as not great Proud
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:58 pm

Actually i can quite easily and so could many others.... its the dutch league where people like Jozy Altidore and Bas Dost are legendary.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:59 pm

Suarez didn't score 49.  He scored 30 with Liverpool all comps (23 in EPL, 4 in Europa, 2 in FA and 1 in CC).  Had 5 assists total.  That's not even as good as Benzema in 2011-2012 with 32 goals and 15 assists.... in less games, minutes and shots.

http://espnfc.com/player/_/id/125088/luis-su%C3%A1rez?cc=5739

EDIT:  You're talking about the dutch league Laughing good lawd BC
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Post by Gil Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:09 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Benzema has the best CL record outside of Messi and CR over the last 5 years but some how Suarez with his 1 great season is better apparently...
Only the forum's most famous pool hater could brush off Suarez' 49 goal season as not great Proud
Dutch League. Laughing

Graziano Pelle scored 25 goals in 22 app last season.
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Post by RedOranje Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:10 pm

This is the same Dutch league that has/had everyone salivating over Bony, let's not forget.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:13 pm

RedOranje wrote:This is the same Dutch league that has/had everyone salivating over Bony, let's not forget.
Well that is true, if we are to be fair then the same standards should be upheld to everyone.

I do think Bony will do well though.
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Post by RedOranje Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:56 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
RedOranje wrote:This is the same Dutch league that has/had everyone salivating over Bony, let's not forget.
Well that is true, if we are to be fair then the same standards should be upheld to everyone.

I do think Bony will do well though.
That's all I really ask.
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Post by Onyx Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:58 pm

Agger's agent Per Steffensen on Barca:

We are aware that Barcelona have made an offer for Daniel that Liverpool have rejected. Daniel has a contract with Liverpool for the next three years and it would be up to the clubs to agree a fee for his transfer in order for that to change.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:02 pm

Barca have been trying to sign a CB for the past two seasons... how has your scouting dept gone so bad?


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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:02 pm

I wouldn't matter if he scored 49 goals in the championship - it would still be a great individual season. The assumption that any forward of note could do it is laughable.

I also suppose winning the Copa America doesn't make a great season for Mole. But oh well.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:05 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Barca have been trying to sign a CB for the past two seasons... how is your scouting dept so bad?
Doubt its the scouts. I think Zubi simply rejects any notion of signing someone without the big name attached to it, or at least coming from another great side.

Dont think we would sign a Edmilson, a Guily, a Marquez or even a Yaya with him in charge.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:06 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I wouldn't matter if he scored 49 goals in the championship - it would still be a great individual season. The assumption that any forward of note could do it is laughable.

I also suppose winning the Copa America doesn't make a great season for Mole. But oh well.
Ok then..... first great season in a major league.

Happy?
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Post by The_Badger Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:09 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Actually i can quite easily and so could many others.... its the dutch league where people like Jozy Altidore and Bas Dost are legendary.
And Afonso Alves who scored 45 goals in 39 appearances in Eredivisie rofl

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:12 pm

Wants to stay in France they said Proud

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