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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:20 am

Surag wrote:
Cesar
Sagna-Koscielny-Mertesacker-Gibbs
Wilshere-Fellaini/Bender
Walcott-Rooney-Podolski
Higuain

Title winning team ?

Podolski won't play it will be Cazorla on the left with Gibbs providing width.

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Post by REWB Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:22 pm

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Surag wrote:
Cesar
Sagna-Koscielny-Mertesacker-Gibbs
Wilshere-Fellaini/Bender
Walcott-Rooney-Podolski
Higuain

Title winning team ?

Higuain is a great signing for Arsenal.
If they signed those other guys, they would surely be challengers. Although they still would need one or two great wingers (I wonder why they don't go for Nani) because Walcott and Podolski are not awesome. Also, I think Capoue or Wanyama >>> Fellaini or Bender.

have you seen bender play regularly? he good or overhyped?
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Post by REWB Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:32 pm

ynwa wrote:
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jibers wrote:I expect Arsenal to finish 4th again. RVP was there they finshed 3rd. Higuain isn't better lol. Arsenal's problems are defensive. Not worth 20 mill ffs.

our defense was better then your last season, our problem last season was scoring goals when needed

It was not. Stop looking at stats ffs. Your defence was in strife from October - January.

United had arguably the best defence last season. The only people that come close would have been City. United conceded around 8-9 goals after they had already wrapped up the league meaning they weren't playing as serious as they needed too. People then look at the "conceded" stats and then state United had the 5th best defence which isn't true at all.

united defense was bad throughout the WHOLE of their title challenge season, at the start of the season there were huge worries about their defense, they were conceded lots of goals but out scoring teams with rvp. in fact their defense actually started to improve in the later stages of the season, ynwa you dont remember last season well at all.
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Post by Adit Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Arsenals defensive stats are misleading..they were alot more counter attacking team last year..they are not the passing team any more.

btw Podolski and Giroud had a good season for a 4th place finish teams ambition but definitely if they play like that for a title chasing team definitely will get tagged as not good enough.

27 mill euros is a good deal for every one.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:14 pm

Surag wrote:
Cesar
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Wilshere-Fellaini/Bender
Walcott-Rooney-Podolski
Higuain

Title winning team ?
Anyone is better than Fellaini/Bender
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:16 pm

Thank you for jinxing it Sad

If it happens, a very good signing - just what we needed.

Still 3-4 signings needed yet.
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Post by S Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:34 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Surag wrote:
Cesar
Sagna-Koscielny-Mertesacker-Gibbs
Wilshere-Fellaini/Bender
Walcott-Rooney-Podolski
Higuain

Title winning team ?

Podolski won't play it will be Cazorla on the left with Gibbs providing width.

Totally forgot about Cazorla.

Podoloski will definitely go to the bench then.
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Post by farfan Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:11 pm

27 million for higflop ? bounce 
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:20 pm

Walcott ineffective in buildup , scoring/assists? Wtf are you guys on?

If Wendey gets himself a proper DM, I would love for him to go back to our 4-4-1-1 days Proud 
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:33 pm

ynwa wrote:
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jibers wrote:I expect Arsenal to finish 4th again. RVP was there they finshed 3rd. Higuain isn't better lol. Arsenal's problems are defensive. Not worth 20 mill ffs.

our defense was better then your last season, our problem last season was scoring goals when needed

It was not. Stop looking at stats ffs. Your defence was in strife from October - January.

United had arguably the best defence last season. The only people that come close would have been City. United conceded around 8-9 goals after they had already wrapped up the league meaning they weren't playing as serious as they needed too. People then look at the "conceded" stats and then state United had the 5th best defence which isn't true at all.

United had horrible defence last year lol. Are you forgetting how RVP won them matches after matches after being 2 goals down to Fulham, Southampton, along with conceding 3 at home against Tottenham, 2 against stoke, 3 against reading, 2 against West ham. It was worse than ours.

We did have a poor defence when we played Vermaelen and Santos. Whenever we fielded our best defence, we did quite well. Like conceding 2 goals in 10 games.
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:49 pm

Surag wrote:
Cesar
Sagna-Koscielny-Mertesacker-Gibbs
Wilshere-Fellaini/Bender
Walcott-Rooney-Podolski
Higuain

Title winning team ?

Think this will be our final team



---------------------------Cesar-----------------------------------
Sagna-----------Koscielny-----------Mertesacker-------------Gibbs
-----------------------------Arteta--------------------------------
----------------Wilshere---------------Ramsey---------------------
Walcott-------------------------------------------Cazorla----------
-----------------------------Higuain--------------------------------

We are looking for a midfielder, but it might be someone for the future and not the next season.
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Post by djfawnz Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:00 pm

u guys are crazy if u think Rooney would go to Arsenal......
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:22 pm

Prior to this month, I was sure we were not going to offer amounts over 15 mil to any player out there.

