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Post by B-Mac Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:10 pm

Vidic was sort of at fault for both goals today....poor header to carrick on the 2nd and just caught ball watching on the first

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Post by Busby Babe Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:14 pm

I don't think the first goal was Vidic's fault, he's not meant to be tracking Sidwell's run. Someone from midfield should have been
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Post by Busby Babe Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:15 pm

The only Man Utd players NOT to put in a cross today were David De Gea and Nemanja Vidic. 81 were made overall

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Post by RED Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:37 pm

This is not our club. SAF was the best thing that ever happened to United imo, but it looks like his decision to appoint Moyes has been his most catastrophic decision ever- for Utd.

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Post by Angoulême Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:59 pm

Rene Meulensteen: "United's approach was straightforward. Get it wide, get it in the box. It can be easy to defend against." 84 crosses , I know Moyes is a devout christian , but this is extracting the urine just a tad .. Fulham, who have an atrocious defensive record, decided that they could come to Old Trafford, let us have about 85 percent possession, sit in their box for ninety minutes, and not concede. They didn't even want the ball, they just kept giving it back to us. That was the tactical plan they devised after watching our tapes this season. And it nearly worked. That's how shit we are. The only variation we had to our play was when Fletcher crossed the ball in instead of Rafael.
Moyes just has to go .. and now ..  No 
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Post by Busby Babe Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:40 am

Our two best performances this season, have come from playing Kagawa behind the striker at Swansea and Leverkusen. The RVP and Rooney partnership is not working, they lack chemistry, and Moyes isn't helping.

Kagawa and Rooney instantly had chemistry in that last 10 mins against Sociedad, never seen RVP and Rooney play like that. Mata/Kagawa behind Rooney/RVP is a must now. They don't even pass to each other. Not including kick-off, they have a total of 4 passes to each other in 2 games.



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Post by RED Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:50 am

It's clear for all to see mate that Kagawa behind either RVP or especially Rooney makes us 10x more effective in attack. But sadly, Moyes hasn't got the balls to drop either RVP or Rooney to make that happen for the good of the team. And it's sadly Kagawa who has to play in a position he is uncomfortable with and suck it up. He performs one bad game due to it and then he is shunned for a month or so. It's ridiculous.

We flood our whole attack(including subs) with so many forwards getting in each others way while our out of form wingers cross aimless balls to them. Hit and hope.

Ridiculous tactics. Those pics above make me pmsl. Tells you everything you need to know about those 2 in the same team this season, but nothing will be done about it due to them being high profile players.

edit: Also now Mata will suffer due to it too. He is most effective behind a striker, but you see him v Fulham out wide hugging the touchline. The poor fella had to cut inside and drop deep to get involved, and when he got it, it was either cross or pass it out wide. Feel so sorry for him having to play like this. This type of football is competely alien to him.
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Post by Busby Babe Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:59 am

Yep, it's not even about the other two players being better than Kagawa or Mata, it's what fits the team. To Moyes more strikers= more goals, it doesn't work that way. That's how it looked like when he took off Jones for Welbeck and put Rooney in CM instead of bringing Fletcher on, against Stoke. He doesn't care for balance.
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Post by RED Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:45 am

Busby Babe wrote:Yep, it's not even about the other two players being better than Kagawa or Mata, it's what fits the team. To Moyes more strikers= more goals, it doesn't work that way. That's how it looked like when he took off Jones for Welbeck and put Rooney in CM instead of bringing Fletcher on, against Stoke. He doesn't care for balance.

It's clueless management. No balance, just a prayer that one of those strikers could bail him out. That sub at Stoke crippled us, and to make it worse, he had Fletcher on the bench.

He panics and floods the attack with Cheech, Welbeck...all getting in each others way, no cohesion, no understanding.

Clueless, and I bet you when we're trailing v Arsenal he will do the exact same thing.
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:49 pm

United XI: De Gea, Rafael, Smalling, Vidic, Evra; Valencia, Cleverley, Carrick, Mata; Rooney, van Persie

Subs: Lindegaard, Büttner, Ferdinand, Fellaini, Young, Hernandez, Januzaj.

Tony V is back Proud

That means Mata on the left, so he can cross it in better.

I hope we put a good performance out there, we need it
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Post by RED Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:09 pm

Would have really liked to see Januzaj play instead of Valencia. FFS Moyes, Just play the kid, he's miles better than Valencia. Adnan has had his rest, play the kid.
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:16 pm

I don't understand why we didn't sell Kagawa in January.

Poor treatment.
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Post by RED Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:25 pm

Not even on the bench. It's ridiculous the way Moyes has treated a player of his quality. I hope he leaves in the summer for his sake.
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:34 pm

^ Not the first player to get treated like that too. Him, Hernandez and Nani are goners in the summer

Anyway, I hope Arsenal go easy on us. It might get ugly today.

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Post by Busby Babe Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:41 pm

Funnily enough, Kagawa is actually a very good crosser.

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Post by B-Mac Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:44 pm

Usually I would be looking forward all week to this game...but I know we are going to play embarrassingly bad and probably lose, my excitement is very low now days
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Post by RED Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:14 pm

Arsenal are there for the taking, just a shame we're not cut throat enough to put them to the sword.

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Post by RED Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:16 pm

Such a scrappy crap match by 2 teams clearly low on confidence
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:34 pm

RVP should have scored, at the start of the match.

Both sides lack intensity.

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Post by RED Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:34 pm

very boring game so far. Has 0-0 written all over it. We could have a nicked a goal earlier which is frustrating. Mata has been class.

Other than that, it's been easy shutting them out, but nothing to crow about in terms of offensive play. It's been very flat.
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:51 pm

Cleverley was so free and Valencia didn't pass it to him. Presumably because he thinks Cleverley would have have wasted it

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Post by RED Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:00 pm

worse match ever
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:02 pm

Valencia just went past Gibbs. That must be a career low for Gibbs
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Post by Busby Babe Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:04 pm

Januzaj warming up
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Post by RED Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:17 pm

instead of taking off Valencia for Adnan, he takes off Mata. Go fck yourself Moyes you negative coward
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Post by B-Mac Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:19 pm

you knew it was coming ffs, can't take off precious cross merchant lol Valencia the untouchable for Moyes rofl

it's funny to because Januzaj and Mata both better crossers of the ball then Valencia
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