In between that time we have bid 20 something mil for Bender
And now, seemingly another 23 mil for Higuain.

It would be amazing if we somehow managed to get one of Rooney, of Fabregas to Arsenal. We can genuinely afford the wages for these players (something that would have been impossible in the previous years)

Oh well, here is to hoping we land Rooney or Fab lol
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Post by LeBéninois Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:07 pm

Arsenalfaithfull wrote:Prior to this month, I was sure we were not going to   offer amounts over 15 mil to any player out there.

In between that time we have bid 20 something mil for Bender
And now, seemingly another 23 mil for Higuain.

It would be amazing if we somehow managed to get one of Rooney, of Fabregas to Arsenal. We can genuinely afford the wages for these players (something that would have been impossible in the previous years)

Oh well, here is to hoping we land Rooney  or Fab lol

Rooney ?!! No F**ing way !!

We could get Fab only if we bid 25 millions at least
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:16 pm

For all the people mentioning defence.....

Defence was only a problem when Vermealen was in the back 4 running around like a rabbit on speed....

Just look at their defensive record once Vermealen was dropped, they conceded 3 goals from open play in final 3 months iirc Laughing

Their problem was taking chances and creating them in big games.... their goal record was very misleading because they would usually pad up by beating teams 5-0 now and again.

But they would struggle to break teams down quite a lot.

Higuain solves half that problem, now they need their creative sources fit or sign someone and of course replace Diaby as he will never be reliable.

The defence is fine.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:37 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:For all the people mentioning defence.....

Defence was only a problem when Vermealen was in the back 4 running around like a rabbit on speed....

Just look at their defensive record once Vermealen was dropped, they conceded 3 goals from open play in final 3 months iirc Laughing

Their problem was taking chances and creating them in big games.... their goal record was very misleading because they would usually pad up by beating teams 5-0 now and again.

But they would struggle to break teams down quite a lot.

Higuain solves half that problem, now they need their creative sources fit or sign someone and of course replace Diaby as he will never be reliable.

The defence is fine.

+1 top quality post by our great cruyffian leader. I agree with what Mole said.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:47 pm

Mole... they padded their stats in one Newcastle game i recall tongue 
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:51 pm

sportsczy wrote:Mole... they padded their stats in one Newcastle game i recall tongue 

Wasn't the only one tbf Laughing but yeah we fell apart in that last 20 mins Sad

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Post by Error Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:39 pm

If this move really happens then it's time for me to start supporting and watching Arsenal again after around 10 year hiatus.
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Post by paddy Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:22 am

Error wrote:If this move really happens then it's time for me to start supporting and watching Arsenal again after around 10 year hiatus.

^^^^^^^^^

Decent signing though. Maybe a bit overpriced and although I don't rate him that highly as a player, he's exactly what Arsenal have needed for years - a finisher. He'll do well with Cazorla & Wilshere looking after him

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Post by TalkingReckless Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:51 am

paddy wrote:
Error wrote:If this move really happens then it's time for me to start supporting and watching Arsenal again after around 10 year hiatus.

^^^^^^^^^

Decent signing though. Maybe a bit overpriced and although I don't rate him that highly as a player, he's exactly what Arsenal have needed for years - a finisher. He'll do well with Cazorla & Wilshere looking after him

year not years.... we had a finisher 2 years ago
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Post by paddy Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:31 am

Butt wrote:
paddy wrote:
Error wrote:If this move really happens then it's time for me to start supporting and watching Arsenal again after around 10 year hiatus.

^^^^^^^^^

Decent signing though. Maybe a bit overpriced and although I don't rate him that highly as a player, he's exactly what Arsenal have needed for years - a finisher. He'll do well with Cazorla & Wilshere looking after him

year not years.... we had a finisher 2 years ago

League titles were thrown away with Adebayor, Bendtner's etc fluffing of easy chances. After the 2010 World Cup Van Persie really stepped it up but there were three seasons post Henry where Arsenal were regularly throwing away points because they lacked a clinical finisher

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Post by Red Alert Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:01 am

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ynwa wrote:
Butt wrote:

our defense was better then your last season, our problem last season was scoring goals when needed

It was not. Stop looking at stats ffs. Your defence was in strife from October - January.

United had arguably the best defence last season. The only people that come close would have been City. United conceded around 8-9 goals after they had already wrapped up the league meaning they weren't playing as serious as they needed too. People then look at the "conceded" stats and then state United had the 5th best defence which isn't true at all.

United had horrible defence last year lol. Are you forgetting how RVP won them matches after matches after being 2 goals down to Fulham, Southampton, along with conceding 3 at home against Tottenham, 2 against stoke, 3 against reading, 2 against West ham. It was worse than ours.

We did have a poor defence when we played Vermaelen and Santos. Whenever we fielded our best defence, we did quite well. Like conceding 2 goals in 10 games.

How much of those were conceded against De Gea? Lindegaard is a scrub. He conceded at least 7 goals in 2 games......
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